[openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

Greetings, Some of you, TC candidates, expressed concerns about diversity and inclusiveness (or inclusivity, depending on your taste) in your candidacy. I believe this is a broad, and some times ill-used, topic so, I'd like to know, from y'all, how you think we could make our community more

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

Zane, Thanks for raising the discussion. We recently discuss a lot about what's OpenStack, what OpenStack Foundation should be. I would like to list some discussion I involved before [1]. OpenSack affects following people and organizations. we should consider when we make decisions. *Q1: Who

[openstack-dev] [telemetry][ceilometer][opendaylight] OpenDaylight Driver for Ceilometer

Hello, I have been looking into the Opendaylight driver for Ceilometer and according to what i have been able to read and test, this driver was made for ODL version Hydrogen. I conclude this by looking into the way the request is made to the controller (port and URL). I am considering

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][infra] Zuul v3 rollout, the sequel

On 10/10/17 3:40 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > The common jobs have been fixed whenever bugs got reported. So, if you > have current failures, tell us. How can projects validate zuul v3 jobs in our current state to prepare for the transition? Some projects don't even have a verified zuul v3 patch

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

One thing I wish the TC could do more in the past years is that make users and developers in the same page: share requirements, pain points and development progress, glad we have some ways to shorten the feedback loop like building SIG(Special Interest Group) to involve more users. 2017-10-13

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

Several changes seems very well in the past months, for me the "top 5 help wanted list" [1] is really helpful. It's introduced in [2] and with some follow ups. This document lists areas where the OpenStack Technical Committee seeks contributions to significantly help OpenStack as a whole. In

Re: [openstack-dev] [telemetry][ceilometer][opendaylight] OpenDaylight Driver for Ceilometer

Hi Andrez, I had introduced a new driver for ODL in Pike release[1] The driver code is available in networking-odl project: networking_odl/ceilometer/network/statistics/opendaylight_v2 The corresponding ODL code is under development. [1] Spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475241/ Thanks,

[openstack-dev] [nova] [placement] resource providers update 38

This is update 38. It is confused because last week's update said in the subject that is was 36 but in the body that it was 37. It was 37. # Most Important Most important is simply making progress on the stuff that's outstanding. There's enough in progress, with its related dependencies, we

[openstack-dev] [tc] Technical Committee Status update, October 13th

Hi! This is the weekly summary of Technical Committee initiatives. You can find the full list of all open topics (updated twice a week) at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Technical_Committee_Tracker If you are working on something (or plan to work on something) that is not on the tracker, feel

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

There is one topic I have been pretty vocal about wanting the TC to deal with - encouraging cross project teams (Docs / QA etc) to start migrating to providing tooling, rather than direct services to projects. I am aware I am (re)opening a can of worms, but I think as a community we have started

[openstack-dev] [masakari] Propose changes of the core team

Hi All Masakari Cores, I would like to propose following changes to Masakari core team. Current core team: Masahito Muroi Rikimaru Honjo Sampath Priyankara (samP) Takashi Kajinami Toshikazu Ichikawa Tushar Patil Yukinori Sagara (A) Proposed to remove from Core team: (1) Toshikazu Ichikawa He

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] How is the interface for tftpboot server typically configured on OVS ?

There are multiple options for doing this, but I suggest avoiding manually plumbing anything into OVS as it can lead to some nastiness in the future. My personal recommended way to do this is to create the provisioning network in neutron with a known VLAN and trunk it separately down to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

On 12/10/17 17:51, Zane Bitter wrote: > (Reminder: we are in the TC election campaigning period, and we all have > the opportunity to question the candidates. The campaigning period ends > on Saturday, so make with the questions.) > > > In my head, I have a mental picture of who I'm building

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

Clay, Great question and one that made me think quite a bit. I believe that while the commits in the Governance repo represent the visible actions of the TC, the real leadership ability of the TC is often in the actions that it inspires in people in the community. The TC is a body that has to

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2017-10-13 14:45:28 +0200: > Greetings, > > Some of you, TC candidates, expressed concerns about diversity and > inclusiveness > (or inclusivity, depending on your taste) in your candidacy. I believe this > is a > broad, and some times ill-used, topic

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:43 PM Clay Gerrard wrote: > I like a representative democracy. It mostly means I get a say in which > other people I have to trust to think deeply about issues which effect me > and make decisions which I agree (more or less) are of benefit to

Re: [openstack-dev] [octavia] how to list/find the amphoras serving a load balancer

Hi Mihaela, Welcome to the Octavia club! In an Ocata release you are correct that there is no API way to identify amphora related to a given load balancer. In the queens release we have introduced a new administrator API for amphora that provides the functionality you are looking for:

[openstack-dev] [puppet] Proposing Alfredo Moralejo core on puppet-openstack-integration

Alfredo has been doing an incredible work on maintaining Puppet OpenStack CI; by always testing OpenStack from trunk and taking care of issues. He has been involved in fixing the actual CI problems in OpenStack projects but also maintaining puppet-openstack-integration repository in a consistent

[openstack-dev] [ceilometer] Time for API removal?

Hey there, We deprecated the Ceilometer API last year (Ocata) and our latest user survery shows than more than 50% of our users are now using Gnocchi or something else than the old deprecated storage methods. I'm starting to think it's time to stop carrying this dead code around. The biggest

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] Time for API removal?

adding ops list On 2017-10-13 11:01 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > Hey there, > > We deprecated the Ceilometer API last year (Ocata) and our latest user > survery shows than more than 50% of our users are now using Gnocchi or > something else than the old deprecated storage methods. thanks to all

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

On 13/10/17 13:45, Flavio Percoco wrote: > Greetings, > > Some of you, TC candidates, expressed concerns about diversity and > inclusiveness > (or inclusivity, depending on your taste) in your candidacy. I believe > this is a > broad, and some times ill-used, topic so, I'd like to know, from

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:38 PM Ed Leafe wrote: > In the past year or so, has there been anything that made you think “I > wish the TC would do something about that!” ? If so, what was it, and what > would you have wanted the TC to do about it? > I really appreciate the work

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

Zane, thanks for the question. Let me answer from the perspective of an OpenStack user (I work for Verizon) and from a developer (both now, and in the past as part of Tesora). OpenStack has multiple different users: - Deployers: People who deploy OpenStack and operate a cloud environment. -

[openstack-dev] [Swift] SPDK uses Swift as a target system to support k-v store

Hi, all I am a newcomer in Swift, I have proposed a proposal for k-v store in the SPDK community. The proposal has submitted on https://trello.com/b/P5xBO7UR/things-to-do , please spare some time to visit it. In this proposal, we would like to

Re: [openstack-dev] [masakari] Propose changes of the core team

Not a core but contributes to Masakari. (A) Proposed to remove from Core team: (1) Toshikazu Ichikawa I think we should also consider Toshikazu Ichikawa San in "Confirm your availability as Core member". B) Confirm your availability as Core member: Following members,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][infra] Zuul v3 rollout, the sequel returns

The legacy-trove-functional-dsvm-mysql and legacy-trove-legacy-functional-dsvm-mysql jobs are running the wrong post_test_hook and have the trove-integration project in $PROJECTS. As such they will always vote -1. The functional integration tests moved into Trove proper in Ocata. I've added more

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

FeiLong, Thanks for raising the pain points as a non-English native speaker. I had similar experience with you in last 5 years. Language, timezone, culture are the common barriers for diversity and inclusiveness. We could identify what's the biggest obstacles for contributors to contribute

[openstack-dev] [glance] priorities for the week (10/13-10/19)

Hello Glancers, The Q-1 milestone is just around the corner. As discussed at the weekly Glance meeting, the review priorities for this week are: 1 patches associated with Q-1 milestone targeted bugs https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/queens-1 2 patches associated with Q-1 targeted

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

Hi Flavio, I would like to refer to another thread about areas the TC should be more active in raised by Ed Leafe where trust and mentorship were brought up by a few of us. I think one of the key factors of being open and inclusive is to help and mentor new contributors/community members

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder]How to handle the Jenkins running after patch cherry picked to driverfixes/newton branch

Hi Sean Thanks a lot for your reply and suggestion. Sorry for the confusing text format.   Xiaoqin E-mail: lix...@cn.ibm.com     - Original message -From: Sean McGinnis To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Clay Gerrard wrote: [trim] > To candidates: > > Would you please self select a change (or changes) from > https://github.com/openstack/governance/ in the past ~12 mo or so where they > thought the outcome or the discussion/process was

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

Greetings Flavio, My perception is that if we need to encourage the spreading of task, roles, responsibility amongst many. In other words, encourage building trust. Building trust should hopefully foster a personal sense of investment and responsibility, hopefully resulting in further diversity

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 02:45:28PM +0200, Flavio Percoco wrote: > Greetings, > > Some of you, TC candidates, expressed concerns about diversity and > inclusiveness > (or inclusivity, depending on your taste) in your candidacy. I believe this > is a > broad, and some times ill-used, topic so,

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

By being involved in training activities and on-boarding new contributors to our community I would like to join to Emilien on his point. I think we have a great, open and welcoming community already, but we still have many areas to improve. Teaching the new community members the processes and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] IBM z/VM CI asks for reporting permission to Nova changes

On 10/11/2017 11:42 PM, Xiao Mei GZ Zheng wrote: Hello, I'm requesting reporting permission (non-voting) to Nova changes for the IBM z/VM CI. The wiki is on link [1]. We designed the CI using nodepool , zuul and Jenkins. The newly uploaded patches will receive an initial +/-1 reports from

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > In the past year or so, has there been anything that made you think “I wish > the TC would do something about that!” ? If so, what was it, and what would > you have wanted the TC to do about it? There have been some great

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

On Oct 13, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > All sarcasm aside though, 'everyone' is a BS non-answer. It's the > politician's answer. > > Not only because engineering trade-offs are a real thing, and some use cases > will *definitely* be excluded in order to better

[openstack-dev] [tc] [stable] [tripleo] [kolla] [ansible] [puppet] Proposing changes in stable policy for installers

Greeting folks, I hope we can get attention from stable-maint, release-managers and installers projects. ## Background Some projects tried hard to follow stable policy but it didn't finish well: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507924/ This policy is too strict for projects like installers,

[openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Proposal to provide volume-backed flavors

We've talked about this since the Boston Forum and talked about it again in Denver at the PTG. I finally got the spec written for a proposal to provide volume-backed flavors in Nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511965/ It's a WIP right now because of a TODO in there about how the field

[openstack-dev] Developer Mailing List Digest September 30 - October 6

HTML version: https://www.openstack.org/blog/2017/10/developer-mailing-list-digest-september-30-6-2017/ ## Summaries * OpenStack Technical Committee * [TC report 40](http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123063.html) by Chris Dent * [TC report

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Proposing Alfredo Moralejo core on puppet-openstack-integration

+1 On Oct 13, 2017 17:13, "Alex Schultz" wrote: +1 thanks for the great contributions On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Mohammed Naser wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: >> >> Alfredo has been

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > Some of you, TC candidates, expressed concerns about diversity and > inclusiveness (or inclusivity, depending on your taste) in your candidacy. I > believe this > is a broad, and some times ill-used, topic so, I'd like

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

Hi Zane, A few comments in line. Thanks and Best Regards, Ildikó (IRC: ildikov) > On 2017. Oct 13., at 21:21, Zane Bitter wrote: > > Replying to myself here, to avoid singling anyone in particular out. I want > to rephrase the question, because people are overwhelmingly

Re: [openstack-dev] [gnocchi] Redis for storage backend

On 2017-10-13 03:37 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13 2017, Yaguang Tang wrote: > >> I see the latest Gnocchi support using Redis as a storage backend, I am >> testing performance of Redis and Ceph, it seems using Redis as storage >> backend we can achieve more realtime metric >> data,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

Replying to myself here, to avoid singling anyone in particular out. I want to rephrase the question, because people are overwhelmingly either failing to understand or refusing to answer it in the way I intended it. Most of the candidates are essentially saying that the answer is 'everyone'.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

Thanks for asking, Flavio. That's one of the topic I mentioned in my candidacy, that's because as a Chinese working on OpenStack in the past 6 years, I do have some experiences about this though I agree it couldn't be done in 1 cycle/year. But I think it's still a domain I can contribute for

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

Hi All, I agree with the items pointed out in the previous mails in the thread. In my view the discussion on the vision was crucial in order to synchronize on what we think OpenStack is and to understand what direction we would like it to move and how we keep it an innovative environment that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

Hi All, Let me reflect to the question in the subject first where I would like to stick to the word ‘user’ and keep my answer simple. I think an OpenStack user is/looks like as an average person. To give a longer explanation, in my view when we are designing our user-facing API’s we need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [gnocchi] Redis for storage backend

On Fri, Oct 13 2017, Yaguang Tang wrote: > I see the latest Gnocchi support using Redis as a storage backend, I am > testing performance of Redis and Ceph, it seems using Redis as storage > backend we can achieve more realtime metric > data, gnocchi status shows there is always few metric to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM Zane Bitter wrote: > (Reminder: we are in the TC election campaigning period, and we all have > the opportunity to question the candidates. The campaigning period ends > on Saturday, so make with the questions.) > > > In my head, I have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

Excerpts from Ed Leafe's message of 2017-10-12 13:38:03 -0500: > In the past year or so, has there been anything that made you think “I wish > the TC would do something about that!” ? If so, what was it, and what would > you have wanted the TC to do about it? > > -- Ed Leafe > The main issue

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Proposing Alfredo Moralejo core on puppet-openstack-integration

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Alfredo has been doing an incredible work on maintaining Puppet > OpenStack CI; by always testing OpenStack from trunk and taking care > of issues. He has been involved in fixing the actual CI problems in > OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

Excerpts from Amrith Kumar's message of 2017-10-13 13:32:54 -0400: > Flavio, > > Some months back I looked at a slide that Thierry showed at a meeting; > it showed contributor statistics and it showed that there were a large > number of contributors who made exactly 1 commit which sometimes got >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

I used to be able to say "my OpenStack background is in Operations" but that isn't strictly true anymore. I've now spent the majority of my time doing what is considered 'developer' work. One thing is for certain though, I have never stopped building OpenStack for what I see as the "hypothetical

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][infra] Zuul v3 rollout, the sequel

On 2017-10-13 07:15:03 -0600 (-0600), Boden Russell wrote: > How can projects validate zuul v3 jobs in our current state to prepare > for the transition? > Some projects don't even have a verified zuul v3 patch [1] and thus > really have no way to test and work through v3 issues (IIUC). > > Is

[openstack-dev] [octavia] how to list/find the amphoras serving a load balancer

Hi, We are about to deploy Octavia (Ocata) in a multi-tenant Openstack environment. All amphoras (for all tenants) will be spawned in a "service" tenant. What is the easiest way to list the amphora instances of a certain load balancer? As far as I could see, there is no API call returning such

[openstack-dev] [all][masakari] Masakari accepted into official projects

Hi All, I am happy to announce that Masakari [1] (Instances High Availability Service) has become official OpenStack from last week[2]. I would like to take this opportunity to thank, all Masakari contributors for your hard work over the past years, and all OpenStack community members for

Re: [openstack-dev] Regarding Multi-Factor Authentication

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Puneet Jain wrote: > Hi All, > > The OpenStack login screen has just login name and password for > validation. Now, if someone writes a script to perform DoS attacks by > sending a lot of fake login requests, the server will easily

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaasv2][agent implementation] L7 policy support

Hi German, I just tested with Newton version and I get the same error as with Mitaka “Not Implemented Error” (see below). Mihaela From: German Eichberger [mailto:german.eichber...@rackspace.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:42 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

For me "Write down OpenStack principles" [1] signaled the start of an more open TC. It was writing down principles that I had been told about verbally when I started working on OpenStack, and had been part of a "shared understanding" for some people who had been in the community for a while. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for the candidates

Excerpts from Paul Belanger's message of 2017-10-12 23:13:11 -0400: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:42:46PM -0700, Clay Gerrard wrote: > > I like a representative democracy. It mostly means I get a say in which > > other people I have to trust to think deeply about issues which effect me > > and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

Flavio, Some months back I looked at a slide that Thierry showed at a meeting; it showed contributor statistics and it showed that there were a large number of contributors who made exactly 1 commit which sometimes got merged, but there was a huge drop off from 1 commit to 2 commits! So I got to

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][election] Question for candidates: How do you think we can make our community more inclusive?

Thanks Doug, I didn't know what caused the "Welcome New Contributor" thing show up in reviews, but that is exactly what I used to look for. -amrith On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Amrith Kumar's message of 2017-10-13 13:32:54 -0400:

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Proposing Alfredo Moralejo core on puppet-openstack-integration

+1, Alfredo rocks. David Moreau Simard Senior Software Engineer | OpenStack RDO dmsimard = [irc, github, twitter] On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Alfredo has been doing an incredible work on maintaining Puppet > OpenStack CI; by always testing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] TC Candidates: what does an OpenStack user look like?

Interesting, now I like this thread more. Back to the original question "what does an OpenStack user look like?", I'd like to translate it as "what does a cloud user look like?". Unless we want to limit "OpenStack" as a software for VPS service. IMHO, the cloud user is developers, who can use the

[openstack-dev] [all][infra] Zuul v3 rollout, the sequel returns

The tl;dr is that we're planning to roll forward out of our partial Zuul v3 rollback starting at 22:00 UTC on Sunday October 15 (this weekend), so expect some CI downtime and all of the benefits (though hopefully none of the drawbacks!) you witnessed when we tried the first time. At that time, v2

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Proposing Alfredo Moralejo core on puppet-openstack-integration

+1 thanks for the great contributions On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Mohammed Naser wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: >> >> Alfredo has been doing an incredible work on maintaining Puppet >> OpenStack CI; by always