Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

Boy, There was nothing quiet, or "in the background" about it, believe me. This update is the topic of conversation at the noon PDT brown bag I'm hosting today. The changes were pushed live ahead of the meeting, so there would be no question they are incorporated in to the TPV and TOS, both of w

Re: [opensource-dev] Requesting Linden Response: Please move TPVP Topics to a different mailing list

gest problem for you. > > > > > > Ron Festa > > Virtual Worlds Admin > > Division of Continuing Studies at Rutgers University > > PGP key: http://bit.ly/b1ZyhY > > Phone: 732-474-8583 > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Rob Nelson

Re: [opensource-dev] Requesting Linden Response: Please move TPVP Topics to a different mailing list

Rob, I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday? -- Joe On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson wrote: > It's already reached a point where LL has told us, to our faces, that > they are not going to change the policy, meaning our opinion doesn't > mean diddly to them. There's no use co

Re: [opensource-dev] IRC bridge for brown-bag, Tuesday 4/13 noon PDT

I will also try to provide a dial-in bridge (using the AvaLine access numbers) for access to the voice channel for people who can't (or won't) make it in-world. I'll post the dialing information for that as soon as I've fully tested it in the proximal channel we're using tomorrow. -- joe On Mon,

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV

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[opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

Hello, all. I've been reading the ongoing commentary here, on various blogs, irc, and in-world groups about the recently introduced Third Party Viewer Policy and Directory and I'd like to host an "office hour" or informal brown bag to make the conversation a little more synchronous for those who a

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

obably is the (by some welcomed) goal of >> LL to close-source the viewer. It will not do anything to stop malicious >> clients to flourish, the Neils give a shit on policies or licenses. >> >> The consequence is that no 3rd party developer that uses LL's GPLed >&g

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

or non-compliance for each. > > As it is, one would be prudent to assume LL reserves the right to take > direct legal action against developers, which is quite frankly scary > for small open source developers. > > Cheers, > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Joe Linden wrot

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

It is not a hard concession to make and we have already made it. (As noted in the FAQ here: "...although you must provide your name and contact information to Linden Lab to be included in the Viewer Directory, you do not need to make that information publicly available in your listing page. You m

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

No, it only governs viewers that actually do connect to the SL grid, not those that are capable of doing so (but don't.) On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Ryan McDougall wrote: > > If so, in effect, the TPV policy governs all SL protocols? > > ___ Poli

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

I'll have a longer reply for several responses here tomorrow, but please note the definition of a Third Party Viewer in the policy document states "By “Third-Party Viewer,” we mean any third-party software client on any device that *logs into our servers* that support Second Life." There is no re

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date

The updated version of the Third Party Viewer Policy was posted here about a week ago: http://secondlife.com/corporate/tpv.php As stated in the FAQ, the policy will be in full force and effect on April

Re: [opensource-dev] Media capabilities hidden to TPV?

Latif, In taking a quick look at the code granting those CAPs, there's nothing conditional on the viewer string. There may be other flags that need to be set at login, though, and I don't see anyone from the MoaP team around at the moment to ask. The CAPs can be disabled on a per sim basis, so y

Re: [opensource-dev] FAQ posted for Third Party Viewer Policy

econd Life user who is using the Third-Party Viewer." -- joe On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Ann Otoole wrote: > > Since Joe Linden is reading and participating I must ask if LL will be > correcting their viewers' non compliance by implementing creator only > controls on

Re: [opensource-dev] FAQ posted for Third Party Viewer Policy

TPV developers may choose to list their viewers in the Directory for the value of receiving a wider awareness than they may be able to create themselves, or not. That's entirely up to the developer. All viewers that connect to the SL grids will need to abide by the TPV Policy regardless of their

Re: [opensource-dev] FAQ posted for Third Party Viewer Policy

Yes, Mike, we created the Third Party Viewer Directory to promote a range of viewers that allow Residents to experience Second Life and everything in it in a wide variety of ways. Since we'll be pointing to it often, it's a great way for the largest possible audience of Residents to learn about vi