Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-17 Thread Oscar Jacobsson
Well... I think it's more a case of OpenSSL and LDAP using *different* mechanisms for string encoding. LDAP reverses the RDN sequence (making it conform to RFC 2253), while OpenSSL (and this goes back to SSLeay) does not. I don't think you could really claim that there was an X.500 order at

Re: [Openca-Users] Wrong DNs

2002-04-17 Thread Robert Hannemann
Michael Bell schrieb: Hi, we found today a big problem with the DNs which OpenSSL displays because our application (OpenCA) produce DNs which are conform to the directorystandards but OpenSSL interprets them in the opposite order. What does this mean? Here an example: The root of our

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-17 Thread Robert Joop
On 02-04-16 16:49:25 CEST, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: BTW, thinking about it, I'm not sure why this discussion acme up at all. Certificates are often stored as attributes of a record (eh, terminology isn't a strength of mine, so if record isn't the proper term, please pardon me),

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-17 Thread Michael Bell
Harald Koch schrieb: In LDAP, the convention is to display the DNs in the opposite order, but the semantic meaning of the DN is unchanged. The X.500 representation /c=us/o=foo/ou=people/cn=joe specifies the exact same object as the LDAP DN cn=joe,ou=people,o=foo,c=us

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Bell
Vadim Fedukovich schrieb: On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Michael Bell wrote: Hi, we found today a big problem with the DNs which OpenSSL displays because our application (OpenCA) produce DNs which are conform to the directorystandards but OpenSSL interprets them in the opposite order. What

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Bell
Michael Bell schrieb: Vadim Fedukovich schrieb: On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Michael Bell wrote: Hi, we found today a big problem with the DNs which OpenSSL displays because our application (OpenCA) produce DNs which are conform to the directorystandards but OpenSSL interprets

RE: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Howard Chu
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Bell Vadim Fedukovich schrieb: On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Michael Bell wrote: Hi, we found today a big problem with the DNs which OpenSSL displays because our application (OpenCA)

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Lutz Jaenicke
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 08:57:00PM +0200, Michael Bell wrote: Hi, we found today a big problem with the DNs which OpenSSL displays because our application (OpenCA) produce DNs which are conform to the directorystandards but OpenSSL interprets them in the opposite order. What does this

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Bell
Howard Chu schrieb: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Bell What do you want to say with this answer? The problem has nothing to do with signature verification. If you use openssl x509 or any other openssl command

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:57:00 +0200, Michael Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: michael.bell we found today a big problem with the DNs which OpenSSL michael.bell displays because our application (OpenCA) produce DNs michael.bell which are conform to the directorystandards

RE: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Howard Chu
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Bell Howard Chu schrieb: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Bell What do you want to say with this answer? The

RE: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Howard Chu
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:57:00 +0200, Michael Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: michael.bell we found today a big problem with the DNs which

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Vadim Fedukovich
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Michael Bell wrote: Vadim Fedukovich schrieb: On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Michael Bell wrote: Hi, we found today a big problem with the DNs which OpenSSL displays because our application (OpenCA) produce DNs which are conform to the directorystandards but

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Robert Joop
On 02-04-16 11:02:58 CEST, Howard Chu wrote: the order of everything. Certificates are specified in X.509 and are properly a part of the X.500 family, and the X.500 DN syntax is clearly specified. the syntax is clearly specified, but the only thing that i could find about the RDN order is

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Robert Joop
On 02-04-16 10:51:31 CEST, Howard Chu wrote: At its core, LDAP is simply a different front-end for the X.500 information model. A DN is a name that uniquely identifies an object in the X.500 name space. Practically speaking, a DN is a DN. In pure X.500, DNs are specified to be big-endian,

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:54:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Joop) said: joop is the order part of X.500 syntax (isn't it semantics?) or is it just joop a general convention? I've perceived it as a general convention. BTW, thinking about it, I'm not sure why this

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:58:28 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Joop) said: joop it's the different presentations of a DN that are inverses. I just looked again at the relevant section of RFC 2253 with a much more awake brain. Seems like you are correct. --

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:29:00 -0400, Harald Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: chk X.500 uses the '/' convention, while RFC 2253 uses the ',' convention. About X.500, that seems to be incorrect. I just looked through X.501 (which describes the directory models), and the

RE: Wrong DNs

2002-04-16 Thread Howard Chu
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Joop On 02-04-16 10:51:31 CEST, Howard Chu wrote: In LDAP, the convention is to display the DNs in the opposite order, but the semantic meaning of the DN is unchanged. The X.500

Wrong DNs

2002-04-15 Thread Michael Bell
Hi, we found today a big problem with the DNs which OpenSSL displays because our application (OpenCA) produce DNs which are conform to the directorystandards but OpenSSL interprets them in the opposite order. What does this mean? Here an example: The root of our directory is the following:

Re: Wrong DNs

2002-04-15 Thread Vadim Fedukovich
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Michael Bell wrote: Hi, we found today a big problem with the DNs which OpenSSL displays because our application (OpenCA) produce DNs which are conform to the directorystandards but OpenSSL interprets them in the opposite order. What does this mean? Here an example: