Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 13:51 -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > But the point is, KDE is quite mature and widely used, and decent > OpenSolaris-based distro must have it *integrated* (i.e. not just like > third-party /opt/csw...). > > btw, NexentaOS Alpha 2 will have it integrated and derived from

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, > if it's too difficult to support both GNOME and KDE within Sun, why > can't the Desktop Project be split ? GNOME/JDS within Sun and KDE > outside Sun. > > Having BOTH means giving users (actual and potential) a choice. It's really about resources issues. The desktop team within Sun is alr

[osol-discuss] Re: KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Ché Kristo
I agree...whether intended or not comments like that can be offensive to some members of the community. This is a tech community, if you want to talk religion go to #religion on irc or something ;) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolari

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Stefan Teleman
On 12/20/05, ken mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The benefit of BOTH GNOME and KDE is in the modern > open source applications developed for those desktop > environments. Really, having both GNOME and KDE > available is a better choice in the long run as it > opens up more open source software t

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolairis a choice for the government desktop? // Re:

2005-12-20 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 23:05 -0800, Bob Palowoda wrote: > > We don't just ship GNOME though - KDE is available on > > the CCD right? > > It's just not supported. > > Speaking of the CCD what ever happened with Steve's plans > for it? I think work is still continuing on it as far as I unders

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread ken mays
If I remember correctly, the story really evolved around lowering budgeting costs from MS to a lower cost solution (not anything to do with a Solaris battle). Suse being HQ in German kinda helped in that discussion. KDE was one of the primary desktops so it kinda went in that direction. Both KDE a

[osol-discuss] Re: Share a cdrom with NFS

2005-12-20 Thread Martin Cerveny
Hello, > /etc/dfs/dfstab > share -o ro /cdrom/cdrom0 Delete this configuration, the vold is responsible to share volumes. > I entered the following in /etc/rmmount.conf > share -o ro /cdrom* rmmount.conf(4): share cdrom* -o ro > At that time i see on my client all the slice that I > can mount in

Re: [osol-discuss] BrandZ in the News--

2005-12-20 Thread Laura Ramsey
LOL! Bravo to both Dennis and Bryan--So True! the press doesn't have the luxury of time to write a story. So just provide access to complete information and extraordinary minds to collaborate the story...it's an imperfect model, but of they folks covering opensolaris...they know the industr

[osol-discuss] My PhD Research with the OpenSolaris Community (or "I'm not disappeared")

2005-12-20 Thread Maurizio Teli
hi to all! as you probably remember, some months ago I write to the cab members, to make explicit my idea of constructing my phd research with the opensolaris community. now I'm ready, you can find more informations about me and my research at: http://arcadia.lii.unitn.it/MaurizioAndOpensolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I woudn't underestimate Linus's Torvalds opinion... A lot of OSS > > > developers looking at what he is saying and following him no matter > > > what. I agree

[osol-discuss] Review new rbac(5) man page

2005-12-20 Thread Darren J Moffat
The current rbac(5) man page isn't really that useful as an overview page for system admins. It does a really poor job of describing the functionality. It has also been requested that it contain information to assist admins used to using sudo(1m). Attached is a draft of the new rbac(5) page I'm

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE 3.4.3 IA32/AMD32 and UltraSPARC-II Released

2005-12-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:39 pm, Stefan Teleman wrote: > KDE 3.4.3 (Sun Studio 10 build) has been released. > > Announcement is here: > > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-solaris&m=113497402431141&w=2 > > Screenshots are here: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/skipjackdes/sets/1603147/ > > Stefan Tel

Re: OpenSolairis a choice for the government desktop? // Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 12:59 +, Brian Nitz wrote: > I'm sure there are other areas where GNOME has an advantage over KDE. I > hope Opensolaris distributions based on KDE, Looking glass and other > open source desktops become available but if everyone played by the > rules and followed

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolairis a choice for the government desktop?

2005-12-20 Thread Eric Boutilier
Felix Schulte wrote: Sun's choice of only shipping Gnome... Keep in mind though, this is a whole new OpenSolaris world. Now anyone can take OpenSolaris and KDE and do what, e.g., Canonical Ltd. is doing with Debian and GNOME. (See: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/paidsu

Re: [osol-discuss] usb driver questions

2005-12-20 Thread Gary Gendel
frits vanderlinden wrote: > Gary Gendel wrote: > > >> I installed the ugen driver, (I got a message like: installed driver >> but couldn't attach). >> > you mean you did an add_drv Exactly. > >> Ok, after reboot. and saw that things were ok in the prtconf output. >> I tried the usbups code fo

[osol-discuss] test - mail server down ?

2005-12-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
just checking .. rumour is .. the server was down . dc ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Share a cdrom with NFS

2005-12-20 Thread Marc GREEN
I used to share my cdrom using the following entry in /etc/dfs/dfstab share -o ro /cdrom/cdrom0 This would allow the client to access usually all the sub-directories of my cdrom I tried with Solaris 10 3/05 s10_74L2a with a Solaris cd (installation 1 of 2) and when I do dfshares I see :/cdro

[osol-discuss] SVOSUG Pot Luck Clarification

2005-12-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
Just so some of you that have been asking would know. 1) you do not have to bring anything for the pot luck, just bring yourself and be a part of the community. 2) if you would like to bring something for the community pot luck, please feel free to do so, and by all means everyone is welcome to

[osol-discuss] Building an (almost completely) non-debug OpenSolaris

2005-12-20 Thread Alan Hargreaves
Apologies for the wide distribution. I've just done a blog up detailing how, using currently available stuff one can build an almost completely non-debug opensolaris. I'm currently running said build on a Ferrari 4005 with the BrandZ code. http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/tpenta?entry=buildin

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Al Hopper
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I woudn't underestimate Linus's Torvalds opinion... A lot of OSS > > developers looking at what he is saying and following him no matter > > what. I agree it will not change picture much, but KDE will defin

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Stefan Teleman
On 12/19/05, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many catholics will avoid to use the pill just because the pope > recommends not to use it? i don't use the pill and i am catholic. is that bad ? --Stefan -- Stefan Teleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Ethernet bridge

2005-12-20 Thread Yukun Zhang
I also would like to participate in this project. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Is anyone else using the Nvidia binary driver?

2005-12-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Saturday 17 December 2005 12:45 pm, Rich Teer wrote: > I love the performance of the AMD stuff, but I'm still a SPARC guy > at heart. The x86 platform is just so, err, idiosyncratic, and > broken in some respects, that it probably will never take the place > of SPARC in my heart. Give me a SPA

[osol-discuss] CONGRATULATIONS! OpenSolaris noted as a top 10 Moment in IT!

2005-12-20 Thread Laura Ramsey
How Great is this! Congratulations OpenSolaris.org! 2005's top 10 moments in IT InfoWorld Cathleen Moore December 19, 2005 http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/12/19/51NNyearinreview_1.html ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@op

Re: [osol-discuss] BrandZ in the News--

2005-12-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Saturday 17 December 2005 03:52 pm, Bryan Cantrill wrote: > I'd flip that around: if press stories were written the way software is > written, your daily newspaper would show up once every couple of months, > would take several hours to figure out how to open, and (for reasons > unknown) would

Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-20 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 16:52 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I woudn't underestimate Linus's Torvalds opinion... A lot of OSS > > developers looking at what he is saying and following him no matter > > what. I agree it will not change picture much, but

[osol-discuss] Free Server from Sun!?

2005-12-20 Thread Bill Rushmore
Check this out from Jonathan Swartz's blog: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan?entry=holiday_gifts OK it is just a free trial of a Niagra server but if you have a compelling blog entry about a benchmark comparison with another chipset/OS you get to keep it for free. Hmmm, I wonder how if I

Re: [osol-discuss] Fun Bay Area OpenSolaris Opportunity

2005-12-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Sunday 18 December 2005 03:19 pm, Ben Rockwood wrote: > Thursday night, after I presented at Bay Lisa... I brainfarted and missed it. You did mention to me you were doing this, but didn't announce it that week or anything...:-( Oh well... I can't seem to get to the mail.opensolaris.org to fre

[osol-discuss] Re: installinf opensolaris on a p3 750,384m b

2005-12-20 Thread Ché Kristo
Well if you are looking for another distro there is Nexenta, I haven't used it personally so I don't know its requirement either. Umm, maybe someone else knows better than I do but isn't this memory requirement newboot's fault, I seem to remember some blogs on this topic. Googling... Here is a

[osol-discuss] a couple newbie rpath qestions...

2005-12-20 Thread Chris Haukap
is it possible to alter the rpath field of a binary/executable? I have an executable that requires libm.so.2, but doesn't need to. It could just as easily link to libm.so.1. I've heard that I can edit the 'rpath' to force the binary to look for libm.so.1 instead of libm.so.2, but I cannot fig

Re: [osol-discuss] Fun Bay Area OpenSolaris Opportunity

2005-12-20 Thread Ben Rockwood
Alan DuBoff wrote: On Sunday 18 December 2005 03:19 pm, Ben Rockwood wrote: Thursday night, after I presented at Bay Lisa... I brainfarted and missed it. You did mention to me you were doing this, but didn't announce it that week or anything...:-( Oh well... I didn't make much noi

[osol-discuss] Information about today's mail outage

2005-12-20 Thread Derek Cicero
All, I apologize for the inconvenience caused by today's mail outage. I had no idea that the server was going to be down today and actually found when I tried to access the machine this morning. So what happened? We were moving to new hosting facility over the weekended and the plan was to

[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolairis a choice for the government desktop? // Re:

2005-12-20 Thread Bob Palowoda
KDE, GNOME, In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Approved: Gw3Zx > We don't just ship GNOME though - KDE is available on > the CCD right? > It's just not supported. Speaking of the CCD what ever happen