[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Community Forum Proposal: Packaging,

2006-02-16 Thread TJ Yang
TJ Yang wrote: What is Package Management means to you then ? The building, signing, installation, and removal of the bundles that deliver stuff used for distributing software. That certainly isn't limited to Applications, in fact the vast majority of the packages I deal with don't

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Community Forum Proposal: Packaging, Patching,

2006-02-15 Thread TJ Yang
TJ Yang wrote: * Dave Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-01 13:15]: Just to elaborate a little on the proposal, this community would be the home for the SVR4 packaging tools code when it's released in the near future, as well as other packaging and installation projects

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Community Forum Proposal: Packaging, Patching,

2006-02-15 Thread TJ Yang
sni Oh, I am only proposing to replace Packaging term with Package Management or Application management. you can leave the rest to cover shillix and nexenta. How about this ? Current name: Packaging, Patching, and Distribution Mgmt Community Proposed name: Application mgnt and

[osol-discuss] Re: Community Forum Proposal: Packaging, Patching,

2006-02-14 Thread TJ Yang
* Dave Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-01 13:15]: Just to elaborate a little on the proposal, this community would be the home for the SVR4 packaging tools code when it's released in the near future, as well as other packaging and installation projects. Is this then the

[osol-discuss] Re: Distributions and package managment forum request

2006-02-01 Thread TJ Yang
+1 on reply counter. tj yang This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Studio 11

2005-10-27 Thread TJ Yang
Hi Sean, Stay tuned...we're planning a release within the next month+! There is a special twist on tap with Sun Studio 11 that we believe the general development community will appreciate- but I will not divulge just yet. (how is that for a teaser? :-) Have folks tried using Sun

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the

2005-10-23 Thread TJ Yang
and free-time resources. I WISH we have one OpenSolaris LIVE CD, one embeded OpenSolaris, one OpenSolaris Sparc and one OpenSoarlis i386/AMD64, that is it. tj yang This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris

[osol-discuss] Re: Roadmap needs check marks showing progress + hyperlinks with details

2005-10-22 Thread TJ Yang
driving. 2.7 send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want join our user group. 2.8 OS-GLUG is our user group name, I like the acronym. Regards tj yang Thanks, Dave Braun, MultiTask ComputerWorks This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris

[osol-discuss] Re: Roadmap needs check marks showing progress + hyperlinks with details

2005-10-21 Thread TJ Yang
I second this idea. so I won't be asking question like what is installer work on your roadmap ?'. Dave were at harper college last night's for opensolaris user meeting ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

[osol-discuss] Re: Roadmap needs check marks showing progress + hyperlinks with details

2005-10-21 Thread TJ Yang
Dave were at harper college last night's for opensolaris user meeting ? Dave, were you at harper college last night for opensoalris user meeting ? This is a much better Engilsh sentence. tj yang This message posted from opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Roadmap needs check marks showing progress

2005-10-21 Thread TJ Yang
TJ, Dave, were you at harper college last night for opensoalris user meeting ? This is a much better Engilsh sentence. True, but you still need a little work on opensoalris though ;-) Agree, Thanks for the catch. I am hopeless on mastering English and accurate typing. so bear

[osol-discuss] Re: Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread TJ Yang
From your slides, I learn wiki will be supported in the future, please pick one that support command line editing also. Thanks. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Updated: Get the latest Sun Studio Tools for OpenSolaris!

2005-09-25 Thread TJ Yang
kso I am disappointed that bach_installer is still not in this version of distribution. (studio10-20050912-sol-x86.tar.bz2) bash-3.00# ls -lrt total 110 -rwxr-xr-x 1 59001staff 16684 Jan 28 2005 installer -rwxr-xr-x 1 59001staff 16650 Jan 28 2005 batch_installer_perflib

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris Source Study Blog

2005-09-24 Thread TJ Yang
I am attaching a purchase order. The basic system (with tax, shipping, accessories, etc.) comes out to be about $1,300. snip I failed to see this P.O. information about hard disk or HD case. So this is PO is for a diskless installation ? tj This message posted from opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Forum and email out of sync on OpenSolaris forum system ?

2005-09-24 Thread TJ Yang
TJ Yang wrote: This is not the first time that happen to me. When I got the email notice like following and I click the url to see the update on the discussion thread. But I don't see the actual message in the Forum thread. Does others has same experience or just me ? TJ, I

[osol-discuss] Re: Can Sun release SVR4 PMS binaries ?

2005-09-23 Thread TJ Yang
* T.J. Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050919 18:49]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also Schillix LiveCD project won't need to develop yet another PMS, SPS. We actualy do not try to implement a PMS. We implement a build system mostly, which could be used together whith SVR4 PMS. But right now we

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris

2005-09-23 Thread TJ Yang
Hi, Are OpenSolaris and Solaris 10 the same? regards Krish I think your answer is at Terminology section of this url http://opensolaris.org/os/community/tools/building_opensolaris/ and the better question is Are OpenSolaris and Solaris 11 the same ? Regards tj This message posted

[osol-discuss] Re: Forum and email out of sync on OpenSolaris forum system ?

2005-09-23 Thread TJ Yang
This is really wierd. or I am doing somthing goof. here is the reply/notification I got from you in my hotmail.com but by the time of of this writing, why I can't see your reply on the Forum thread ? 1. Notification email from the Forum of Dicussion.  TJ Yang, You are watching the thread

[osol-discuss] Re: Forum and email out of sync on OpenSolaris forum system ?

2005-09-23 Thread TJ Yang
ok, this one doesn't count, you reply show up in the end. but how about this one. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=2475tstart=0 Rich Teer followed up on my posting this mornig, I got two emails like above example but I still don't see his posting on Forum thread.

[osol-discuss] Re: Forum and email out of sync on OpenSolaris forum system ?

2005-09-23 Thread TJ Yang
. Unfortunately I deleted both email regarding Rich' reply. 1. Acutally, I didn't delete Rich' email here is his email reply. From : Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent : Friday, September 23, 2005 10:32 AM To :TJ Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC :opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris Source Study Blog

2005-09-20 Thread TJ Yang
One of our local Linux shops (“lemonade stands” is probably a better description) that we are helping (on a pro bono basis) decides to purchase an x2100 system to run their Novell i-Folder business. Those kids always exhaust their searches before spending a single penny. In the past,

[osol-discuss] Re: Can Sun release SVR4 PMS binaries ?

2005-09-17 Thread TJ Yang
a part of Solaris Express... so you can use those binaries if you want.. cheers, steve TJ Yang wrote: I don't exactly know what are the missing pieces to make up a full OpenSolaris yet, but the missing of SVR4 package mangement system is certainly a show stopper

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: OpenSolaris Source Study Blog

2005-09-12 Thread TJ Yang
TJ Yang wrote: from here http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunS torecmdViewProduct_CPcatid=138714 $745 has no soalris 10 preinstalled that I can understand but no hard disk !? So it can be used as a compute node. There are plenty of uses for nodes that don't

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: OpenSolaris Source Study Blog

2005-09-12 Thread TJ Yang
TJ Yang wrote: from here http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunS torecmdViewProduct_CPcatid=138714 $745 has no soalris 10 preinstalled that I can understand but no hard disk !? So it can be used as a compute node. There are plenty of uses

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: OpenSolaris Source Study Blog

2005-09-12 Thread TJ Yang
TJ Yang wrote: Sorry for not reading into the detail. the $550 from small to medium buy followings 1. faster cpu (model 148). 2. extra 512 MRAM 3. one 80G SATA disk 4. Java Enterprise System Pre-Installed 5. Solaris 10 Pre-Installed I think everyone who has built computers for him

[osol-discuss] Re: Program technical status and directions, 9 September 2005

2005-09-11 Thread TJ Yang
Feedback welcome. I'll read it all, but I can't n't promise replies to all. Another comment, Any plan to make sure opensolaris can be compiled in Sun Grid Engine to improve the build time ? Reference: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=1900tstart=0 T.J. Yang

[osol-discuss] Re: [Fwd: [osol-mktg] ALL of the 1st 5000 t-shirts have shipped]

2005-09-08 Thread TJ Yang
That's great news, Sara. Thanks for all your persistent work with the fulfillment company to make those shirts *finally* fly the coop! I hope that everyone wears them in good health. :-) Claire For the two shirts I got, I think I have to thank Sara twice ;) tj This message posted

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris Source Study Blog

2005-09-08 Thread TJ Yang
div id=jive-html-wrapper-div I agree completely. A wiki is the next logical step. I would be happy to help create and edit one. Can Sun host the beast?brbrdivspan class=gmail_quoteOn 9/7/05, b class=gmail_sendernameGavin Maltby/b How about this one

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-20 Thread TJ Yang
Steve I like to invite you take a look at TWW's opensource package offering. I believe it is a superset of Solaris Companion packages and it is GNU opensourced. ftp://support.thewrittenword.com/dists/7.1/src/ All of your three conerns has been addressed by TWW's Hyper Package Management

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement

2005-08-08 Thread TJ Yang
Hi, TJ Yang wrote: I read albertw's blog but I failed to understand how to use Solaris' patch management system to be a modern PMS for OpenSoalris. I would advocate the use of patches for updating packages. But I would be very interested in seeing the things that people

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement

2005-08-08 Thread TJ Yang
snip I just want to chime in here to let people know that I have been watching and reading with considerable interest. I think that a few steps need to be taken with Blastwave and after some thought I am going to make a few changes. As soon as I have something concrete to talk about I

[osol-discuss] Re: Binary model taxonomies: Re: Can we start

2005-08-08 Thread TJ Yang
snip This is actually one of the big reasons the X.Org open source community is moving from a model of building the entire X Window System as one big source tree to a modular model, where each library, program, and driver module is individually built, to make it easier to catch API ABI

[osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-06 Thread TJ Yang
snip TJ, The project goal states ... provide OpenSolaris OS a modern package age management system. It seems to assume that Sun will definitely never open-source its new (and evolving) package update system, Sun Update Connection (which is based on Sun's patch tools and

[osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-06 Thread TJ Yang
snip Albert White wrote a nice overview of Sun Update Connection technologies (in an OpenSolaris context) on his blog. See: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/albertw?entry=updaing _software_in_the_open I will read it later. I read albertw's blog but I failed to understand

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-05 Thread TJ Yang
This post from me contains English grammtical and typing errors.I trust the reader will be able to understand my point. I will be more careful and diligent to produce English sentences next time. tj This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

[osol-discuss] Re: Can we start OpenSolaris PMS enhancement project ?

2005-08-05 Thread TJ Yang
To the OpenSolaris.org webmasters, Is there no Wiki on the opensolaris.org site that we could use for this - my only issue with something so core being discussed off-site is that it's likely to get lost... Hmm I pick mediawiki site even I am moinmoin user becuase mediawiki is most

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
Eric Boutilier writes: snip * deb * pkgsrc (implemented by pkgsrc system) * portage * rpm (implemented by the openpkg system) * solaris packaging (implemented by Sun, Blastwave, and Sunfreeware) * tww (implemented by tww system) Hi Eric If you don't mind, I like

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
`pkg-get` is not an LPMS as you'd call it, it's a script that adds `apt-get` like functionality and uses Sun's native SVR4 software management subsystem. If this is the case then pkg-get is a Hyper PMS only support Solaris OS. Sorry, I did not research pkg-get's architecture. tj This message

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris distributions and package managment

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
I thought we are still in hope that the SVr4 pkg system will become OpenSource soon. Lets start working on solutions anyway. Just in case you run out of breath while you hold it while waiting for Sun to release. Why rely on kindness on the long term when a solution on the short term is

[osol-discuss] Re: Packaging and Building applications, standards for OpenSolaris

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
Hi all, At the moment I'm looking for a Sun-way of building Solaris packages (Like SUNW), with a proper build environment, but unfortunately there are too many ways. I already have my own customized environment, Sun-way is SVR4 pkgadd PMS, period. I don't work for Sun and I like to be

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Packaging and Building applications,

2005-08-03 Thread TJ Yang
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Magnus Forsberg wrote: [ ... ] I see there is already a disussion about this in: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=9 53tstart=0 The most interesting part is to have a standard build system, not just a package system... I agree -- mostly

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-29 Thread TJ Yang
This is the problem of opensource work, it only get hobby level of priority. for most ppl, work,family and lastly hobby come last. That's why I feel it is important to physically start a user community in a Chinese university. Sort of like killing two birds in one stone. I think the

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-28 Thread TJ Yang
Tian Siyuan wrote: The original poster is back. My idea is to have a place for Chinese users, mainly for education (and then marketing). If we other communities are better suitable for specific topics posted to this one, we can redirect them. What's the next step? There's

[osol-discuss] Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-24 Thread TJ Yang
Looks like this thread went digressed. Will there be forum for Chinese users ? Also if there is a need to create discussion forum for Chinese users then please create two forums. One is Simplify Chinese and one is Tranditional Chinese. T.J. Yang This message posted from opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: [blastware-discuss] Can Solaris/OpenSolaris dowhat Linux has failed to do?

2005-07-15 Thread TJ Yang
Joerg, Given you are author of SPS PMS, Do you have time to evaluate TWW HPMS ? And provide your comments ? Here is an example software build source for apache. ftp://support.thewrittenword.com/dists/7.0/src/apache-2.0.52/sb-db.xml anyone with sb tool installed can run sb sb-db.xml to get

[osol-discuss] sb for Improved workflow tools updated to reflect evolved dev. process

2005-07-13 Thread TJ Yang
Hi all In http://opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/, Tool section, Improved workflow tools updated to reflect evolved dev. processes is listed as 9-12 month target date. I don't know the detail goal of this task but following is my suggestion that can streamline opensolaris developement

[osol-discuss] Re: KDE 3.4.1 Solaris 10: Source Code Patches

2005-07-13 Thread TJ Yang
Stefan Teleman wrote: There is a directory, /opt/fsw4sun/ referenced as well, I'm guessing its freeware stuff built with studio 10. yes this is the big bundle of KDE depencies (also built with SunStudio10) which i am hoping to get rid of and share all the dependencies with the