[osol-discuss] libmtmalloc vs libumem

2010-08-13 Thread Kishore Kumar Pusukuri
Hi, I am able to understand how libmtmalloc works from the documentation of libmtmalloc.c source file. However, I am unable to find proper documentation for libumem. Could someone provide the key differences between libmtmalloc and liumem, please? Please also provide me links to the

Re: [osol-discuss] libmtmalloc vs libumem

2010-08-13 Thread Casper . Dik
Hi, I am able to understand how libmtmalloc works from the documentation of libmtmalloc.c source file. However, I am unable to find proper documentation for libumem. Could someone provide the key diffe rences between libmtmalloc and liumem, please? Please also provide me links to the

Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris

2010-08-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Paul Griffith pa...@cse.yorku.ca wrote: I expect Oracle to give us more info during OpenWorld. I am expecting more to come regarding OpenSolaris, I don't think they will call it OpenSolaris. No! I don't have any inside knowledge, just thinking out loud. Given the fact that Oracte still did

Re: [osol-discuss] Optimizing performance on a ZFS-based NAS

2010-08-13 Thread valrh...@gmail.com
So this is a good call all around. I finally figured out (once again, thanks to another helpful post on this board) about how to benchmark with DD. Doing the direct reads and writes to a non-deduped, non-compressed filesystem over NFS, I get about 110 MB/sec reading, and writing, which is very

Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris

2010-08-13 Thread andrew
On 08/12/10 03:58 PM, andrew wrote: --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: Edward Ned Harvey wrote: #3 It does not make sense to discontinue development of opensolaris. Some day they'll have to make a solaris 12, you know. But they're

Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris

2010-08-13 Thread Ivan Wang
I don't expect to ever see binaries for the OpenSolaris distribution again. The most I think we can expect is a preview of Solaris 11 along the lines of the old Solaris Express programme. I hope I will be proved wrong though. Andrew. That, begs the question how feasible a

Re: [osol-discuss] Optimizing performance on a ZFS-based NAS

2010-08-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of valrh...@gmail.com I actually have two ethernet ports on the server, so in principle I should be able to use automatic link-aggregation in OSOL to do this, right? If I

[osol-discuss] Pre-Flag Day: AI schema changes in build 147

2010-08-13 Thread Sarah Jelinek
Hi All, If you don't use the Solaris Automated Installer(AI) you can safely ignore this message. Otherwise please read on...or read the pre-flag day message at: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+caiman/Pre-Flag+Day+for+bug+16423 Starting in build 147 there will be changes in AI

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Oracle sues Google over Java! Un-believable! Now it is proven what Oracle's intentions are! Is Java free??? What is the future of Java now??? So much for pro-open source attitude! It doesn't exist -maybe it never did after Oracle acquired Sun. Will anyone trust Oracle any more? Too

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
have you read the suit? if oracle's lawers think android is somehow unlawfully affecting its java assets, they have to sue, they have an obligation to their shareholders, they paid quite a few billions for that after all Sun would have had to do the same thing had their lawyers reached the same

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread Octave Orgeron
Well considering how Google and other companies such as VMware tend to trample over open-source software and monkey about with it, I'm not surprised that Oracle is suing Google over Android. It's funny how no one complained about Sun suing Microsoft over Java, but now that it's Oracle suing

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gress
On 08/13/10 09:34 AM, Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: have you read the suit? if oracle's lawers think android is somehow unlawfully affecting its java assets, they have to sue, they have an obligation to their shareholders, they paid quite a few billions for that after all Sun would have had to

Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gress
On 08/13/10 06:35 AM, andrew wrote: I don't expect to ever see binaries for the OpenSolaris distribution again. The most I think we can expect is a preview of Solaris 11 along the lines of the old Solaris Express programme. I hope I will be proved wrong though. I agree, and also I

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
Hi All, This memo was circulated internally within Oracle (and subsequently leaked). Basically, the open source development model has now been axed and OpenSolaris is officially now dead. A very sad day indeed. Solaris Engineering, Today we are announcing a set of decisions regarding the path

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gress
On 08/13/10 11:40 AM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: We will have a Solaris 11 binary distribution, called Solaris 11 Express, that will have a free developer RTU license, and an optional support plan. Solaris 11 Express will debut by the end of this calendar year, and we will issue updates to it,

Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris

2010-08-13 Thread Simon Phipps
On Aug 13, 2010, at 16:39, Paul Gress wrote: On 08/13/10 06:35 AM, andrew wrote: I don't expect to ever see binaries for the OpenSolaris distribution again. The most I think we can expect is a preview of Solaris 11 along the lines of the old Solaris Express programme. I hope I will

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Xavier Beaudouin
Hi Friday 13th August 2010 is really a sad day for Open Source community... :( Xavier Le 13 août 2010 à 17:40, Alasdair Lumsden a écrit : Hi All, This memo was circulated internally within Oracle (and subsequently leaked). Basically, the open source development model has now been axed and

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Presuming this is authentic, and not a hoax...hmm. * Arrogance level: high * Business justification: yes, if one neglects the negative response * Practical impact: unclear Most new projects already got pretty far along behind the firewall before the rest of us could see them. This sounds as if

Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris

2010-08-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Aug 13, 2010, at 16:39, Paul Gress wrote: On 08/13/10 06:35 AM, andrew wrote: I don't expect to ever see binaries for the OpenSolaris distribution again. The most I think we can expect is a preview of Solaris 11 along the lines of the old Solaris Express programme. I hope

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Elaine Ashton
Presuming this is authentic, and not a hoax...hmm. It's not a hoax. Not even given the date and the other news of the day. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris

2010-08-13 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
if your file landed in opensolaris, then you signed an SCA which means you gave sun and now oracle rights akin ownership. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote: On Aug 13, 2010, at 16:39, Paul Gress wrote: On 08/13/10 06:35 AM, andrew wrote: I

[osol-discuss] So, What happens to opensolaris.org?

2010-08-13 Thread Rob Healey
So any bets/pools as to what happens to all the materials in opensolaris.org? Does it just evaporate down a black hole (Imploded Sun?!)? Does it become an archived for posterity link off of OTN? What of all the old archives, mailing lists, pkg repositories, etc? I assume the Solaris 11 Express

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Kerpan
So, OpenSolaris is officially dead... They're no longer providing even read-only access to the live source code (only rare dumps of release products), no longer have any interest in community contribution and also reserve the right to maintain complete radio silence, as it were, on any new

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Anonymous User
Well considering prior statements from Oracle, the company has now lied to developers, customers, shareholders, the general public. Word != Bond. This material fact extends to statements agreements prior to the sale of Sun to Oracle, as well as to statements made post-purchase. Not exactly

Re: [osol-discuss] So, What happens to opensolaris.org?

2010-08-13 Thread Anonymous User
Oracle awkwardly kills it off... What else really. It's not part of management's vision. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Erast
Nexenta Systems initiated, Illumos Project continues its effort... http://www.illumos.org A community maintained derivative of the OpenSolaris ON source, including open source replacements for closed bits, and additional changes. All companies who were working with OpenSolaris/Solaris are

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Petros Koutoupis
I didn't think Oracle had what it takes to really be about open source, this proves that. As much as I am disappointed with the end result of this whole OpenSolaris drama, I still cannot find myself to agree with the above excerpt. Oracle works heavily with Linux. In fact they are sponsoring

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:45:10PM -0700, Petros Koutoupis wrote: I didn't think Oracle had what it takes to really be about open source, this proves that. As much as I am disappointed with the end result of this whole OpenSolaris drama, I still cannot find myself to agree with the above

Re: [osol-discuss] So, What happens to opensolaris.org?

2010-08-13 Thread Charles Hedrick
More precisely, Oracle kills it off without advance announcement or explanation. Just watch. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gress
On 08/13/10 03:45 PM, Petros Koutoupis wrote: I didn't think Oracle had what it takes to really be about open source, this proves that. As much as I am disappointed with the end result of this whole OpenSolaris drama, I still cannot find myself to agree with the above excerpt. Oracle

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/14/10 08:45 AM, Paul Gress wrote: On 08/13/10 03:45 PM, Petros Koutoupis wrote: As much as I am disappointed with the end result of this whole OpenSolaris drama, I still cannot find myself to agree with the above excerpt. Oracle works heavily with Linux. In fact they are sponsoring

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Erik Trimble
On 8/13/2010 12:50 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:45:10PM -0700, Petros Koutoupis wrote: I didn't think Oracle had what it takes to really be about open source, this proves that. As much as I am disappointed with the end result of this whole OpenSolaris drama, I still

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread David R. Linn
Has anyone else taken note of the domain name of the law firm representing Oracle in the suit against Google? I had to check the date - that sort of thing usually pops up on April 1. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss

[osol-discuss] Change segvn cache size

2010-08-13 Thread Kishore Kumar Pusukuri
Hi, I observed that one multi-threaded application is generating so many cross-calls (xcalls) on my AMD multi-core machine. A snapshot of stack trace is shown below. I think that this is because of segvn activity, i.e. unmapping the page and generating cross-call activity to maintain MMU level

[osol-discuss] sad news has reach the press- OpenSolaris axed by Ellison

2010-08-13 Thread Edward Martinez
I guess one last news:( looks to be offical. news never gets pased that guy. In short, the Oracle executives said that the open source, community-driven OpenSolaris project as conceived and built by Sun Microsystems five years ago is dead. Get over it. Instead of OpenSolaris being coded well

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gress
On 08/13/10 05:08 PM, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/14/10 08:45 AM, Paul Gress wrote: On 08/13/10 03:45 PM, Petros Koutoupis wrote: As much as I am disappointed with the end result of this whole OpenSolaris drama, I still cannot find myself to agree with the above excerpt. Oracle works heavily

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Has anyone else taken note of the domain name of the law firm representing Oracle in the suit against Google? snip Has anyone ever heard the name David Boies? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Graham McArdle
Erik, looks like you've already said everything I was thinking of posting and said it better. Oracle is being a blinkered dinosaur, trying to hark back to the good old days when the Unix mainframe was king. It's actually a risky business model, trying to focus entirely on rich investment banks

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread Calum Benson
On 13 Aug 2010, at 22:28, David R. Linn wrote: Has anyone else taken note of the domain name of the law firm representing Oracle in the suit against Google? I had to check the date - that sort of thing usually pops up on April 1. They're a familiar enough name to folks interested in this

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/14/10 09:25 AM, Erik Trimble wrote: Frankly, at this point, I'd be all for Oracle spinning out the Solaris group as a fully-owned subsidiary, responsible for paying its own way. You'd see Solaris make lots of interesting product/marketing decisions and far more cash than I think Oracle

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread nich romero
I find this a little comical in one respect. Google specifically tried to avoid paying Sun for the use of Java intellectual property, copyrights and such in Android. In the same breath Google is went after Augen for instance for using an Unlicensed version for Android which is partly based on

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
Erik, may I please publish your post in full on my public blog (not that it's private here to begin with)? Cheers, Dave -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Where too now?

2010-08-13 Thread Mark Bennett
So Oracle has pulled the plug. That makes for a really black Friday 13th down this end of the planet. Where too from here ? Could the community rally togeather and actually release an OpenSolaris 2010 ? We have the bits that it was to be in 134, but do we have the desire ? Can the OpenSolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Where too now?

2010-08-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/14/10 01:39 PM, Mark Bennett wrote: So Oracle has pulled the plug. That makes for a really black Friday 13th down this end of the planet. Or Saturday 14th at this end. Where too from here ? Could the community rally togeather and actually release an OpenSolaris 2010 ? We have

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of David R. Linn Has anyone else taken note of the domain name of the law firm representing Oracle in the suit against Google? Please forgive me for being too lazy or stupid...

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Alasdair Lumsden This memo was circulated internally within Oracle (and subsequently leaked). Leaked where? Googling around, the only links say Leaked to the

Re: [osol-discuss] Where too now?

2010-08-13 Thread Edward Martinez
So Oracle has pulled the plug. That makes for a really black Friday 13th down this end of the planet. Where too from here ? Could the community rally togeather and actually release an OpenSolaris 2010 ? We have the bits that it was to be in 134, but do we have the desire ? Can

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread devsk
I find this a little comical in one respect. Google specifically tried to avoid paying Sun for the use of Java intellectual property, copyrights and such in Android. In the same breath Google is went after Augen for instance for using an Unlicensed version for Android which is partly based

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/14/10 02:19 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Alasdair Lumsden This memo was circulated internally within Oracle (and subsequently leaked). Leaked where?

[osol-discuss] Mapping the kernel heap with large pages

2010-08-13 Thread Kishore Kumar Pusukuri
Hi, One of my applications is spending around 90% of total execution time reading a huge file using read system call. I though that I could improve the performance of the application by increasing the page size for kernel heap. I know that I can increase page size of application heap using

Re: [osol-discuss] Where too now?

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gress
On 08/13/10 10:29 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: So Oracle has pulled the plug. That makes for a really black Friday 13th down this end of the planet. Where too from here ? Could the community rally togeather and actually release an OpenSolaris 2010 ? Well I believe now Illumos has a six

Re: [osol-discuss] So, What happens to opensolaris.org?

2010-08-13 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
More precisely, Oracle kills it off without advance announcement or explanation. Just watch. That was exactly the circumstance under which the forums at opensolaris.com were shut down... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Gress
On 08/13/10 10:39 PM, devsk wrote: I find this a little comical in one respect. Google specifically tried to avoid paying Sun for the use of Java intellectual property, copyrights and such in Android. In the same breath Google is went after Augen for instance for using an Unlicensed version for

Re: [osol-discuss] Where too now?

2010-08-13 Thread Edward Martinez
I don't think the IPS repos will disappear soon.nbsp; In that memo it was stated they are going to try to get a migration path from Opensolaris to Solaris 11 Express.nbsp; So until that bridge is built, I believe they will keep the current repo going. Paul i reread and i did overlook

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread Prudhvi Krishna Surapaneni
I know, that most of the software written for Android is well sort of Java. Maybe it time for some Google Go for Android? ( if all else fail that is. ) being a strong supporter of OpenSource is a good enough reason to be biased towards Google IMHO. -Prudhvi Surapaneni.