Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 19/06/17 11:33 -0500, Sean McGinnis wrote: [snip] Who else would like to volunteer to help? The help needed is not so much on fixing bugs but rather reviewing the patches that fix bugs and help moving the release forward. I hope the community will grow soonish so that we can go back to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

[snip] > Who else would like to volunteer to help? > > The help needed is not so much on fixing bugs but rather reviewing the patches > that fix bugs and help moving the release forward. I hope the community will > grow soonish so that we can go back to the regular core team. > > Flavio > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 13/06/17 09:50 -0500, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 13/06/17 10:49 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Quick attempt at a summary of the discussion so far, with my questions: * Short-term, Glance needs help to stay afloat - Sean volunteered to help - but glance needs to add core reviewers to get stuff

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 13/06/17 10:49 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Quick attempt at a summary of the discussion so far, with my questions: * Short-term, Glance needs help to stay afloat - Sean volunteered to help - but glance needs to add core reviewers to get stuff flowing -> could the VM/BM workgroup also help

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

Quick attempt at a summary of the discussion so far, with my questions: * Short-term, Glance needs help to stay afloat - Sean volunteered to help - but glance needs to add core reviewers to get stuff flowing -> could the VM/BM workgroup also help ? Any progress there ? * Long-term, is Glance

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 06/12/2017 01:50 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Glance can be very exciting if one focuses on the interesting bits and it's an *AWESOME* place where new comers can start contributing, new developers can learn and practice, etc. That said, I believe that code doesn't have to be challenging to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 4:43 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 19:47 Mikhail Fedosin wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Flavio Percoco >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/06/17 23:20 +0300, Mikhail Fedosin wrote: >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

I take a week off and look at what happens ... Sorry for top-posting, but I just have some general comments. Mike raises some good points, but I think it's too late in the cycle to swap Glance out for Glare and expect everything to work properly. (I don't mean to imply anything about the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 19:47 Mikhail Fedosin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Flavio Percoco > wrote: > >> On 12/06/17 23:20 +0300, Mikhail Fedosin wrote: >> >>> My opinion is that Glance stagnates and it's really hard to implement new >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 12/06/17 23:20 +0300, Mikhail Fedosin wrote: > >> My opinion is that Glance stagnates and it's really hard to implement new >> features there. In two years, only one major improvement was developed >> (Image Import

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 19:25 Mike Perez wrote: > On 16:01 Jun 12, Flavio Percoco wrote: > > On 12/06/17 23:20 +0300, Mikhail Fedosin wrote: > > > My opinion is that Glance stagnates and it's really hard to implement > new > > > features there. In two years, only one major

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 16:01 Jun 12, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 12/06/17 23:20 +0300, Mikhail Fedosin wrote: > > My opinion is that Glance stagnates and it's really hard to implement new > > features there. In two years, only one major improvement was developed > > (Image Import Refactoring), and no one has tested it

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 12/06/17 23:20 +0300, Mikhail Fedosin wrote: My opinion is that Glance stagnates and it's really hard to implement new features there. In two years, only one major improvement was developed (Image Import Refactoring), and no one has tested it in production yet. And this is in the heyday of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

Well... My suggestion is to keep Glance maintained and begin experimental adoption of Glare. So this is not an immediate replacement, but the evolution of the Image service. My opinion is that Glance stagnates and it's really hard to implement new features there. In two years, only one major

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 12/06/17 15:37 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/12/2017 03:20 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Could you please elaborate more on why you think switching code bases is going to solve the current problem? In your email you talked about Glance's over-engineered code as being the thing driving people

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 06/12/2017 03:20 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > Could you please elaborate more on why you think switching code bases is > going > to solve the current problem? In your email you talked about Glance's > over-engineered code as being the thing driving people away and while I > disagree > with that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 12/06/17 16:56 +0300, Mikhail Fedosin wrote: Hello! Flavio raised a very difficult and important question, and I think that we, as community members, should decide what to do with Glance next. Hi Mike, I will try to state my subjective opinion. I was involved in the Glance project for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

Just quick comment here on my day off. I will get proper reply to the chain itself tomorrow when I'm back. While I cannot argue with all Mike's points below, I personally cannot stand behind his proposals here and just want to indicate that this is view of one member, not the Glance community by

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

Hello! Flavio raised a very difficult and important question, and I think that we, as community members, should decide what to do with Glance next. I will try to state my subjective opinion. I was involved in the Glance project for almost three years and studied it fairly plank. I believe that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 12/06/17 09:13 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/09/2017 01:07 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Would it be possible to get help w/ reviews from folks from teams like nova/cinder/keystone? Any help is welcomed, of course, but I'm trying to think about teams that may be familiar with the Glance

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

On 06/09/2017 01:07 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > (sorry if duplicate, having troubles with email) > > Hi Team, > > I've been working a bit with the Glance team and trying to help where I > can and > I can't but be worried about the critical status of the Glance team. > Unfortunately, the number

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

Flavio Percoco wrote: > I've been working a bit with the Glance team and trying to help where I > can and I can't but be worried about the critical status of the Glance team. > Unfortunately, the number of participants in the Glance team has been > reduced a lot resulting in the project not being

[openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

(sorry if duplicate, having troubles with email) Hi Team, I've been working a bit with the Glance team and trying to help where I can and I can't but be worried about the critical status of the Glance team. Unfortunately, the number of participants in the Glance team has been reduced a lot