Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-07 Thread Kevin Benton
I think we will probably end up having to support the direct pass through anyway. The reason that landed in the spec is because someone claimed they had switches that couldn't do translation very well. We will just need volunteers to make the changes required on the Neutron side. On Wed, Dec 7,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-07 Thread Vasyl Saienko
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > >It work only when whole switch is aimed by single customer, it will not > work when several customers sharing the same switch. > > Do you know what vendors have this limitation? I know the broadcom > chipsets didn't prevent

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-07 Thread Kevin Benton
>It work only when whole switch is aimed by single customer, it will not work when several customers sharing the same switch. Do you know what vendors have this limitation? I know the broadcom chipsets didn't prevent this (we allowed VLAN rewrites scoped to ports at Big Switch). If it's common to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-07 Thread Vasyl Saienko
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Vasyl Saienko > wrote: > >> @Armando: IMO the spec [0] is not about enablement of Trunks and >> baremetal. This spec is rather about trying to make user request

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-07 Thread Kevin Benton
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Vasyl Saienko wrote: > @Armando: IMO the spec [0] is not about enablement of Trunks and > baremetal. This spec is rather about trying to make user request with any > network configuration (number of requested NICs) to be able successfully >

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-07 Thread Vasyl Saienko
@Armando: IMO the spec [0] is not about enablement of Trunks and baremetal. This spec is rather about trying to make user request with any network configuration (number of requested NICs) to be able successfully deployed on ANY ironic node (even when number of hardware interfaces is less than

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-07 Thread Kevin Benton
Just to be clear, in this case the switches don't support VLAN translation (e.g. [1])? Because that also solves the problem you are running into. This is the preferable path for bare metal because it avoids exposing provider details to users and doesn't tie you to VLANs on the backend. 1.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-07 Thread Armando M.
On 7 December 2016 at 04:02, Vasyl Saienko wrote: > Armando, Kevin, > > Thanks for your comments. > > To be more clear we are trying to use neutron trunks implementation with > baremetal servers (Ironic). Baremetal servers are plugged to Tor (Top of > the Rack) switch.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-07 Thread Vasyl Saienko
Armando, Kevin, Thanks for your comments. To be more clear we are trying to use neutron trunks implementation with baremetal servers (Ironic). Baremetal servers are plugged to Tor (Top of the Rack) switch. User images are spawned directly onto hardware. Ironic uses Neutron ML2 drivers to plug

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-06 Thread Armando M.
On 6 December 2016 at 08:49, Vasyl Saienko wrote: > Hello Neutron Community, > > > I've found that nice feature vlan-aware-vms was implemented in Newton [0]. > However the usage of this feature for regular users is impossible, unless > I'm missing something. > > As I

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-06 Thread Kevin Benton
The segmentation type of the trunk (how the VM attached to the parent port sees the traffic) has nothing to do with the provider segmentation details (how the traffic will be encapsulated when it leaves the compute node). You're right that a normal user won't know the latter details, but they

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Vlan aware VMs or trunking

2016-12-06 Thread Vasyl Saienko
Hello Neutron Community, I've found that nice feature vlan-aware-vms was implemented in Newton [0]. However the usage of this feature for regular users is impossible, unless I'm missing something. As I understood correctly it should work in the following way: 1. It is possible to group

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] VLAN aware VMs: Current status?

2015-08-05 Thread Ildikó Váncsa
: [openstack-dev] [neutron] VLAN aware VMs: Current status? I'm sending this email to solicit a response from the owners of the VLAN aware VMs spec [1] [2]. The spec was merged on June 24, and I haven't seen any code posted. Given I expect this to take some iterations in review, is the plan

[openstack-dev] [neutron] VLAN aware VMs: Current status?

2015-07-30 Thread Kyle Mestery
I'm sending this email to solicit a response from the owners of the VLAN aware VMs spec [1] [2]. The spec was merged on June 24, and I haven't seen any code posted. Given I expect this to take some iterations in review, is the plan to push code for this sometime soon? Thanks! Kyle [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN-aware VMs meeting

2015-06-15 Thread Ildikó Váncsa
Hi Kyle, -Original Message- From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mest...@mestery.com] Sent: June 15, 2015 04:26 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN-aware VMs meeting On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ildikó Váncsa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN-aware VMs meeting

2015-06-15 Thread Kyle Mestery
] [Neutron] VLAN-aware VMs meeting On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ildikó Váncsa ildiko.van...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi, Since we reopened the review for this blueprint we’ve got a large number of comments. It can be clearly seen that the original proposal has

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN-aware VMs meeting

2015-06-15 Thread Ildikó Váncsa
-Original Message- From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mest...@mestery.com] Sent: June 15, 2015 15:52 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN-aware VMs meeting On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Ildikó Váncsa ildiko.van...@ericsson.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN-aware VMs meeting

2015-06-14 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ildikó Váncsa ildiko.van...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi, Since we reopened the review for this blueprint we’ve got a large number of comments. It can be clearly seen that the original proposal has to be changed, although it still requires some discussion to

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN-aware VMs meeting

2015-06-12 Thread Ildikó Váncsa
Hi, Since we reopened the review for this blueprint we've got a large number of comments. It can be clearly seen that the original proposal has to be changed, although it still requires some discussion to define a reasonable design that provides the desired feature and is aligned with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-11-04 Thread Yi Sun
port to Neutron. Yi From: Erik Moe [mailto:emoe...@gmail.com javascript:;] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:56 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org javascript:; Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-11-04 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible for tenant VMs to use VLAN tagged traffic to connect to different Neutron networks. The VID on frames sent/received will determine which Neutron network the frames are connected to. https

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-11-04 Thread Erik Moe
From: Erik Moe [mailto:emoe...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:56 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible for tenant VMs to use VLAN tagged traffic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-11-04 Thread Yi Sun
a trunk port and the vlan on a trunk port to Neutron. Yi From: Erik Moe [mailto:emoe...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:56 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-11-04 Thread Isaku Yamahata
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible for tenant VMs to use VLAN tagged traffic to connect to different Neutron networks. The VID on frames sent/received will determine which Neutron network

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Erik Moe
Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible for tenant VMs to use VLAN tagged traffic to connect to different Neutron networks. The VID on frames sent/received will determine which Neutron network the frames are connected to. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread beyounn
. Yi From: Erik Moe [mailto:emoe...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:56 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible for tenant VMs to use VLAN tagged traffic to connect to different

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
port and the vlan on a trunk port to Neutron. Yi From: Erik Moe [mailto:emoe...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:56 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible for tenant VMs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Isaku Yamahata
-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible for tenant VMs to use VLAN tagged traffic to connect to different Neutron networks. The VID on frames sent/received will determine which Neutron network the frames are connected to. https

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Erik Moe
we should present a trunk port and the vlan on a trunk port to Neutron. Yi From: Erik Moe [mailto:emoe...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:56 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs

2013-10-28 Thread Yi Sun
@lists.openstack.org'); Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN aware VMs Hi! We are looking into how to make it possible for tenant VMs to use VLAN tagged traffic to connect to different Neutron networks. The VID on frames sent/received will determine which Neutron network the frames