Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-10 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On 5/9/06, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 08 May 2006 11:15 pm, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:> I completely agree; this has been the best move SUN has done in its 20 or> so odd years of existence, it almost makes up for all the complete> whipe-outs past failed take overs have been (Cobal

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-08 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Sunday 07 May 2006 08:14 pm, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > Good question, no body knows; wasn't it almost a year ago, we heard a big > wig at SUN exclaim that IBM should work with SUN to port Solaris to POWER? > then was much chest beating about porting OpenSolaris to PowerPC. No, once again it seem

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-07 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 8 May 2006, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > The underlying issue is this; imagine if Solaris was ported to POWER - throw > the 'hardware support' out the window for a moment - who on earth would then There is currently a project to port OpenSOlaris to the PPC. I'm not sure how far they've got

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-07 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
> So my question is: > > Is Sun still interested in a OpenSolaris PPC port? Good question, no body knows; wasn't it almost a year ago, we heard a big wig at SUN exclaim that IBM should work with SUN to port Solaris to POWER? then was much chest beating about porting OpenSolaris to PowerPC.

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Joerg, Sun is still interested. Tom Riddle and his direct report, > Roger Meike, are very interested in moving this ahead and so is It seemed that Roger Meike was interested intil CeBIT. Since then, we did not her from him even tho

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-07 Thread Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck
Hi Joerg, Sun is still interested. Tom Riddle and his direct report, Roger Meike, are very interested in moving this ahead and so is Genesi. We are all waiting for the first code. We know Tom and a small but active and dedicated Sun Labs team have been working on this for months. Sven L

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I am not sure wht you like to achieve here... > > > > > > I'm trying to advocate expanding the meaning of "appliances", > with respect to OpenSolaris, so that as a community or forum > it has a better chance of matching up with more projects. If we like

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-03 Thread Casper . Dik
>I'm trying to advocate expanding the meaning of "appliances", >with respect to OpenSolaris, so that as a community or forum >it has a better chance of matching up with more projects. The archive may reflect a first interest mainly in home build server appliances; but we have not yet gotten to t

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-02 Thread Bart Smaalders
Darren Reed wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (General discussions of cross-compilation is suitable for either of opensolaris-code or tools-discuss; potential platforms probably should start talking here; there are communities and projects associated with

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-02 Thread Mike Ditto
Darren Reed wrote: I'm trying to advocate expanding the meaning of "appliances", with respect to OpenSolaris, so that as a community or forum it has a better chance of matching up with more projects. I think I'm with Darren in that my (perhaps mistaken) impression of the charter of the Applianc

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-02 Thread Darren Reed
Joerg Schilling wrote: Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (General discussions of cross-compilation is suitable for either of opensolaris-code or tools-discuss; potential platforms probably should start talking here; there are communities and projects associated with installation and pa

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-02 Thread Darren Reed
Joerg Schilling wrote: Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It occurred to me today that there is overlap but it isn't perhaps a complete overlap as one might tend to believe. The embedded community isn't just "appliances". It is also many other things - for examples, cars. Wouldn't it be

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-02 Thread Darren J Moffat
Joerg Schilling wrote: Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It occurred to me today that there is overlap but it isn't perhaps a complete overlap as one might tend to believe. The embedded community isn't just "appliances". It is also many other things - for examples, cars. Wouldn't it be c

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right. Some cars can have as many as 5 or more seperate computers. Depends on what you understand by "computers". A big mercedes has more than 30 "computers" only inside the cabin (not countiong the dashboard). Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Artem Kachitchkine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wouldn't it be cool if the OS behind your car's electronics was > > Solaris > > That would be terrible. I'd rather prefer that the software in my car > was simple enough for its correctness to be formally provable. As well > as testable with 10

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It occurred to me today that there is overlap but it isn't perhaps > a complete overlap as one might tend to believe. > > The embedded community isn't just "appliances". > It is also many other things - for examples, cars. > > Wouldn't it be cool if the OS

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-05-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (General discussions of cross-compilation is suitable for either of > > opensolaris-code or tools-discuss; potential platforms probably should > > start talking here; there are communities and projects associated with > > installation and packaging al

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-04-29 Thread Darren Reed
Artem Kachitchkine wrote: Using a general purpose OS to drive things like the display you use for GPS based navigation or entertainment makes good sense. So what advantage does Solaris offer then? Does it have good multimedia capabilities? Does it reduce costs and time to market for GPS s

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-04-29 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
Using a general purpose OS to drive things like the display you use for GPS based navigation or entertainment makes good sense. So what advantage does Solaris offer then? Does it have good multimedia capabilities? Does it reduce costs and time to market for GPS software vendors, who've been

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-04-29 Thread Darren Reed
Artem Kachitchkine wrote: Wouldn't it be cool if the OS behind your car's electronics was Solaris That would be terrible. I'd rather prefer that the software in my car was simple enough for its correctness to be formally provable. As well as testable with 100% coverage through a procedure

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-04-29 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
Wouldn't it be cool if the OS behind your car's electronics was Solaris That would be terrible. I'd rather prefer that the software in my car was simple enough for its correctness to be formally provable. As well as testable with 100% coverage through a procedure based on something simple s

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-04-29 Thread Darren Reed
Stephen Hahn wrote: * Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-28 16:03]: Hi, To bring together the various groups of people who are interested in talking about Solaris for embedded use, I'd like to propose creating a new discussion forum, embedded-discuss. The purpose of this forum would

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-04-28 Thread Darren Reed
Stephen Hahn wrote: * Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-28 16:03]: Hi, To bring together the various groups of people who are interested in talking about Solaris for embedded use, I'd like to propose creating a new discussion forum, embedded-discuss. The purpose of this forum would

Re: [osol-discuss] Request for new forum: embedded-discuss

2006-04-28 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-28 16:03]: > Hi, > > To bring together the various groups of people who are interested in > talking about Solaris for embedded use, I'd like to propose creating a > new discussion forum, embedded-discuss. > > The purpose of this forum would be to discuss