Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Loganaden Velvindron
: OpenSSL roadmap On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com wrote: However, I feel that the developer group is a bit closed to outsiders. More communication and transparency is coming, as we have a bigger and more invigorated developer team. It will take time

RE: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Salz, Rich
No, I don't mean to imply that you are one of the bad guys. It's just that we have only one real way of knowing who the good guys are, and that is being part of the development team. Yes, that can be very inconvenient. Trust me, I know, it took more than 10 years for the team to open up and

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Loganaden Velvindron
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com wrote: No, I don't mean to imply that you are one of the bad guys. It's just that we have only one real way of knowing who the good guys are, and that is being part of the development team. Yes, that can be very inconvenient.

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Matt Caswell
On 3 July 2014 13:01, Loganaden Velvindron logana...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com wrote: No, I don't mean to imply that you are one of the bad guys. It's just that we have only one real way of knowing who the good guys are, and that is being

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 04:01:16PM +0400, Loganaden Velvindron wrote: I see such trends as leading to dangerous situations in the future. OpenSSL is widely deployed, and the developers appear to grow older, according to the various interviews I read. (I don't wish to offend any of you guys

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Čt, 2014-07-03 at 09:13 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: However, in the kernel we are much more lax about who gets access to the Coverity project. Part of this is the sure and certain knowledge that the bad guys are quite willing to pay for a Coverity license, and so for us the balance of

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Ben Laurie
On 3 July 2014 14:13, Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu wrote: However, in the kernel we are much more lax about who gets access to the Coverity project. Part of this is the sure and certain knowledge that the bad guys are quite willing to pay for a Coverity license, and so for us the balance of

RE: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Salz, Rich
release processes at various distributions. (Given that Microsoft has weekly patch Tuesdays, if even slow moving *Microsoft* can turn around a security update in a week, what's your excuse? :-) They have a regular release train, but it doesn't mean that everything gets fixed in one week.

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Ben Laurie
On 3 July 2014 15:28, Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com wrote: release processes at various distributions. (Given that Microsoft has weekly patch Tuesdays, if even slow moving *Microsoft* can turn around a security update in a week, what's your excuse? :-) They have a regular release train, but

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 09:13:43AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: (Given that Microsoft has weekly patch Tuesdays, if even slow moving *Microsoft* can turn around a security update in a week, what's your excuse? :-) As far as I know, patch Tuesday is the 2nd Tuesday of the month. But wikipedia

OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-02 Thread Loganaden Velvindron
Hi guys, I'm very happy to see the OpenSSL roadmap. However, I feel that the developer group is a bit closed to outsiders. I requested access to the OpenSSL scan results on coverity, and up to now, my request is still pending :-( -- This message is strictly personal and the opinions

RE: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-02 Thread Salz, Rich
However, I feel that the developer group is a bit closed to outsiders. More communication and transparency is coming, as we have a bigger and more invigorated developer team. It will take time. But not everything will always be discussed in public mailing lists right away, parciularly

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-02 Thread Loganaden Velvindron
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com wrote: However, I feel that the developer group is a bit closed to outsiders. More communication and transparency is coming, as we have a bigger and more invigorated developer team. It will take time. But not everything will

RE: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-02 Thread Salz, Rich
-openssl- d...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of Loganaden Velvindron Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM To: openssl-dev@openssl.org Subject: Re: OpenSSL roadmap On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com wrote: However, I feel that the developer group is a bit closed to outsiders

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-02 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Loganaden Velvindron logana...@gmail.com wrote: If I'm interested in fixing OpenSSL, why shouldn't I have access to coverity scans ? I'm not a committer, and not a core member, but I am fully prepared to answer your question. Because the policy of the project

Re: OpenSSL roadmap

2014-07-02 Thread Daniel Reynolds
I agree. Not all open source projects play a major role in securing much of the worlds e commerce. On Jul 2, 2014 2:52 PM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Loganaden Velvindron logana...@gmail.com wrote: If I'm interested in fixing OpenSSL, why