Re: [Openstack] OpenStack core components library

2010-08-30 Thread Jay Pipes
OK, so is everyone cool with me creating a new project called openstack-common under the openstack umbrella? This project would be specifically for *Python* common library and utilities. We got a little off-track with discussing bindings (it's a great topic, but not necessarily related to a

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack core components library

2010-08-30 Thread Jay Pipes
Done: https://launchpad.net/openstack-common Rick, feel free to change the branding to the openstack images, etc... -jay On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Rick Clark r...@openstack.org wrote: +1 This is the only reasonable thing to do. On 08/30/2010 09:41 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: OK, so

Re: [Openstack] Please welcome our new Technical Writer Anne Gentle

2010-09-10 Thread Jay Pipes
Welcome, Ann! Great to have you on board! :) -jay On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Rick Clark r...@openstack.org wrote: OpenStack community, I am very happy to welcome Anne Gentle,who started Tuesday, to the OpenStack community. Anne has a great background both in tech writing and open

Re: [Openstack] Test Frameworks ...

2010-11-22 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Sandy! Comments inline :) On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: Hi y'all, I'm working on the Admin API blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/admin-only-api And while looking at the code I discovered that the openstack API unittests

Re: [Openstack] i18n support in nova

2010-12-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Monty Taylor monty.tay...@rackspace.com wrote: I am more in favor of option 1. I know it means a large patch up front - but the strings to be translated have to be identified in some manner to create the .pot files. If we don't use the normal tooling to do

[Openstack] Nova now i18n-ified

2010-12-22 Thread Jay Pipes
the formatting markers in place. For example, this: logging.debug(My name is %s, Jay Pipes) would be changed to: logging.debug(_(My name is %s), Jay Pipes) Note that the _() surrounds ONLY the string to be translated and not the arguments that fill in a formatting marker. For users: I

Re: [Openstack] Nova now i18n-ified

2010-12-22 Thread Jay Pipes
Use the second pattern. It will be properly picked up for translation by gettext. So, in short, use dict-based formatting markers when this situation arises. Cheers! jay On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: When you

Re: [Openstack] Merging baby steps or full branches

2010-12-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hello everyone, There was some discussion yesterday around Josh's diagnostics-per-instance branch merge proposal [1] and on IRC [2] afterwards. In summary, Josh uses baby steps branch merge proposals, landing part

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com wrote: What is the intended semantics of the Glance x-image-meta-type header values “raw” vs “machine”? When we pulled the Image model from Nova into Glance, there was a field image_type that was limited to the strings raw,

Re: [Openstack] Glance/Nova Snapshot Changes

2011-01-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Rick Harris rick.har...@rackspace.com wrote: In developing Nova's instance snapshots, I've run into a little snag revolving around somed design decisions in both Nova and Glance.  I have a plan that I'd like to move forward with ASAP, so please, if you see any

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
a no to adding VMX as an appliance format? We had also talked about the IMG disk format to support AMIs but RAW is the same thing so we are covered there. Cool, thanks :) -jay Erik On 1/13/11 9:15 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/13 Diego Parrilla Santamaría

Re: [Openstack] Lazy import of modules

2011-01-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com wrote: At the risk of starting to shave yaks: do we want to have an openstack-common then?  It seems to be DOA at the moment. There's little to no agreement on common principles and code between the projects, unfortunately.

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/1/17 Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com: If by appliance format you mean disk image + metadata about the VM as distinguished from plain disk images, then the combination of a VMDK and a VMX could be considered to be an appliance format.  If you mean something richer (e.g. an

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/1/17 Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com: John Purrier sent out an RFC on Dec 30 regarding image conversion (between hypervisor formats or otherwise).  You can get that from the mailing list archive, I presume.  We’ll be discussing this lots more over the next weeks and months. Yes,

Re: [Openstack] Glance x-image-meta-type raw vs machine

2011-01-17 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/1/16 Diego Parrilla Santamaría diego.parrilla.santama...@gmail.com: I think VMDK subtypes are very relevant information and has to be indicated before a deployment. Just an example: if you try to deploy a streamOptimized or even some sparse formats directly to VMware ESXi they won't work,

Re: [Openstack] Reminder: OpenStack team meeting - 21:00 UTC

2011-01-18 Thread Jay Pipes
/me votes for Dumas. Just so much potential with that one. -jay On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Mark Collier mark.coll...@rackspace.com wrote: Here's a list of Texas cities for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Texas Daingerfield Daisetta Dalhart Dallas

Re: [Openstack] new config file for nova-api

2011-01-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Armando Migliaccio armando.migliac...@eu.citrix.com wrote: I have noticed that recently a new way of configuring nova-api has been introduced. It seems that the old gflags style has been replaced in favour of paste.deploy style. I am trying to find information

Re: [Openstack] new config file for nova-api

2011-01-19 Thread Jay Pipes
in scope. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Armando Migliaccio armando.migliac...@eu.citrix.com wrote: I have noticed that recently a new way of configuring nova-api has been introduced. It seems that the old gflags style has

[Openstack] State of Glance

2011-01-23 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi! Lions, tigers, and Bexars, oh my. I wanted to give the community a heads up on the progress we've made with Glance image service OpenStack project and some insight into what is being planned for completion in the next release (Cactus). For the Bexar release, we focused on the following

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-01-28 Thread Jay Pipes
Thanks for the update, Ewan, and for the gentle encouragement for open, transparent, and public discussions of design. Let's move the discussions of the Network Service project forward! All involved: please don't hesitate to contact me or this mailing list if you have any questions at all about

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-01-28 Thread Jay Pipes
...@openstack.org wrote: On 01/28/2011 08:55 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Rick Clark r...@openstack.org wrote: I recognise the desire to do this for Cactus, but I feel that pulling out the network controller (and/or volume controller) into their own separate OpenStack

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-01-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: Integration is the issue.  It only works with osapi/xen at this point which isn't even the default hypervisor setting in the packaging.  A large number of people involved in Nova haven't even looked at it.  The

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-01-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: And please don't get the idea that I'm complaining about the glance project itself, or how it is managed.  As far as I'm concerned, Jay and the other developers have done an excellent job with glance.  It is

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-01-31 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Devin Carlen devin.car...@gmail.com wrote: This has my support.  For our time frame and the goal of robustness and stability for the upcoming release, this is the most reasonable course of action. Seconded. -jay

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
2011/2/3 Diego Parrilla Santamaría diego.parrilla.santama...@gmail.com: it's a very interesting topic and I'm curious about the reason why you are using the Flat Networking set up. From the conversations in other threads it seems the Service Providers prefer different networking approaches:

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 February 2011 13:40 To: Armando Migliaccio Cc: Ewan Mellor; Andy Smith; Rick Clark; Søren Hansen; openstack@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Openstack] Network Service for L2/L3 Network Infrastructure blueprint

2011-02-03 Thread Jay Pipes
++ on all below points :) There are few bugs or blueprints that actually require a huge patch. Most things can be done in small chunks, making sure each chunk doesn't break tests... -jay On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Ewan Mellor

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-06 Thread Jay Pipes
Strongly disagree, but nicely, of course :) I'll disagree by showing you an example of why not having a queryable org model is problematic: Let's say we go ahead and do what Glen suggests and have a string account ID that is then attached to the user in a one to many relationship. In SQL (MySQL

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
From: openstack-bounces+sandy.walsh=rackspace@lists.launchpad.net [openstack-bounces+sandy.walsh=rackspace@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf of Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:57 AM To: John Purrier Cc: openstack

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
of organizational structures, that would be my ideal solution. -jay -Eric On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 09:57:56AM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: Strongly disagree, but nicely, of course :) I'll disagree by showing you an example of why not having a queryable org model is problematic: Let's say we go ahead and do

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Greg gh...@rackspace.com wrote: On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: What Swift APIs are available for a reseller to query which of its customer accounts have consumed X resources? Or does Swift punt and make the reseller calculate all those things

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
predict the performance issues up front and call it a day. Cheers, jay On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 08:50:28AM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: No, I think you've missed my point. Comments inline... Actually, I think I did get all your points

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
' columns on resources with an arbitrary mapping of entities per resource. What are some other specific queries that Nova or other projects need to make that you feel would be inefficient or would result in hacks? -Eric On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: I give up trying

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
be pushing events to an OpenStack firehose and let billing/audit tap into that, but of course I'll defer to the group decision. -Eric On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 03:22:06PM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: Perhaps we can be a bit more explicit about

Re: [Openstack] Pondering multi-tenant needs in nova.

2011-02-07 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Jorge Williams jorge.willi...@rackspace.com wrote: On Feb 7, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: What if I don't want to get my servers only? What if I want to list another organization's servers, and that organization's child organizations' servers? That sort

Re: [Openstack] Do these commands belong in the API or nova-manage?

2011-02-08 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: Quick question ... For multi-cluster/zones I have a bunch of commands that need to be exposed to administrators: 1. CRUD child zones 2. CRUD hosts to a zone 3. CRUD zone host capabilities to a zone Do you think

Re: [Openstack] Do these commands belong in the API or nova-manage?

2011-02-08 Thread Jay Pipes
diablo. On Feb 8, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: Quick question ... For multi-cluster/zones I have a bunch of commands that need to be exposed to administrators: 1. CRUD child zones 2. CRUD hosts to a zone 3

Re: [Openstack] Proposed OpenStack Service Requirements

2011-02-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: The email thread with the subject [RFC] OpenStack Programming Model Framework from Jan 3rd covered a few ground proposals for OpenStack projects, mainly with a focus on API. I'd like to expand on this a bit more. I think

Re: [Openstack] Proposed OpenStack Service Requirements

2011-02-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Aimon Bustardo abusta...@g2ix.com wrote: I have seen another thread on this also Multi Clusters in a Region . the URI based naming makes the most sense here and the actual name is each child is free-form but must conform to acceptable URI characters for

Re: [Openstack] Proposed OpenStack Service Requirements

2011-02-10 Thread Jay Pipes
OK, now I understand you a bit better about the URI naming scheme. Thanks for your explanation/clearing it up. Cheers! jay On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 08:00:02PM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: There is other common functionality we

Re: [Openstack] xen server agent code in nova?

2011-02-10 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Chris Behrens chris.behr...@rackspace.com wrote: Hi George, Would love to hear your ideas.   I appreciate any conversations that involve security and extensibility. :)  I have short term goals I need to hit, but I'm all for combining any duplicated efforts

Re: [Openstack] Stable and Development Trunks

2011-02-10 Thread Jay Pipes
I think this may have to do with confusion over what the release series on Launchpad are... The Bexar series is frozen at this point, and does not get any non-critical bug fixes or feature patches that have been going into the Cactus (trunk) series, unless a post-bexar-release exception is made

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-14 Thread Jay Pipes
The reason I haven't responded yet is because it's difficult for me to: diff -u some.pdf other.pdf In all seriousness, the wiki spec page says this about the differences in the 1.1 OpenStack API: ==start wiki== OS API 1.1 Features IPv6 Extensions Migrate to OpenStack namespace ==end wiki==

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Jorge Williams jorge.willi...@rackspace.com wrote: On Feb 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: I'll work with Anne to make the source documents available to you guys so you can do a diff etc.  Give me a couple of days to get this working, existing docs

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Gabe Westmaas gabe.westm...@rackspace.com wrote: Thanks Jay, I promise I will make more useful wikis soon :) Hehe, sorry if I came across as grumpy. Was just doing some old fashioned rib-poking, that's all ;) Jorge answered most of the questions you had, I just

Re: [Openstack] Multi-Cluster/Zone - Devil in the Details ...

2011-02-16 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote: On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Walsh wrote:        Isn't the instance name usually supplied by the user/originator? [Sorry, yes the instance name is passed in on the request, but the instance ID is what's needed (assuming

Re: [Openstack] Multi-Cluster/Zone - Devil in the Details ...

2011-02-16 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 03:59:10PM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: But, as I mentioned to Sandy on IRC, caching and performance should be a secondary concern. The primary concern, right now, is just making this all work. In other words

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1 ‹ server actions

2011-02-16 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Glen Campbell glen.campb...@rackspace.com wrote: The proposed compute API 1.1 has a specification for server actions (Sec. 4.4) with the endpoint:    /servers/{id}/action The actual action is specified as the body of the POST request, and the implication is

[Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-16 Thread Jay Pipes
Hey all, It's come to my attention that a number of folks are not happy that Nova's trunk branch (lp:nova) is, shall we say, less than stable. :) First, before going into some suggestions on keeping trunk more stable, I'd like to point out that trunk is, by nature, an actively developed source

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote: On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:18 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: That's really a corollary to this proposal: Being in nova-core means you have a review day once every N days (where N is the amount of (human) members of nova-core). As such, if

Re: [Openstack] Review days for nova-core members

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.com wrote: Not sure what the etiquette is for removing someone. Michael Gundlach is still listed but is no longer participating. I think these sorts of things can be resolved on the mailing list just fine. It's not a big deal

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Trey Morris trey.mor...@rackspace.com wrote: I don't like that it currently only runs on ubuntu + the ppa. If it doesn't work with existing versions I think we're doing something wrong. Even when natty comes out, I don't like the idea of having to ensure I have

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Trey Morris trey.mor...@rackspace.com wrote: sounds like a good plan to me :) Awesome. I'm glad you're taking the lead on this ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/720941 Cheers! jay ___ Mailing list:

Re: [Openstack] Monsyne Dragon requesting Core-Dev status for nova.

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
I would agree with Devin. Monsyne, I'd like to see some of your reviews before I give a thumbs up to nova-core. Please do participate in the review process so we've got a bit more to base a decision on. :) Of course, I may just be missing reviews you have done? If so, please don't hesitate to

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.com wrote: Jay, Thanks for throwing this out. How would we build this with Hudson? What would a standard deploy of Nova even look like for integration tests? I replied with some specifics to Trey, who had a similar question,

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
be a popular solution, but it would definitely put a stop to the lack of unit tests. On 2/16/11 4:27 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, It's come to my attention that a number of folks are not happy that Nova's trunk branch (lp:nova) is, shall we say, less than stable. :) First, before

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Justin Santa Barbara jus...@fathomdb.com wrote: Pulling volumes images out into separate services (and moving from AMQP to REST) sounds like a huge breaking change, so if that is indeed the plan, let's do that asap (i.e. Cactus). Sorry, I have to disagree with

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API 1.1

2011-02-17 Thread Jay Pipes
that stability is important.  I don't see how we can claim to deliver 'stability' when the plan is then immediately to destablize everything with a very disruptive change soon after, including customer facing API changes and massive internal re-architecting. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Jay Pipes

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-18 Thread Jay Pipes
This was an excellent explanation. Thank you, Thierry. -jay On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:55 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Trey Morris wrote: I don't like that it currently only runs on ubuntu + the ppa. If it doesn't work with existing versions I think we're doing something

Re: [Openstack] removing of code in contrib/puppet

2011-02-21 Thread Jay Pipes
I don't even know what NovaDeploymentTools is? Could you explain? -jay On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Ahmed El Gamil ah...@manhag.org wrote: Hi Christian, I agree, i don't think it can work nowadays. While i do agree that the Nova deployment tool is extra cool, i think that the Nova

Re: [Openstack] removing of code in contrib/puppet

2011-02-21 Thread Jay Pipes
/NovaDeploymentTool On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't even know what NovaDeploymentTools is? Could you explain? -jay On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Ahmed El Gamil ah...@manhag.org wrote: Hi Christian, I agree, i don't think it can work nowadays. While

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-21 Thread Jay Pipes
provioning, not vagrant.  The goal of the chef recipes is something that works for vagrant and physical deployments on real hardware. More work needs done on both deploying test clusters and testing them. Jesse On Feb 21, 2011 6:39 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011

Re: [Openstack] documentation of flags, introducing of a naming convention for flags

2011-02-22 Thread Jay Pipes
can of worms Just use optparse/argparse. paste.deploy handles configuration files already, which is where most flags should really be... gflags adds unneeded complexity for no real gains, IMHO. Swift and Glance do just fine without gflags, as do the vast majority of Python projects. As for

Re: [Openstack] Novatools ...

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
, but using the public API. Is this part of the longer term discussion (as we still need something now)? Yes, longer term discussion. -jay -S From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Why is there a need for more than 1 CLI tool? What is the point? I

Re: [Openstack] Novatools ...

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
=openstack@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Jay Pipes Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:20 PM To: Eric Day Cc: Josh Kearney; so...@openstack.org; Andy Smith; openstack@lists.launchpad.net; John Purrier; Rick Clark Subject: Re: [Openstack] Novatools ... On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Re: [Openstack] Should the OpenStack API re-use the EC2 credentials?

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
' relies on having good tests, but            I think we're getting there. *It's also great incentive to write            good smoke tests.         3. Jay: I believe you've done this to great success on the Drizzle            project?        Justin        On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Jay Pipes

Re: [Openstack] Novatools ...

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something, but I'm not sure what you mean by one API. Each project/service will be driving their own API, no? For example do you expect one CLI tool for swift, nova, and a queue service? I see John's

Re: [Openstack] Burrow (queue service)

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: Hi Sandy, On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 07:42:34PM +, Sandy Walsh wrote: Looks like a fun project Eric. I only got caught up on the ML this weekend and I'm behind again already. It's a never-ending battle. I find routing all

Re: [Openstack] Steps that can help stabilize Nova's trunk

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
Andy has listed a few things on the wiki. I'll summarize the known efforts here: * Anso has created some Vagrant scripts that test multi-node functionality of the EC2 API, libvirt + KVM, and nova-objectstore * Vishy/Devin have been refactored Nova's existing smoketests/ and updated to include

Re: [Openstack] Novatools ... where to place in /nova/?

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: Yup, this looks like the super tool that jay was talking of earlier (odd too, since that's something I'm using accused of being) I kind of like it as well, since it permits swift, nova and glance to have their own

Re: [Openstack] Should the OpenStack API re-use the EC2 credentials?

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Mark Washenberger mark.washenber...@rackspace.com wrote: This is what we're working on, and what Justin is proposing, Mark. Basically, in Drizzle-land, people propose a merge into trunk, Hudson picks up that proposal, pulls the brnach into lp:drizzle/staging,

Re: [Openstack] Novatools ...

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:45 PM, John Purrier john.purr...@rackspace.com wrote: We all knew you would come around, Jay! No-one wants you to lose your mind... Easy to do around here ;) -jay ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to

Re: [Openstack] Should the OpenStack API re-use the EC2 credentials?

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
   status in the test report.    On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote:      On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Mark Washenberger      mark.washenber...@rackspace.com wrote:       This is what we're working on, and what Justin is proposing, Mark

Re: [Openstack] Novatools ... where to place in /nova/?

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
...@gmail.com wrote: Unless the mailing lists are being even crazier than I think, I don't believe anybody has addressed any of the concerns I brought up in the novatools thread. Am I missing a set of emails or have you? --andy On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com

Re: [Openstack] Novatools ...

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Andy Smith andys...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Andy Smith andys...@gmail.com wrote: Well, my previous reply somehow isn't going through to the list... so... here

Re: [Openstack] Novatools ... where to place in /nova/?

2011-02-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Andy Smith andys...@gmail.com wrote: Please ignore the first clause of that email as it appears the message was indeed received. I still feel there is discussion about this (novatools) going on in the novatools thread. Yes, no doubt. Both of these threads are

[Openstack] Working on fixing code after a review? Please mark merge proposal Work In Progress!

2011-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
Hey all, The backlog on code reviews continues to mount: https://code.launchpad.net/nova/+activereviews One thing that would REALLY help reviewers is the following: If you receive one or more reviews that have asked for fixes to your branch (Needs Fixing), and you agree to these fixes, please

Re: [Openstack] Working on fixing code after a review? Please mark merge proposal Work In Progress!

2011-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Justin Santa Barbara jus...@fathomdb.com wrote: Good call Jay - I'll do my best to remember to do this! Why are branches with unmerged pre-reqs showing up in that list?  If reviewers are working from that list, that just seems to be creating extra work, which

Re: [Openstack] Working on fixing code after a review? Please mark merge proposal Work In Progress!

2011-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Salvatore Orlando salvatore.orla...@eu.citrix.com wrote: Is there at least a way for not showing branches which are not proposed for merge into lp:nova? Another excellent question. And unfortunately, no, there isn't :( I'll file it as a wishlist bug on

Re: [Openstack] Working on fixing code after a review? Please mark merge proposal Work In Progress!

2011-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
I have filed a bug with Launchpad that asks for enhancements for both of your issues: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/725163 Cheers! jay On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Salvatore Orlando salvatore.orla

Re: [Openstack] Availability of RHEL build of Bexar release of OpenStack Nova

2011-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
I'm assuming we're adding this to the openstack.org Hudson setup? -jay On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Jesse Andrews anotherje...@gmail.com wrote: Great work! Vishy and termie got jenkins launching ubuntu+kvm and running smoke tests. There are a few isssues left but I'm excited to increase

[Openstack] UPDATE on Active reviews - filtered by target branch

2011-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi all, especially Salvatore and Armando, The Launchpad team responded to my feature request. You can see active reviews for a specific branch using the following: https://code.launchpad.net/BRANCH/+activereviews Therefore, to see only the active reviews for the Nova trunk, you can use this:

Re: [Openstack] UPDATE on Active reviews - filtered by target branch

2011-02-25 Thread Jay Pipes
a feature request and possibly just a launchpad help request, is there a way to sort my open merge proposals by most recent activity? Last modified seems to only apply to changes pushed to the branch, not comments made on the merge prop. --andy On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi

Re: [Openstack] Working on fixing code after a review? Please mark merge proposal Work In Progress!

2011-02-26 Thread Jay Pipes
to the wiki page you were putting together about reviewing? I'll add some thoughts to that. -jay -Original Message- From: openstack-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Jay Pipes Sent: 25 February

Re: [Openstack] Using useful commit messages while merging code into trunk

2011-02-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Christian Berendt bere...@b1-systems.de wrote: We should always set a correct commit message in the merge propsal and we should don't merge code with useless commit messages. ++ :) -jay ___ Mailing list:

Re: [Openstack] server affinity

2011-02-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Brian Lamar brian.la...@rackspace.com wrote: Just because I can't help but asking, when does data specified during instance creation stop being data and start being metadata? While it seems like a silly question I'm wrestling with the idea of metadata actually

Re: [Openstack] server affinity

2011-02-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: for those of a like-minded curiosity about these things. From the wikipedia article on this same subject: The term Metadata is an ambiguous term which is used for two fundamentally different concepts (Types). Although

Re: [Openstack] How to deal with 'tangential' bugs?

2011-02-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com wrote: If the “known_bugs” list isn’t being well received, how about this: # TODO(ewanm): Enable once bug #21212 is fixed if False:     assert(something) And then put a comment on bug #21212 saying “please also

Re: [Openstack] Entities in OpenStack Auth

2011-03-03 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Monsyne Dragon mdra...@rackspace.com wrote: On 3/1/11 6:32 PM, Justin Santa Barbara wrote: 2) Preclude us from having e.g. multi-project queries (show me all my servers in projects A and B)? It doesn't really preclude multi-account queries, if they are needed. 

Re: [Openstack] Management API

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Glen, I've read through the wiki page and although I think the individual commands are worthy commands to add to the API, I don't see why this is all being bunched into (yet another) API. I think if you broke out these commands into individual blueprints: * Contributors could have already

Re: [Openstack] Entities in OpenStack Auth

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Eric, interesting proposal. Comments inline. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: For that query you would, but not all. If you want to create a new instance for project1 you would: nova.openstack.org/v1.1/project1/servers Or if you wanted to reboot instance

Re: [Openstack] Gzip Compression

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Brian Lamar brian.la...@rackspace.com wrote: Part of the API specification says that the OpenStack API supports gzip compression in requests and responses. I have an extremely simple WSGI middleware implementation of this finished, but it does not support

Re: [Openstack] OS API server password generation

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
Does anyone else feel it's a bit late to be targeting new blueprints for Cactus since we're 2 weeks from branch merge proposal freeze? http://wiki.openstack.org/CactusReleaseSchedule -jay On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Dan Prince dan.pri...@rackspace.com wrote: We created a blueprint on

Re: [Openstack] State of OpenStack Auth

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Michael Mayo m...@openstack.org wrote: Here are my thoughts, as a client developer: 1. Hit auth server first for token, then hit compute and storage endpoints This is fairly simple, but there are a couple of problems with it: a. It's not very curl or browser

Re: [Openstack] State of OpenStack Auth

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Michael Mayo m...@openstack.org wrote: I was thinking more of a sniff someone's traffic and perform those same requests again sort of attack.  But then again, I'm an iPhone guy and not a security expert :) In the end, I'm simply advocating that we reduce the

Re: [Openstack] Multiple Versions in Openstack API

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Eric Day e...@oddments.org wrote: We should support old versions. The API layers should be a very thin layer over what the Nova internal API provides, so even if we have v1.0, v1.1, etc. subdirectories in the API and do full code copying, it should be a fairly

Re: [Openstack] OS API server password generation

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
:) -jay Dan -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 4, 2011 10:27am To: Dan Prince dan.pri...@rackspace.com Cc: Openstack openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] OS API server password generation Does anyone else feel it's a bit

Re: [Openstack] Multiple Versions in Openstack API

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
currently does for update(), delete(), and create(): def create(self, req): Creates a new Shared IP group raise faults.Fault(exc.HTTPNotImplemented()) -jay Waldon -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 4, 2011 1:20pm To: Brian

Re: [Openstack] Multiple Versions in Openstack API

2011-03-04 Thread Jay Pipes
from me there... my code was to spark some discussion, not necessarily to be the end result :) -jay Waldon -Original Message- From: Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 4, 2011 2:08pm To: Brian Waldon brian.wal...@rackspace.com Cc: Brian Lamar brian.la...@rackspace.com

Re: [Openstack] Set your merge proposals to Work In Progress while you address fixes

2011-03-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Jay Pipes wrote: Hi all! It's that time of the release cycle again... as of this writing we have 38 *active* merge proposals for Nova: https://code.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/nova/trunk/+activereviews

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