Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Erast Benson wrote: Alfredo, One of the goals of GNU/OpenSolaris project is to track all changes and bugs progress on porting/enhancing OSS projects... Erast, What would be _really_ cool would be to have a two-way flow between the Nexenta system and the JDS/pkgbuild one. In this scenario the following would happen for example: A JDS developer integrates a change to Xine into their ports collection (which is done by updating/testing the custom Xine spec file in the JDS build system), and the change automatically gets updated in the Nexenta build system too. And vice versa of course. Of course even cooler yet would be to have on a single standard format and master site for capturing porting specs and patches, and have all Solaris app porting developers contribute to and draw from it. Eric GNU/OpenSolaris web development portal provide Subversion hosting and integrated Trac (Nexenta Bug Tracking System, i.e. NBTS) available for HackZone developers. (one should aquire account first) Latests development will bring future Launchpad(a collection of services for projects in the open source universe) integration, so any security fixes released by Ubuntu, RedHat, Debian, Gentoo, etc will be automatically tracked by NBTS and vice-versa. https://launchpad.net/distros/nexenta GNU/OpenSolaris web portal provides read/write Subversion access for HackZone interface. This interface is described at: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/HackZone Bugs can be tracked/viewed at here: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/Bugs HackZone forum: http://www.gnusolaris.org/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=4 just an idea... Erast On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 16:31 -0300, Alfredo Pe?a wrote: Hi, I remember some talk about the creation of a application porting discussion forum. I can't find that list in http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ Is there plans to have that list? Is it ok to send app port questions to opensolaris-discuss meanwhile? Alf ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?
Alfredo Pe?a wrote: Hi, I remember some talk about the creation of a application porting discussion forum. I can't find that list in http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ Is there plans to have that list? Is it ok to send app port questions to opensolaris-discuss meanwhile? Posting here is probably not the best way to go. For app port question, you'll have much better luck posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because most (all?) of the Solaris GNOME/JDS and KDE porting folks are subscribed there. Also, because almost every major open source app that's been around for a while has been ported to Solaris by one or more of: Blastwave, Sunfreeware, or Companion CD, those communities are good places to look for guidance too. - If the app is on the Companion CD: the engineer who ported it might have documented useful porting info. This is done via a file called sfw.README in the source package. For more information and a link to a tar file of all the READMES, see: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=8147#8147 - If the app is on sunfreeware.com, e-mail Steve Christensen for porting advice. - If the app is on Blastwave, click on the package name in the package list, and then click on contact the maintainer. Also click on the maintainer's name -- sometimes you'll find additional porting information or pointers there. Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?
Alfredo Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erast, Thanks for your offer, but I'm trying to target Sun Solaris distro. Probably for most software developing in Nexenta is the same than developing in Solaris, but for something like xine that is very dependent on the specific versions of various libs (gnome, Xorg, libjpeg/tiff/etc...) that are not part of OpenSolaris yet, I assume that using Nexenta would be very different than using Solaris. Please correct me if I'm wrong. There is a big difference between developing on Nexenta and doing the same on Sun Solaris or SchilliX. On the latter, you get full compatibility even for the build system. On Nexenta, it may be that you will get into trouble while compiling because there are no UNIX tools in /usr/bin but GNU tools. So be careful with assumptions on compatibility. For a software dveloper, SchilliX is currently the best platform because it gives better compatibility to Sun Solaris and because the developer tools, libraries and include files are more complete. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 17:09 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alfredo Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erast, Thanks for your offer, but I'm trying to target Sun Solaris distro. Probably for most software developing in Nexenta is the same than developing in Solaris, but for something like xine that is very dependent on the specific versions of various libs (gnome, Xorg, libjpeg/tiff/etc...) that are not part of OpenSolaris yet, I assume that using Nexenta would be very different than using Solaris. Please correct me if I'm wrong. There is a big difference between developing on Nexenta and doing the same on Sun Solaris or SchilliX. On the latter, you get full compatibility even for the build system. On Nexenta, it may be that you will get into trouble while compiling because there are no UNIX tools in /usr/bin but GNU tools. So be careful with assumptions on compatibility. For a software dveloper, SchilliX is currently the best platform because it gives better compatibility to Sun Solaris and because the developer tools, libraries and include files are more complete. Actually regarding xine and alike, Nexenta would be a better option for developers because of availability of libraries which does not exists on Solaris or blastwave.org. I'm talking about various plugins, language bindings and so on. All these extra libraries are part of Nexenta core. So, whether SchiliX or Nexenta better for developers is all pretty much depends on developers and their tasks. And just to notice, I think compilation of OpenSolaris on Nexenta is very possible, and will be available in Alpha 2 time frame. Erast ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And just to notice, I think compilation of OpenSolaris on Nexenta is very possible, and will be available in Alpha 2 time frame. If you believe this, you did obviously never actually try it out.. Of course, if you delay Alpha 2 for several weeks you may be right ;-) Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 19:59 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And just to notice, I think compilation of OpenSolaris on Nexenta is very possible, and will be available in Alpha 2 time frame. If you believe this, you did obviously never actually try it out.. I think Mac tried it out. There was many issues all over... But all this is doable. Of course, if you delay Alpha 2 for several weeks you may be right ;-) Right. :-) No rush. After all, some bits are not even available yet. Erast ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?
Erast, Thanks for your offer, but I'm trying to target Sun Solaris distro. Probably for most software developing in Nexenta is the same than developing in Solaris, but for something like xine that is very dependent on the specific versions of various libs (gnome, Xorg, libjpeg/tiff/etc...) that are not part of OpenSolaris yet, I assume that using Nexenta would be very different than using Solaris. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Regards, Alf Erast Benson wrote: Alfredo, One of the goals of GNU/OpenSolaris project is to track all changes and bugs progress on porting/enhancing OSS projects which are not distributed by SUN but part of any regular GNU/Linux distribution like Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. GNU/OpenSolaris web development portal provide Subversion hosting and integrated Trac (Nexenta Bug Tracking System, i.e. NBTS) available for HackZone developers. (one should aquire account first) Latests development will bring future Launchpad(a collection of services for projects in the open source universe) integration, so any security fixes released by Ubuntu, RedHat, Debian, Gentoo, etc will be automatically tracked by NBTS and vice-versa. https://launchpad.net/distros/nexenta GNU/OpenSolaris web portal provides read/write Subversion access for HackZone interface. This interface is described at: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/HackZone Bugs can be tracked/viewed at here: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/Bugs HackZone forum: http://www.gnusolaris.org/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=4 just an idea... Erast On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 16:31 -0300, Alfredo Peña wrote: Hi, I remember some talk about the creation of a application porting discussion forum. I can't find that list in http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ Is there plans to have that list? Is it ok to send app port questions to opensolaris-discuss meanwhile? Alf ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 10:46 -0300, Alfredo Peña wrote: Erast, Thanks for your offer, but I'm trying to target Sun Solaris distro. Probably for most software developing in Nexenta is the same than developing in Solaris, but for something like xine that is very dependent on the specific versions of various libs (gnome, Xorg, libjpeg/tiff/etc...) that are not part of OpenSolaris yet, I assume that using Nexenta would be very different than using Solaris. Should work actually. Nexenta provides different versions of the same library. i.e. for instance libneon: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 22 23:14 /usr/lib/libneon.so.23 - libneon.so.23.0.9 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Sep 24 10:57 /usr/lib/libneon.so.24 - libneon.so.24.0.7 the same true for libgnome, libjpeg and others. If some of the libraries missing, we will package it and package will co-exists with existing packages, i.e. for instance neon: $ dpkg -s libneon23 libneon24 | grep ^Package: Package: libneon23 Package: libneon24 Erast Please correct me if I'm wrong. Regards, Alf Erast Benson wrote: Alfredo, One of the goals of GNU/OpenSolaris project is to track all changes and bugs progress on porting/enhancing OSS projects which are not distributed by SUN but part of any regular GNU/Linux distribution like Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. GNU/OpenSolaris web development portal provide Subversion hosting and integrated Trac (Nexenta Bug Tracking System, i.e. NBTS) available for HackZone developers. (one should aquire account first) Latests development will bring future Launchpad(a collection of services for projects in the open source universe) integration, so any security fixes released by Ubuntu, RedHat, Debian, Gentoo, etc will be automatically tracked by NBTS and vice-versa. https://launchpad.net/distros/nexenta GNU/OpenSolaris web portal provides read/write Subversion access for HackZone interface. This interface is described at: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/HackZone Bugs can be tracked/viewed at here: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/Bugs HackZone forum: http://www.gnusolaris.org/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=4 just an idea... Erast On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 16:31 -0300, Alfredo Peña wrote: Hi, I remember some talk about the creation of a application porting discussion forum. I can't find that list in http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ Is there plans to have that list? Is it ok to send app port questions to opensolaris-discuss meanwhile? Alf ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] App porting forum?
Alfredo, One of the goals of GNU/OpenSolaris project is to track all changes and bugs progress on porting/enhancing OSS projects which are not distributed by SUN but part of any regular GNU/Linux distribution like Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. GNU/OpenSolaris web development portal provide Subversion hosting and integrated Trac (Nexenta Bug Tracking System, i.e. NBTS) available for HackZone developers. (one should aquire account first) Latests development will bring future Launchpad(a collection of services for projects in the open source universe) integration, so any security fixes released by Ubuntu, RedHat, Debian, Gentoo, etc will be automatically tracked by NBTS and vice-versa. https://launchpad.net/distros/nexenta GNU/OpenSolaris web portal provides read/write Subversion access for HackZone interface. This interface is described at: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/HackZone Bugs can be tracked/viewed at here: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/Bugs HackZone forum: http://www.gnusolaris.org/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=4 just an idea... Erast On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 16:31 -0300, Alfredo Peña wrote: Hi, I remember some talk about the creation of a application porting discussion forum. I can't find that list in http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ Is there plans to have that list? Is it ok to send app port questions to opensolaris-discuss meanwhile? Alf ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
