Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-06 Thread Glen Wiley
It sounds as though Sun is heading in the right direction. I am most interested in how we can take advantage of Open Solaris for production systems that serve very narrow, but very high visibility functions and that must meet strict service levels. These sort of systems are typically designed

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-06 Thread glen wiley
Bart, Thanks - that sounds perfect. Do I understand then that Sun would offer a structured (whatever that means) support mechanism for specific stops on the release train? On 8/2/07, Bart Smaalders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glen Wiley wrote: Bart, You or Tim had mentioned the idea of

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-02 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/2/07, Glen Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bart, You or Tim had mentioned the idea of being able to support checkpoints of some kind which would let more rigid environments take advantage of some of the more useful features with reduced risk. Do you see motion in that direction?

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-02 Thread Glen Wiley
Bart, You or Tim had mentioned the idea of being able to support checkpoints of some kind which would let more rigid environments take advantage of some of the more useful features with reduced risk. Do you see motion in that direction? This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-02 Thread Bart Smaalders
Glen Wiley wrote: Bart, You or Tim had mentioned the idea of being able to support checkpoints of some kind which would let more rigid environments take advantage of some of the more useful features with reduced risk. Do you see motion in that direction? With the new packaging/software

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-02 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Bart Smaalders wrote: With the new packaging/software repository, we'll be able to update the software on a machine by downloading the difference between where the target machine and the desired end state. Using ZFS root, this will be completely reversible. Once the new

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-02 Thread Bart Smaalders
glen wiley wrote: Bart, Thanks - that sounds perfect. Do I understand then that Sun would offer a structured (whatever that means) support mechanism for specific stops on the release train? I would expect Sun to do that. What actually ends up happening is of course to be seen :-).

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-02 Thread Bart Smaalders
Alan DuBoff wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Bart Smaalders wrote: With the new packaging/software repository, we'll be able to update the software on a machine by downloading the difference between where the target machine and the desired end state. Using ZFS root, this will be completely

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-02 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Bart Smaalders wrote: The likely outcome is that the change is file based, with file equivalence determined by a file-type specific comparison/hash. This allows us to handle cases where the file is alway different, but semantically the same. Jar archives are a typical

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-02 Thread Bart Smaalders
Alan DuBoff wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Bart Smaalders wrote: The likely outcome is that the change is file based, with file equivalence determined by a file-type specific comparison/hash. This allows us to handle cases where the file is alway different, but semantically the same. Jar

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
I think it'd be more difficult than that. OpenSolaris is effectively alpha quality (not even beta!) code, with new and modified features being introduced every now and then (on disk zfs format has changed twice!). Ofcourse, the quality of this allegedly alpha quality code beats some other

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Ché Kristo
If they did I would start selling shares... Why would you offer support contracts on your alpha and beta products? That you have asked this question perplexes me. Microsoft don't go around supporting Release candidates, IBM doesn't offer contracts on the open AIX beta releases and neither does

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Bart Smaalders
Ian Collins wrote: Brian Gupta wrote: It would make it easier for some of us to deploy OpenSolaris. How can Sun support something that changes every couple of weeks and doesn't support patching? I suppose they could provide a help line with a recorded message please upgrade the the latest

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Ché Kristo
I recall that there is a degree of developer support around SXDE which is around developer tools as distinct from production support. maybe even that they were offering a certain amount for free... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-08-01 Thread Ché Kristo
I recall that there is a degree of developer support around SXDE which is around developer tools as distinct from production support. maybe even that they were offering a certain amount for free... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

[osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-07-31 Thread Brian Gupta
It would make it easier for some of us to deploy OpenSolaris. -Brian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-07-31 Thread Ian Collins
Brian Gupta wrote: It would make it easier for some of us to deploy OpenSolaris. How can Sun support something that changes every couple of weeks and doesn't support patching? I suppose they could provide a help line with a recorded message please upgrade the the latest release :) Ian

Re: [osol-discuss] So... when is Sun going to start offering SXCE/SXDE support contracts?

2007-07-31 Thread Brian Gupta
On 8/1/07, Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Gupta wrote: It would make it easier for some of us to deploy OpenSolaris. How can Sun support something that changes every couple of weeks and doesn't support patching? I suppose they could provide a help line with a recorded message