simple is unix approach to use. But, you can still make a nice GUI wrapper
around all such so called simple things (I don't accept, lot of commands with
even more lots of options is far more complex to majority of present windows
user population including devs). keep it user friendly stupid
man pages are documentation about system for users, admins and developers. Just
because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it's bad.
If some user has brain he don't need to go through it. He can use right click
in GUI as in Windows. And name home is very clean description of for what
Again and again. You don't read anything about ZFS.
1) You can't have full home partition if you have some free space on disk
because ZFS will use free space for your file in home. Of course you can set
quotas so user can use say 20GB of space and so on
2) Same situation. Until you have some
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid , that's why Unix-world use a lot of text.
Because people can read text no some binary data stuff ;-) And yes, you can
build nice GUI on text base as you can see in MacOs or OpenSolaris or Ubuntu.
OS = Operating system
system mean most of the times some complex
You can have full power of Unix in GUI if you know what do. You don't know so
you must use what someone prepared for you. If it's not what you are looking
for then you can use your old solution or try another. It's a freedom.
Just because you don't understand power of CLI doesn't mean that it's
Just because you were visiting some school doesn't mean that you have
appropriate knowledge.
Restricting user to home directory is not too much restrictive. Normal user
don't need anything outside of his/her home directory. If he/she use some apps
which need something like that then developer
http://www.opensolaris.org
http://docs.sun.com
And you think that we are somewhat bad on you, but it's not true. A lot of
people are giving help to you, but it looks like you don't want to listen and
understand.
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Tomas Bodzar wrote:
Just because you were visiting some school doesn't mean that you have
appropriate knowledge.
To whom or to what are you replying?
Context, please.
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Make OS for newbies and only newbies will want to use it.
If 80% or 90% of users use something doesn't mean that it's good for me too.
You are trying to tweak something to Windows way. Maybe by accident only, but
still. A lot of friends around me have Ubuntu, either parents,
It's reply on this :
I know basic unix things like file permissions and file system navigation. I
gone thru basic unix and shell dumb theories / commands in my computer science
graduation course. Since 1997, I have been using windows and installing and
reinstalling windows and several user
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 23:11 -0700, sridhar wrote:
Assuming that there are other partitions with empty space. Only the partition
with os and home dir is full. Assume that all apps are installed in this same
partition. Then tell what open solaris will do in the following two cases:
1. If I
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 12:05 -0400, Paul Gress wrote:
sridhar wrote:
In short, I want the full power of unix and all it's commands in the GUI
form. Oh, GOD, when I will use that kind of unix. I think it will be a
dream as long as there are incorrigible fans of CUI commands in user
Assuming that there are other partitions with empty space. Only the partition
with os and home dir is full. Assume that all apps are installed in this same
partition. Then tell what open solaris will do in the following two cases:
1. If I added another file in my home dir.
2. If I installed
thank you for the 2nd url. first url I already know. But, that first url is not
helping much. I will from now on try using 2nd url. Where / how did you find
this url? They did not give it on learn page or any other page of
opensolaris.com
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I know basic unix things like file permissions and file system navigation. I
gone thru basic unix and shell dumb theories / commands in my computer science
graduation course. Since 1997, I have been using windows and installing and
reinstalling windows and several user related applications. I
Please tell me any GUI ways rather than using these commands of CUI.
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come out of commands man. This is not 70s or 80s. Even for such a simple thing
like creating directory, don't make a user go thru this. I am the owner of the
sys. I know what I do even if I create/modify/delete a dir/file. I don't
intentionally do anything to sys related dirs/files. What I
Are you in root home version/sxce or export/home opensolaris.version_something
??
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On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 04:38 -0700, sridhar wrote:
in my computer science graduation course. Since 1997, I have been
using windows and installing and reinstalling windows and several user
related applications. I created, modified and deleted several
That might be part of your problem. Unix
imagine a situation where several GBs of data(docs,pdfs,songs, videos) exist in
home directory because of all the data created and/or downloaded (using
internet obviously). All the apps that I installed using package manager also
exist in the same partition as home directory. Home dir also
ease of installation and ease of use of operating systems and user applications
changed the way things are done. Ease of installation and ease of use are
utmost importance. Keep the commands in the background and do all kinds of
intellectual ramifications/gymnastics using those commands only in
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 04:54 -0700, sridhar wrote:
come out of commands man.
Please don't be patronizing and insulting. That won't do anything to
aid your point.
This is not 70s or 80s. Even for such a simple thing like creating
directory, don't make a user go thru this. I am the owner of
In short, I want the full power of unix and all it's commands in the GUI form.
Oh, GOD, when I will use that kind of unix. I think it will be a dream as long
as there are incorrigible fans of CUI commands in user population.
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I am neither patronizing nor insulting. I am just bit more involved in these
matters than other users. I am sorry if anybody feels that way. Whatever i have
done is just to make it understand.
But, I still can not get your points. I don't do anything with system
directories and application
imagine a situation where several GBs of
data(docs,pdfs,songs, videos) exist in home directory
because of all the data created and/or downloaded
(using internet obviously). All the apps that I
installed using package manager also exist in the
same partition as home directory. Home dir also
many of my thread readers may believe that i want features in the windows way.
But, the thing is that what the majority(close to 80 to 90%) of most computer
users (non-system and non-app dev population) want is found in the windows and
mac. we can other way say that most users find windows and
sridhar wrote:
In short, I want the full power of unix and all it's commands in the GUI form.
Oh, GOD, when I will use that kind of unix. I think it will be a dream as long
as there are incorrigible fans of CUI commands in user population.
Simply put, for file management gui with root
Solaris, Mac OS, and Windows all are multiuser and offer filesystem permissions
which is what you seem to have a problem with. Windows and Mac OS error on the
side of being to permissive, and you'll be hard pressed to convince anyone here
that Solaris should follow that path. I would argue
I am unable to create a directory/ file anywhere in the file system
except my home directory. How can I enable my user account to
create a directory / file anywhere in the file system (other than
system related directories)? I am new user(non-unix) trying os.
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Hi,
You need the right permissions using the pfexec command, at the terminal
type:
man pfexec
this will explain the pfexec command
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 17:38, sridhar devatha.srid...@gmail.com wrote:
I am unable to create a directory/ file anywhere in the file system
except my home
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/documentation/
http://wikis.sun.com/display/OpenSolarisInfo200906/Home
man man
As a user you don't need anything then your home directory. And until you learn
some about Unix and read some of links above don't touch anything outside of
your home or you will
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