Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements] - taskflow preventing sqla 0.8 upgrade

2014-01-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2014-01-06 17:23:31 -0500 (-0500), Doug Hellmann wrote: > [...] > > The global requirements syncing seems to have fixed the issue for > > apps, although it just occurred to me that I'm not sure we check > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum][Pecan][Security] Pecan SecureController vs. Nova policy

2014-01-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
hing working. Doug > > Thanks > Georgy > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Georgy Okrokvertskhov < >> gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi,

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2014-01-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Michael Kerrin wrote: > I have been seeing this problem also. > > > > My problem is actually with oslo.sphinx. I ran sudo pip install -r > test-requirements.txt in cinder so that I could run the tests there, which > installed oslo.sphinx. > > > > Strange thing is t

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-01-07 07:16, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Michael Kerrin wrote: > >> I have been seeing this problem also. >> >> My problem is actually with oslo.sp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Dynamic Meters in Ceilometer

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Ildikó Váncsa wrote: > Hi, > > I've started to work on the idea of supporting a kind of tenant/project > based configuration for Ceilometer. Unfortunately I haven't reached the > point of having a blueprint that could be registered until now. I do not > have a deep

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Sergey Skripnick wrote: > > > >>> I'd like to explore whether the paramiko team will accept this code (or >>> something like it). This seems like a perfect opportunity for us to >>> contribute >>> upstream. >>> >> >> +1 >> >> The patch is not big and the code seems

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Dynamic Meters in Ceilometer

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Ildikó Váncsa wrote: > Hi Doug, > > > > See my answers inline. > > > > Best Regards, > > Ildiko > > > > *From:* Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:10 PM >

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Eric Windisch wrote: > >> >>> About spur: spur is looks ok, but it a bit complicated inside (it uses >>> separate threads for non-blocking stdin/stderr reading [1]) and I don't >>> know how it would work with eventlet. >>> >> >> That does sound like it might cause

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Sergey Skripnick > wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> I'd like to explore whether the paramiko team will accept this code (or >>>> something like it)

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-01-08 08:24, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 2014-01-07 07:16, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 2

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-01-08 10:50, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 2014-01-08 08:24, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 7, 20

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-01-08 11:16, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 01/08/2014 12:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> >>> Yeah, that's what made me start thinking oslo.sphinx should be called >>> something else. &

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Dynamic Meters in Ceilometer

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Ildikó Váncsa wrote: > Hi Doug, > > > > Answers inline again. > > > > Best Regards, > > Ildiko > > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Ildikó Váncsa > wrote: > > Hi, > > I've started to work on the idea of supporting a kind of tenant/project > based configuration

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Dynamic Meters in Ceilometer

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
t; much simpler to implement since the state is clearly defined across daemon > restarts) > Good, thanks, Tim. Doug > > > Tim > > > > > > *From:* Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] > *Sent:* 08 January 2014 19:27 > > *To:* OpenStack Develo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Dynamic Meters in Ceilometer

2014-01-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Kodam, Vijayakumar (EXT-Tata Consultancy Ser - FI/Espoo) wrote: >> > > > >---- > >From: ext Doug Hellmann [doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] > >Sent: Wedne

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config] Centralized config management

2014-01-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
What capabilities would this new service give us that existing, proven, configuration management tools like chef and puppet don't have? On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: > Hi Flavio > > Thank you for your input. > I agree with you. oslo.config isn't right place to have server s

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config] Centralized config management

2014-01-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
re, or chef or puppet > as a backend system. > > Best > Nachi > > > 2014/1/9 Morgan Fainberg : > > I agree with Doug’s question, but also would extend the train of thought > to > > ask why not help to make Chef or Puppet better and cover the more > OpenS

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config] Centralized config management

2014-01-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: > Hi Doug > > 2014/1/9 Doug Hellmann : > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: > >> > >> Hi folks > >> > >> Thank you for your input. > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config] Centralized config management

2014-01-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: > Hi Oleg > > 2014/1/9 Oleg Gelbukh : > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Nachi Ueno wrote: > >> > >> 2014/1/9 Jeremy Hanmer : > >> > >> > How do you see these interactions defined? For instance, if I deploy > >> > a custom driver for Neutron,

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Jamie Lennox wrote: > Is there any way to have WSME pass through arbitrary attributes to the > created object? There is nothing that i can see in the documentation or > code that would seem to support this. > > In keystone we have the situation where arbitrary data

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Sergey Skripnick wrote: > > > >> >> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Eric Windisch >>> wrote: >>> >> >> > > > About spur: spur is looks ok, but it a bit complicated inside (it uses > > separate threads for non-blocking stdin/stde

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Sergey Skripnick wrote: > > I appreciate that we want to fix the ssh client. I'm not certain that >> writing our own is the best >answer. >> > > I was supposed to fix oslo.processutils.ssh with this class, but it may > be fixed without it, not big deal. > > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Sergey Skripnick wrote: > > > >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Sergey Skripnick < >> sskripn...@mirantis.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> I appreciate that we want to fix the ssh client. I'm not certain that writing our own is the >>>best >answer.

[openstack-dev] [oslo] focusing reviews on i-2 blueprints

2014-01-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Oslo Team, We're coming up on the icehouse-2 milestone, and have several blueprints for the milestone that need to have code reviewed. When you review this week, please prioritize the changes associated with those blueprints. https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/icehouse-2 Thanks, Doug

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Oslo] What is the policy of sync up from Oslo to other projects

2014-01-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jay Lau wrote: > Hi, > > Just want to know do we have some policy to sync up from Oslo to other > projects? > > I often noticed that there are some important changes to Oslo but the code > did not sync up to other projects on time. > > Do we want to sync up from O

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt[ Patches to sync gantt up to the current nova tree

2014-01-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: > So I have 25 patches that I need to push to backport changes that have > been made to the nova tree that apply to the gantt tree. The problem is > how do we want to approve these patches? Given that they have already been > reviewed an

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Sergey Skripnick < > sskripn...@mirantis.com> wrote: > >> >> I appreciate that we want to fix the ssh client. I'm not certain that >>> writing our own is the best >answer. >>> >> >> I was supposed to fix

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > Hi Doug, > > 2014/1/11 Doug Hellmann : > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Jamie Lennox > > wrote: > >> > >> Is there any way to have WSME pass through arbitrary attributes to the > >&g

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: > On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 10:23 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Jamie Lennox > > wrote: > > Is there any way to have WSME pass through ar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
; >On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 12:39 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Flavio Percoco >>> wrote: >>> >> >1) Store the commit sha from which the module was copied from. >>> >> >Every project using oslo, c

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Doug Hellmann < > doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: >> >>> On Fri,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Common SSH

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Greg Hill wrote: > Trove doesn't use ssh afaik. It has an agent that runs in the guest that > is communicated with via our normal RPC messaging options. > Good. Doug > > Greg > > On Jan 13, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Doug Hellmann

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
ug > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Doug Hellmann < > doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com> wrote: > >> [resurrecting an old thread] >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: >> >>> On 27/11/13 10:59 +, Mark McLoughl

[openstack-dev] [oslo] need input on new config option for logging translations

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
There's a review in Oslo to provide a configuration option to turn on the ability to log in a second language by specifying the locale ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62508/). Given the recent discussion of adding more configuration options, I wanted to see what people thought about providing t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell < kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 12:07 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We can't just compute the hash of the modules in the project receiving > > copies, and then look for them in the oslo-

[openstack-dev] writing comments as complete sentences

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
Ned Batchelder had an interesting post a few days ago about why code comments should be written as complete sentences, rather than fragments. The main point is that with an unterminated phrase or sentence fragment it isn't always clear that the thought has been completed (i.e., maybe the full comme

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] need input on new config option for logging translations

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Luis A. Garcia wrote: > On 1/13/2014 1:47 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> There's a review in Oslo to provide a configuration option to turn on >> the ability to log in a second language by specifying the locale >> (https://r

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: > On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 10:05 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jamie Lennox > > wrote: > > On Fri, 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Kenichi Oomichi wrote: > > Hi Doug, > > > -Original Message- > > From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:07 AM > > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] api schema validation pattern changes

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 11:45 +0800, Christopher Yeoh wrote: >> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jay Pipes >> > wrote: >> > >> > We don't need API extensions and they make

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] need input on new config option for logging translations

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Luis A. Garcia wrote: > On 1/14/2014 6:59 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> >> [snip] >> >> >> I think the reason for this is simply user convenience. It's easier >> for the user to just set one of those log p

[openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
I've spent some time over the past day or two looking at the dependencies between modules in the oslo incubator, trying to balance the desire to have a small number of libraries with themes that make sense and the need to eliminate circular dependencies. The results of all of this are posted to ht

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
Doug On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 13/01/14 12:07 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > [.] > > >> I spent some time trying to think through how we could improve the update >> script for [1], and I'm stumped on how to figure out

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
't find bugs for them either. Do you have any > pointers to what is being referred to there? > > Thanks, > Michael > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:48 AM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > I've spent some time over the past day or two looking at the dependencies > &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 14/01/14 16:33 -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 2014-01-14 15:26, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >>In the release meeting today, Russell proposed that we at least >> include the >>hash of the HEAD whe

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Michael Still wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > > It would be nice to get lockutils graduated to solve some of the issues > > mentioned in the oslo.db section, but I believe we do have an outstanding > > question regarding its behavio

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 14/01/14 14:48 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> I've spent some time over the past day or two looking at the dependencies >> between modules in the oslo incubator, trying to balance the desire to >> have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Victor Sergeyev wrote: > Hello All. > > As for lockutils - a few days ago I wondered why we used custom oslo > module instead of lockfile library [1]. AFAIK, it must be due to this bug > [2] (please fix me, if I wrong). > > This library is available on github [3] a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > > On Jan 15, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Victor Sergeyev > wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> As for lockutils - a few days ago I wonde

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
ies that have no other oslo dependencies as we create those releases. > > Sent from my really tiny device... > > On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:53 AM, "Doug Hellmann" > wrote: > > I've spent some time over the past day or two looking at the > dependencies between modules

[openstack-dev] [oslo] our notes from the icehouse summit

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
I've finally posted the notes we took at the icehouse summit for various fixes needed to individual modules in Oslo [1]. It would be a great help if maintainers would take a quick look through the notes and open bugs for the items in your module(s), but I will try to make some time to do that next

[openstack-dev] a "common" client library

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
Several people have mentioned to me that they are interested in, or actively working on, code related to a "common" client library -- something meant to be reused directly as a basis for creating a common library for all of the openstack clients to use. There's a blueprint [1] in oslo, and I believ

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] need input on new config option for logging translations

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
ier for developers if this option was in the > service config file. I run with devstack and that sets up logging.conf > (incorrectly for keystone IMO... I need to submit a patch). So I don't > think developer convenience is a good reason here. > > - Brant > > > > On T

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
g that off to just say the most recent hash. Doug > > So I would prefer it if the message for syncs from oslo-incubator included > the commit hash and did not include a list of changes. > > If generating the list of changes was automated then I'd add a step to my > proces

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][Nova] basic setting for notification_driver

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:32 PM, ZhiQiang Fan wrote: > Hi, > > When read Ceilometer install guide[1], the multi valued option > notification_driver is set to two drivers, My question is that is the first > one, which means nova.openstack.common.notifier.rpc_notifier, necessary? > what will happen

Re: [openstack-dev] a "common" client library

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 14:37 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Several people have mentioned to me that they are interested in, or > > actively working on, code related to a "common" client library -- > > something m

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] need input on new config option for logging translations

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Luis A. Garcia wrote: > On 1/15/2014 12:39 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> Based on the discussion with the other PTLs at the release meeting >> yesterday, I'm going to recommend that we create an example logging.conf >> file and documen

Re: [openstack-dev] a "common" client library

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Doug Hellmann < > doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com> wrote: > >> Several people have mentioned to me that they are interested in, or >> actively working on, code related to a "com

Re: [openstack-dev] a "common" client library

2014-01-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Jesse Noller wrote: > > On Jan 15, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > Several people have mentioned to me that they are interested in, or > actively working on, code related to a "common" client library -- something >

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-01-16 13:48, John Griffith wrote: > >> Hey Everyone, >> >> A review came up today that cherry-picked a specific commit to OSLO >> Incubator, without updating the rest of the files in the module. I >> rejected that patch, because my phil

Re: [openstack-dev] a "common" client library

2014-01-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:03 PM, John Utz wrote: > Outlook Web MUA, forgive the top post. :-( > > While a single import line that brings all the good stuff in at one shot > is very convenient for the creation of an application, it would muddy the > security picture *substantially* for the exact

Re: [openstack-dev] a "common" client library

2014-01-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
I like the idea of a fresh start, but I don't think that's incompatible with the other work to clean up the existing clients. That cleanup work could help with creating the backwards compatibility layer, if a new library needs to include one, for example. As far as namespace packages and separate

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 21 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: >> >> > I would like to propose having a integration test job in Oslo incubator >> > that syncs in the code, similar to how we do global re

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 01/21/2014 01:14 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > > On Jan 17, 2014 12:24 AM, "Flavio Percoco" > <mailto:fla...@redhat.com>> wrote: > >> > >> On 16/01/14 17:32 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-01-22 06:32, Sean Dague wrote: > >> I think we need to graduate things to stable interfaces a lot faster. >> Realizing that stable just means "have to deprecate to change it". So >> the interface is still changeable, just requires stand

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] Undefined attributes in WSME

2014-01-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
quot; in some manner? (I think that is the crux, is it something > that can even be expected) > --Morgan > > > On Saturday, January 18, 2014, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Doug Hellmann < >> doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com> wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] writing comments as complete sentences

2014-01-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
t Akhmerov >> @ Mirantis Inc. >> >> On 14 Jan 2014, at 06:00, Jay Pipes wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 08:01 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> Ned Batchelder had an interesting post a few days ago about why code >> >> comments should b

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cherry picking commit from oslo-incubator

2014-01-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 01/23/2014 09:58 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Sean Dague > <mailto:s...@dague.net>> wrote: > > > > On 01/21/2014 01:14 PM, Joe Gordon

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] memoizer aka cache

2014-01-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
The fact that it is already in the requirements list makes it a top contender in my mind, unless we find some major issue with it. Doug On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: > Keystone uses dogpile.cache and I am making an effort to add it into the > oslo incubator cache libr

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][db] Mysql traditional session mode

2014-01-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Florian Haas wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > On 2014-01-23 12:03, Florian Haas wrote: > > > > Ben, > > > > thanks for taking this to the list. Apologies for my brevity and for > HTML, > > I'm on a moving train and Android Gmail is k

[openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently (focusing on errors and warnings before debug messages, for example) [1]. Some concerns were raised related to the review [2], and I would like to address t

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42:28PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > > different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently &

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:12:19PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel P. Berrange < > berra...@redhat.com>wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42:28PM -0500

[openstack-dev] [oslo] team meeting Friday 31 Jan 1400 UTC

2014-01-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team has a few items we need to discuss, so I'm calling a meeting for this Friday, 31 Jan. Our normal slot is 1400 UTC Friday in #openstack-meeting. The agenda [1] includes 2 items (so far): 1. log translations (see the other thread started today) 2. parallelizing our tests If you have

[openstack-dev] stevedore 0.14

2014-01-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
I have just released a new version of stevedore, 0.14, which includes a change to stop checking version numbers of dependencies for plugins. This should eliminate one class of problems we've seen where we get conflicting requirements to install, and the libraries are compatible, but the way stevedo

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] team meeting Friday 31 Jan 1400 UTC

2014-01-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 27/01/14 14:57 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> The Oslo team has a few items we need to discuss, so I'm calling a >> meeting for >> this Friday, 31 Jan. Our normal slot is 1400 UTC Friday in >> #

[openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to the oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the code). I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be better off creatin

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > >> There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to the > >> oslo-incub

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-01-27 11:42, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently > (focusing on errors and warnin

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-01-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > Okay, I think you've convinced me. Specific comments below. > > -Ben > > On 2014-01-29 07:05, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 2014-01-27 11:42,

Re: [openstack-dev] Speaking at PyCON US 2014 about OpenStack?

2014-01-30 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Anita Kuno wrote: > On 01/30/2014 08:42 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > > If you're going to talk about anything related to OpenStack at PyCON > > US/Canada this year, please let me know. We're collecting the list of > > talks related to the project. > > > > Cheers

[openstack-dev] [oslo] starting work on oslo.test graduation

2014-01-30 Thread Doug Hellmann
I've started working on moving some of our test code out of the incubator and into a library. I started with the test base classes and fixtures because they're at the bottom of the dependency graph, and moving anything else out was going to require copying the test stuff from the incubator, and tha

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-30 Thread Doug Hellmann
river integration with the OSLO common code ( > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70108/). The nova integration is > currently under progress. > > > > Thanks, > > Vipin > > > > *From:* Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, January

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-31 Thread Doug Hellmann
s is used by nova and cinder for the > last two releases. Yes, I can act as the maintainer. > > > > Here is the list of reviewers: > > Arnaud Legendre > > Davanum Srinivas (dims) > > garyk > > Kartik Bommepally > > Sabari Murugesan > > Shawn Har

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] log message translations

2014-02-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into > different domains so the translation team can prioritize them differently > (focusing on errors and warnings before debug messages, for example) [1]. > S

Re: [openstack-dev] Supporting WebOb 1.3

2014-02-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 02/03/2014 11:45 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Sorry if this has been already discussed (traffic is high in this list). >> >> I've just checked, and our global-requirements.txt still has: >> WebOb>=1.2.3,<1.3 >> >> Problem: both

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-02-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
s/oslo.vmware > Request to create Gerrit Groups : > https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1275817 > Review request to create stackforge repo and jenkins jobs : > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70761/ > > -- dims > > [1] http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] pep8 gating fails due to tools/config/check_uptodate.sh

2014-02-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:09 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > > I think the pretty obvious solution here is to *stop* storing > automatically > > generated files in GIT. This kind of problem crops up time & again for > any > > project I've seen which st

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-stable-maint] Stable gate status?

2014-02-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Alan Pevec wrote: > 2014-02-04 Mark McClain : > > On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Alan Pevec wrote: > > > >> Hi Sean and Anita, > >> > >> what is your opinion about the state of stable/havana gate? > >> > >> If you think it's not stable enough to return back patches w

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] WSME/Pecan serializing Exceptions

2014-02-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Hi, > > The WSME wsexpose() decorator for Pecan serializes any Exception being > raised on a controller [1] > > I can understand the behaviour for security and visualization concerns, > but I was wondering if it was possible to add an extra pa

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] massive number of new errors in logs with oslo.messaging

2014-02-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > Just noticed this at the end of a successful run: > > > http://logs.openstack.org/15/63215/13/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/2636cae/console.html#_2014-02-02_12_02_44_422 > > It looks like the merge of oslo.messaging brings a huge amount of false

Re: [openstack-dev] [wsme] WSME/Pecan serializing Exceptions

2014-02-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > hi Doug, > > > 2014-02-04 Doug Hellmann : > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> >>> >>> >> If the exception has a "code" attrib

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-stable-maint] Stable gate status?

2014-02-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Alan Pevec wrote: > 2014-02-04 Doug Hellmann : > > Do we have a list of those somewhere? > > Pulled out where following Neutron patches (IMHO all innocent for gate > breaking): > https://review.openstack.org/62206 > https://review.ope

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 gating fails due to tools/config/check_uptodate.sh

2014-02-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 01:19 +0900, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 02/05/2014 12:37 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > > On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 16:49 +, Sahid Ferdjaoui wrote: > > >> Hello all, > > >> > > >> It looks 100% of the pep8 gate for nova

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2014-02-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-01-08 12:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 2014-01-08 11:16, Sean Dague wrote: >> >>> On 01/08/2014 12:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 gating fails due to tools/config/check_uptodate.sh

2014-02-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 02/05/2014 12:37 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > >> On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 16:49 +, Sahid Ferdjaoui wrote: > >>> Hello all, > >>> > >>> It looks 100% of the pep8 gate for nova is failing

Re: [openstack-dev] pep8 gating fails due to tools/config/check_uptodate.sh

2014-02-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > >> Including the config file in either the developer documentation or the >> packaging build makes more sense. I'm still worried that adding it to

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating "required use" upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one > integrated project) > > The DefCore subcommittee from the OpenStack board of directors asked the > Technical Committee yesterday about which code sections in each > integ

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2014-02-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-02-05 09:05, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > >> On 2014-01-08 12:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Ben

Re: [openstack-dev] [Governance] Integrated projects and new requirements

2014-02-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > Greetings, > > In the TC we have been going through a process to better define our > requirements for incubation and graduation to being an integrated > project. The current version can be found in the governance repo: > > > http://git.open

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