[openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I have begun to draft some specifics about the sorts of policies that might be added to infrastructure to inform a smart unified placement engine. These are cast as an extension to Heat templates. See https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/PolicyExtension . Comments solicited. Regards,

Re: [openstack-dev] A simple way to improve nova scheduler

2013-09-27 Thread Soren Hansen
2013/9/26 Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com: Yes, when moving beyond simple flavours, the idea as initially proposed falls apart. I see two ways to fix that: * Don't move beyond simple flavours. Seriously. Amazon have been pretty darn succesful with just their simple instance types. Who

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Should file injection work for boot from volume images?

2013-09-27 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: Looks good, my only question is on how we signal the translation team that we're breaking string freeze for this, or even if we have a mechanism for that. It's documented at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StringFreeze At this point you shoud raise a thread on the ML (with

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Case sensitivity backend databases

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Haferkamp
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:02:22AM -0500, Brant Knudson wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Ralf Haferkamp rha...@suse.de wrote: [..] My recommendation is that Keystone should get away from dealing with creating/updating users to avoid reinventing the wheel (and making a wheel that's

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Stephen Gran
On 27/09/13 07:58, Mike Spreitzer wrote: I have begun to draft some specifics about the sorts of policies that might be added to infrastructure to inform a smart unified placement engine. These are cast as an extension to Heat templates. See

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] PTL candidacy

2013-09-27 Thread Edward Hope-Morley
+1 Duncan has always been helpful and insightful as well as seeming keen to maintain good standards within the project and while the competition is strong I am happy to support Duncan's candidacy. On 26/09/13 16:44, Duncan Thomas wrote: I would like to run for election as Cinder PTL for the

Re: [openstack-dev] Help us reduce gate resets by being specific about bugs being found

2013-09-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/09/13 16:49, Sean Dague wrote: As many folks know, gerrit takes comments of either the form recheck bug #X or recheck no bug To kick off the check queue jobs again to handle flakey tests. The problem is that we're getting a lot more no bug than bugs at this point. If a failure

Re: [openstack-dev] VM instances Can not connect to external

2013-09-27 Thread Ashok Kumaran
You have IP forwarding enabled? Did you create br-ex bridge and associated the external as a port to it? On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jeff Cai jeff_...@symantec.com wrote: Hi, ** ** I set up openstack environment on Ubuntu 12.0.4 with 3 nodes according to the starter guide on

Re: [openstack-dev] flaky tempest -- Top Offenders

2013-09-27 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/26/2013 09:41 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: Hi All, As many of you may have suspected the gate has gotten less stable in the past few days. Turns out we have the numbers to prove it too!

Re: [openstack-dev] VM instances Can not connect to external

2013-09-27 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jeff Cai wrote: I did all that the doc tells me to do, which includes [...] Jeff: This sounds like a usage question / support request. The openstack-dev mailing-list is focused on development discussions for the future of OpenStack, not on answering calls for help on how to use OpenStack. You

Re: [openstack-dev] VM instances Can not connect to external

2013-09-27 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thierry Carrez wrote: Jeff Cai wrote: I did all that the doc tells me to do, which includes [...] Jeff: This sounds like a usage question / support request. The openstack-dev mailing-list is focused on development discussions for the future of OpenStack, not on answering calls for help

Re: [openstack-dev] VM instances Can not connect to external

2013-09-27 Thread Jeff Cai
Thierry, Maybe you are right. But I guess most experienced people are here and some question are just piece of cake for them. And additionally, I saw may threads having subjects like 'How to...'. Jeff -Original Message- From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thie...@openstack.org] Sent: Friday,

Re: [openstack-dev] VM instances Can not connect to external

2013-09-27 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jeff Cai wrote: Maybe you are right. But I guess most experienced people are here and some question are just piece of cake for them. Well, that's the problem. We have been separating traffic between two lists based on the topic of the discussions, to reduce noise for subscribers. This may be

Re: [openstack-dev] VM instances Can not connect to external

2013-09-27 Thread Yongsheng Gong
have u enable the port interface of br-ex? For example ifconfig eth1 up On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Jeff Cai jeff_...@symantec.com wrote: I did all that the doc tells me to do, which includes setting up a bridge in the network node. ** ** Just like

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [scheduler] Bringing things together for Icehouse (now featuring software orchestration)

2013-09-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/09/13 07:03, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Zane wrote: To take the first example, wouldn't your holistic scheduler effectively have to reserve a compute instance and some directly attached block storage prior to actually creating them? Have you considered Climate rather than Heat as an

Re: [openstack-dev] gerrit URL queries I've been finding useful

2013-09-27 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/26/2013 02:11 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: Just in case these help anyone, I've make a couple of bookmarks to a couple of queries that have really been helping me deal with both my patches, and things I need to review. First of all:

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Stephen Gran stephen.g...@theguardian.com wrote on 09/27/2013 04:26:37 AM: Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I'm not convinced all that logic belongs in Heat. I would expect nova and related components to expose grouping information (availability zones in nova, networks in

[openstack-dev] Gate issues - what you can do to help

2013-09-27 Thread Sean Dague
Right now the gate is extremely full, there are a number of reasons for that. What's more important right now is to try not to make it worse while we get resolution on things. 1) Please *do not* Approve or Reverify stable/* patches. The pyparsing requirements conflict with neutron client from

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 27/09/13 08:58, Mike Spreitzer wrote: I have begun to draft some specifics about the sorts of policies that might be added to infrastructure to inform a smart unified placement engine. These are cast as an extension to Heat templates. See

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [scheduler] Bringing things together for Icehouse (now featuring software orchestration)

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 09/27/2013 08:24:49 AM: Your diagrams clearly show scheduling happening in a separate stage to (infrastructure) orchestration, which is to say that at the point where resources are scheduled, their actual creation is in the *future*. I am not a

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [scheduler] Bringing things together for Icehouse (now featuring software orchestration)

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Sorry, I was a bit too hasty in writing the last part of my last message; I forgot to qualify software orchestration to indicate I am speaking only of its preparatory phase. I should have written: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 09/27/2013 08:24:49 AM: ... If I understood your

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Stephen Gran
On 27/09/13 14:27, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Stephen Gran stephen.g...@theguardian.com wrote on 09/27/2013 04:26:37 AM: I think that your use case for anti-collocation (which is a very good and important use case, don't get me wrong) is covered by using availability zones/cells/regions and

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna-dashboard] version 0.3 - updated UI mockups for EDP workflow

2013-09-27 Thread Liz Blanchard
On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Nikita Konovalov nkonova...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi Liz, Thank you for your comments. Your concern about the case when more than three tabs appear sounds reasonable. When we started to build a dashboard for Savanna, we wanted it to be easy to install into

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [scheduler] Bringing things together for Icehouse

2013-09-27 Thread Debojyoti Dutta
Hi Mike We understand your point, and, academically, we agree to a large extent. We aware of the optimization results for holistic placement etc (and how any realistic formulation is hard). When we look at the scheduler today, it does one thing at a time because it was meant to be pragmatic when

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-09-27 06:58:40 -0700: On 27/09/13 08:58, Mike Spreitzer wrote: I have begun to draft some specifics about the sorts of policies that might be added to infrastructure to inform a smart unified placement engine. These are cast as an extension to

[openstack-dev] [Pecan] is now on StackForge

2013-09-27 Thread Ryan Petrello
Hey Everyone, I'd like to announce that the Pecan project (http://pecanpy.org) has been moved to StackForge. For those who are unfamiliar, Pecan is a lightweight WSGI framework that's being used in a handful of OpenStack core and ancillary projects, such as Ceilometer, Ironic, and Tuskar.

[openstack-dev] PTL Voting is now open

2013-09-27 Thread Anita Kuno
Elections are underway and will remain open for you to cast your vote until at least 11:59 UTC October 3, 2013. We are having elections for Cinder, Heat and Horizon. If you are a Foundation individual member and had a commit in one of the program projects over the Grizzly-Havana timeframe

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Stephen Gran stephen.g...@theguardian.com wrote on 09/27/2013 10:46:09 AM: If the admins of the openstack install wanted users to be able to select placement by rack, surely the availability zones would be rack1 - rack5 ? In this case, the user would write: Resources : { MyASG

Re: [openstack-dev] PTL Voting is now open

2013-09-27 Thread John Griffith
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote: Elections are underway and will remain open for you to cast your vote until at least 11:59 UTC October 3, 2013. We are having elections for Cinder, Heat and Horizon. If you are a Foundation individual member and had a

[openstack-dev] [metrics] New metrics navigator and data sources

2013-09-27 Thread Daniel Izquierdo
Hi! We've been working in a new look and feel for the metrics dash, and that would be awesome if we get some feedback from you :). Please, take into account that this is still work in progress... so there are a lot of missing details. The current version of the dash can be found at [1],

Re: [openstack-dev] PTL Voting is now open

2013-09-27 Thread Anita Kuno
I had thought that the emails would be sent by now but they have not. I have an issue with the format of the files I was using to upload the emails. Working on a solution now. Thanks for your patience. Anita. On 09/27/2013 01:37 PM, John Griffith wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:12

[openstack-dev] Nova Migrate/Resize Libvirt Methods

2013-09-27 Thread Solly Ross
Hello Fellow OpenStackers, I was working on a bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975014) involving the Nova resize functionality in the libvirt driver. So, it turns out that the bug is caused by nova code trying to ssh directly into another compute node. Since it was not

Re: [openstack-dev] PTL Voting is now open

2013-09-27 Thread Anita Kuno
I do believe the issue with the format of the voters lists has been addressed and emails have now been sent. Sorry for the false start. It seems if there is a wrong way to do things, I always manage to find it. Please check your spam folder for your email ballot url before emailing me if

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 09/27/2013 11:58:16 AM: From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 09/27/2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics ... Mike, These are not the kinds of

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane also raised an important point about value. Any scheduler is serving one master most directly, the cloud provider. Any sane cloud provider has some interest in serving the interests of the cloud users, as well as having some concerns of its own. The way my group has resolved this is in

[openstack-dev] [neutron] [ml2] Next week's ML2 meeting

2013-09-27 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
Hi! Next week at our regularly scheduled ML2 meeting [1] Wednesday at 1400 UTC we'll be spending the majority of the meeting brainstorming topics for the Icehouse Design Summit. I've added this to the agenda [2] with a couple of high-level items that have already come up. If you have ideas for

Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler] [heat] Policy specifics

2013-09-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-09-27 11:51:20 -0700: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 09/27/2013 11:58:16 AM: From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 09/27/2013 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [scheduler]

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Re: [openstack-dev] Gate issues - what you can do to help

2013-09-27 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/28/2013 12:08 AM, Gareth wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: Right now the gate is extremely full, there are a number of reasons for that. What's more important right now is to try not to make it worse