Re: [openstack-dev] Use of restricted and multiverse in the gate

2016-02-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/07/2016 12:56 PM, Jim Meyer wrote: On Feb 7, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com> wrote: Hey all, We're working on getting per-region APT mirrors stood up for the nodepool nodes to use in the gate. As part of working on this, it struck me that we currently

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Proposal: Separate design summits from OpenStack conferences

2016-02-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/07/2016 02:07 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: Hello all, tl;dr = I have long thought that the OpenStack Summits have become too commercial and provide little value to the software engineers contributing to OpenStack. I propose the following: 1) Separate the design summits from the conferences

[openstack-dev] All hail Newton and Ocata

2016-01-19 Thread Monty Taylor
If you couldn't tell from the subject line, we've gotten clearance from our friends on the Foundation staff and their legal team to be able to announce the names of the N and O cycles. The N release will be called "Newton" Newton was the overall winner of the Condorcet poll. While you might

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

2016-01-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/15/2016 10:28 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:53:49PM +, Chris Dent wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Thomas Goirand wrote: Whatever we choose, I think we should ban having copyright holding text within our source code. While licensing is a good idea, as it is

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal: copyright-holders file in each project, or copyright holding forced to the OpenStack Foundation

2016-01-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/15/2016 10:38 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 08:48:21PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: This isn't the first time I'm calling for it. Let's hope this time, I'll be heard. Randomly, contributors put their company names into source code. When they do, then effectively,

[openstack-dev] Naming Polls for N and O are open

2015-12-16 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey everybody! The naming polls for N and O have started. You should have received an email for each of them. They'll be open until the end of Dec 22 UTC. Once there are presumptive winners in each, please remember that we will then have the names vetted by the OpenStack Foundation's lawyers,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Rename tenant to project: discussion

2015-12-04 Thread Monty Taylor
ember 2013 [4][5] but unfortunately, no one finished it. Although Keystone V3 API is already supported in Neutron client [2], there are still some unknowns about Neutron server side. Monty Taylor is trying to address necessary (if any) changes [3]. Findings:

[openstack-dev] [os-client-config] Proposing Morgan Fainberg for core

2015-12-03 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all, I'd like to propose that we include Morgan Fainberg as core on os-client-config. He's in the over/under on matching other active reviewers on the project, and he's got a good understanding of the related problem space. Also, he's interested and active, which for a low-volume project

[openstack-dev] [os-client-config][infra] Proposing adding infra-core to core

2015-12-03 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all, os-client-config is now in the critical path for Infra's Nodepool, meaning that there are some places where a bug surfacing in it can take down the entire CI infrastructure. Infra also uses many more of the advanced features in clouds.yaml than most other people, so the surface area

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Use of self signed certs in endpoints

2015-11-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/15/2015 10:26 AM, Adam Young wrote: On 11/14/2015 03:09 AM, Xav Paice wrote: Hi, I'm sure I'm not the only one that likes to use SSL everywhere possible, and doesn't like to pay for 'real' ssl certs for dev environments. Figuring out how to get requests to allow connection to the self

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Use of self signed certs in endpoints

2015-11-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/15/2015 03:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Xav Paice's message of 2015-11-15 11:45:55 -0800: After having a brief discussion this morning (NZ time) on the #python-requests irc, it seems that using the system CA bundle is a "Not a chance" situation. They've tried, and found it

[openstack-dev] Nominations open for the N and O names of OpenStack

2015-11-09 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey everybody! It's release naming time, and this time we get to do two at once! If you'd like to propose a name, there are two wiki pages: For the N release, where the geographic region is "Texas Hill Country": https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/N_Proposals For the O release,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Outcome of distributed lock manager discussion @ the summit

2015-11-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/04/2015 04:09 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Graham, Agree. Hence the Tooz as the abstraction layer. Folks are welcome to write new drivers or fix existing drivers for Tooz where needed. Yes. This is correct. We cannot grow a hard depend on a Java thing, but optional depends are ok - and

Re: [openstack-dev] Announcing a new library: requestsexceptions

2015-11-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/04/2015 06:30 PM, James E. Blair wrote: Hi, I'm pleased to announce the availability of a new micro-library named requestsexceptions. Now the task of convincing the requests library not to fill up your filesystem with warnings about SSL requests has never been easier! Over in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][heat] Which repo to use in docs -- git.openstack.org or github.com?

2015-10-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/20/2015 06:43 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: On 2015-10-20 12:17, Qiming Teng wrote: Hi, Just encountered this again in code review [1]. The question is about the repository to point to when documenting things up. Between the following links, which one should we use? -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Driver documentation in Ironic

2015-10-19 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/19/2015 01:46 AM, Wan-yen Hsu wrote: I fully agreed with Ramesh. There is a need for driver owners to be able to quickly update their driver’s document. Particularly, vendor's drivers have strong dependencies on their platform’s firmware. For instance, a new release of firmware may

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] py26 support in python-muranoclient

2015-10-18 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/18/2015 04:52 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 11 October 2015 at 01:17, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-10-09 18:51:51 + (+), Tim Bell wrote: There is a need to distinguish between server side py26 support which is generally under the control of the service

Re: [openstack-dev] Requests + urllib3 + distro packages

2015-10-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/15/2015 02:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 10/15/2015 12:18 AM, Robert Collins wrote: On 15 October 2015 at 11:11, Thomas Goirand wrote: One major pain point is unfortunately something ridiculously easy to fix, but which nobody seems to care about: the long & short

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar][cli][openstackclient] conflict in nova flavor and zaqar flavor

2015-10-13 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/13/2015 05:15 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Shifali Agrawal > wrote: All above make sense, just one thing, how about using word "zaqar" instead of messaging? That is what all other

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/12/2015 12:43 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-10-12 05:57:26 -0700: On 10/11/2015 02:53 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Thomas, i am curious as well. AFAIK, cassandra works well with OpenJDK. Can you please elaborate what you concerns are for #1?

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/12/2015 02:45 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Alec Hothan (ahothan) wrote: On 10/10/15, 11:35 PM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: Excerpts from Alec Hothan (ahothan)'s message of 2015-10-09 21:19:14 -0700: On 10/9/15, 6:29 PM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: Excerpts

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] service catalog: TNG

2015-10-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/09/2015 11:21 AM, Shamail wrote: On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: It looks like some great conversation got going on the service catalog standardization spec / discussion at the last cross project meeting. Sorry I wasn't there to participate. Apologize

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] service catalog: TNG

2015-10-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/09/2015 01:39 PM, David Stanek wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Jonathan D. Proulx <j...@csail.mit.edu <mailto:j...@csail.mit.edu>> wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 01:01:20PM -0400, Shamail wrote: :> On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Monty Taylor <mo

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] service catalog: TNG

2015-10-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/09/2015 11:07 AM, David Lyle wrote: I'm in too. Yes please. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: Lastly, I think it's pretty clear we probably need a dedicated workgroup meeting to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] service catalog: TNG

2015-10-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/09/2015 10:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: It looks like some great conversation got going on the service catalog standardization spec / discussion at the last cross project meeting. Sorry I wasn't there to participate. Just so folks know, the collection of existing service catalogs has been

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler proposal

2015-10-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/08/2015 09:01 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: Operational overhead has a cost - maintaining 3 different database tools, backing them up, providing HA, etc. has operational cost. This is not to say that this cannot be overseen, but it should be taken into

Re: [openstack-dev] Requests + urllib3 + distro packages

2015-10-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/08/2015 08:39 PM, Robert Collins wrote: This is a bugbear that keeps cropping up and biting us. I'm hoping we can figure out a permanent fix. The problem that occurs is the result of a few interacting things: - requests has very very specific versions of urllib3 it works with. So

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] A few questions on configuring DevStack for Neutron

2015-10-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/08/2015 07:13 PM, Christopher Aedo wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Sean M. Collins wrote: Please see my response here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/076251.html In the future, do not create multiple threads since responses

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] naming N and O releases nowish

2015-10-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/07/2015 09:24 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 10/07/2015 08:57 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sean Dague wrote: We're starting to make plans for the next cycle. Long term plans are getting made for details that would happen in one or two cycles. As we already have the locations for the N and O

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] py.test vs testrepository

2015-10-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/06/2015 10:52 AM, Sebastian Kalinowski wrote: I've already wrote in the review that caused this thread that I do not want to blindly follow rules for using one or another. We should always consider technical requirements. And I do not see a reason to leave py.test (and nobody show me such

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] py.test vs testrepository

2015-10-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/06/2015 06:01 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 10/06/2015 01:14 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:40 PM Roman Prykhodchenko > wrote: Atm I have the following pros. and cons. regarding testrepository: pros.: 1. It’s

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum]swarm + compose = k8s?

2015-09-29 Thread Monty Taylor
*waving hands wildly at details* ... I believe that the real win is if Magnum's control plan can integrate the network and storage fabrics that exist in an OpenStack with kube/mesos/swarm. Just deploying is VERY meh. I do not care - it's not interesting ... an ansible playbook can do that in

[openstack-dev] [election][TC] TC Candidacy

2015-09-29 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi! I would like to continue serving on the TC, if you'll have me. Although past performance is no guarantee of future profits, I think it's worth noting that I've been doing this for a while now. I was on the precursor to the TC, the Project Policy Board. Over the time I've been the

Re: [openstack-dev] Compute API (Was Re: [nova][cinder] how to handle AZ bug 1496235?)

2015-09-28 Thread Monty Taylor
ova codebase and couldn't be rather provided by the Heat API. Oh sure, it would perhaps require another endpoint behind the same service, but isn't that better than having another endpoint in Nova ? [1] https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml#L482-L484 I re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Assumptions regarding extensions to OpenStack api's

2015-09-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/25/2015 02:32 PM, Pratik Mallya wrote: Hello Heat Team, I was wondering if OpenStack Heat assumes that the Nova extensions api would always exist in a cloud? My impression was that since these features are extensions, they may or may not be implemented by the cloud provider and hence Heat

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova] how to upgrade from v1 to v2?

2015-09-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/25/2015 06:37 PM, Chris Hoge wrote: On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Andrew Laski > wrote: I understand that reasoning, but still am unsure on a few things. The direction seems to be moving towards having a requirement that the same

[openstack-dev] Patches coming for .coveragerc

2015-09-21 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! Coverage released a 4.0 today (yay!) which changes how the config file is read. As a result, "ignore-errors" in the .coveragerc file needs to be ignore_errors. We're running a script right now to submit a change to every project with this change. The topic will be coverage-v4

Re: [openstack-dev] openstack-dahboard directory is not created

2015-09-19 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/18/2015 02:03 PM, OpenStack Mailing List Archive wrote: Link: https://openstack.nimeyo.com/59453/?show=59453#q59453 From: vidya I am trying to create openstack -dashboard on my VM and /usr/share/openstack-dashboard in not create. Please help me what i am missing here.

Re: [openstack-dev] [releases][requirements][keystone]something incompatible with our requirements

2015-09-18 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/18/2015 03:32 PM, Robert Collins wrote: I know this is terrible timing with the release and all, but constraints updates are failing. This is the first evidence - and it doesn't look like a race to me:

Re: [openstack-dev] [releases][requirements][keystone]something incompatible with our requirements

2015-09-18 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/18/2015 04:29 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 19 September 2015 at 08:03, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2015-09-19 07:32:18 +1200: I know this is terrible timing with the release and all, but constraints updates are failing. This is

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over

2015-09-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/17/2015 04:50 PM, Anita Kuno wrote: On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on the wiki[0]. There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][devstack] New proposed 'default' network model

2015-09-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/15/2015 06:30 PM, Armando M. wrote: On 15 September 2015 at 08:04, Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com <mailto:mord...@inaugust.com>> wrote: Hey all! If any of you have ever gotten drunk with me, you'll know I hate floating IPs more than I hate being stabbed

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][devstack] New proposed 'default' network model

2015-09-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/15/2015 06:16 PM, Armando M. wrote: On 15 September 2015 at 08:27, Mike Spreitzer <mspre...@us.ibm.com <mailto:mspre...@us.ibm.com>> wrote: Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com <mailto:mord...@inaugust.com>> wrote on 09/15/2015 11:04:07 AM: > a) an

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][devstack] New proposed 'default' network model

2015-09-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/15/2015 08:28 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/15/2015 10:27 AM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com> wrote on 09/15/2015 11:04:07 AM: > a) an update to python-novaclient to allow a named network to be passed > to satisfy the "you have more

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][devstack] New proposed 'default' network model

2015-09-15 Thread Monty Taylor
ivity? Surely everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but I don't honestly believe these are fair statements to make. The original statement by Monty Taylor is clear to me: I wish to boot an instance that is on a public network and reachable without madness. As of toda

[openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][devstack] New proposed 'default' network model

2015-09-15 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! If any of you have ever gotten drunk with me, you'll know I hate floating IPs more than I hate being stabbed in the face with a very angry fish. However, that doesn't really matter. What should matter is "what is the most sane thing we can do for our users" As you might have seen

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] proposed priorities for Mitaka

2015-09-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/15/2015 03:13 PM, stuart.mcla...@hp.com wrote: After having some conversations with folks at the Ops Midcycle a few weeks ago, and observing some of the more recent email threads related to glance, glance-store, the client, and the API, I spent last week contacting a few of you

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] proposed priorities for Mitaka

2015-09-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/15/2015 07:09 PM, stuart.mcla...@hp.com wrote: I've been looking into the existing task-based-upload that Doug mentions: can anyone clarify the following? On a default devstack install you can do this 'task' call: http://paste.openstack.org/show/462919 Yup. That's the one. as an

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] proposed priorities for Mitaka

2015-09-14 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/14/2015 02:41 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 14/09/15 08:10 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: After having some conversations with folks at the Ops Midcycle a few weeks ago, and observing some of the more recent email threads related to glance, glance-store, the client, and the API, I spent last

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] proposed priorities for Mitaka

2015-09-14 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/15/2015 02:06 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-09-14 13:46:16 -0700: Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-09-14 13:25:43 -0700: Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-09-14 12:51:24 -0700: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] tasks (following "proposed priorities for Mitaka")

2015-09-14 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/14/2015 04:58 PM, Brian Rosmaita wrote: Apologies for forking the thread, but there was way too much in Doug's email (and Flavio's response) and I only want to make a few points about tasks. Please read Doug's original email and Flavio's reply at some point, preferably before you read

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack support for Amazon Concepts - was Re: cloud-init IPv6 support

2015-09-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/05/2015 06:19 PM, Sean M. Collins wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 04:20:23PM EDT, Kevin Benton wrote: Right, it depends on your perspective of who 'owns' the API. Is it cloud-init or EC2? At this point I would argue that cloud-init is in control because it would be a large undertaking to

[openstack-dev] This is what disabled-by-policy should look like to the user

2015-09-04 Thread Monty Taylor
mordred@camelot:~$ neutron net-create test-net-mt Policy doesn't allow create_network to be performed. Thank you neutron. Excellent job. Here's what that looks like at the REST layer: DEBUG: keystoneclient.session RESP: [403] date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:55:47 GMT connection: close content-type:

Re: [openstack-dev] This is what disabled-by-policy should look like to the user

2015-09-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/04/2015 10:55 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: On Sep 4, 2015, at 07:04, Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com> wrote: mordred@camelot:~$ neutron net-create test-net-mt Policy doesn't allow create_network to be performed. Thank you neutron. Excellent job. Here's what that look

Re: [openstack-dev] This is what disabled-by-policy should look like to the user

2015-09-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/04/2015 01:42 PM, John Griffith wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Mathieu Gagné <mga...@internap.com> wrote: On 2015-09-04 12:50 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/04/2015 10:55 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: Obviously the translation of errors would be more difficult if the en

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] [wsme] [ceilometer] Replacing WSME with _____ ?

2015-08-28 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/28/2015 08:32 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Fri, Aug 28 2015, Chris Dent wrote: This morning I kicked off a quick spec for replacing WSME in Ceilometer with ... something: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218155/ This is because not only is WSME not that great, it also results in

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] [wsme] [ceilometer] Replacing WSME with _____ ?

2015-08-28 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/28/2015 08:32 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Fri, Aug 28 2015, Chris Dent wrote: This morning I kicked off a quick spec for replacing WSME in Ceilometer with ... something: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218155/ This is because not only is WSME not that great, it also results in

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] [wsme] [ceilometer] Replacing WSME with _____ ?

2015-08-28 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/28/2015 07:36 AM, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: Hi, If you just want to shoot the breeze please respond here. If you have specific comments on the spec please response there. I have been thinking about doing it for Ironic as well so I'm looking for options. IMHO after using WSME I would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] netaddr and abbreviated CIDR format

2015-08-22 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/21/2015 03:33 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/21/2015 02:34 PM, Sean M. Collins wrote: So - the tl;dr is that I don't think that we should accept inputs like the following: x - 192 x/y - 10/8 x.x/y - 192.168/16 x.x.x/y - 192.168.0/24 which are equivalent to:: x.0.0.0/y -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active

2015-07-31 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/01/2015 03:40 AM, Mike Perez wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: ...random thought here, skip as needed... in all honesty orchestration solutions like mesos (http://mesos.apache.org/assets/img/documentation/architecture3.jpg), map-reduce

Re: [openstack-dev] OPENSTACK with CEPH storage backend cant down size an instance

2015-07-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/24/2015 12:47 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from James Galvin's message of 2015-07-24 09:08:36 -0700: Hi All I am having some trouble with down sizing an instance, I can resize the instance from say small flavour to medium flavour but when trying to resize the instance back from

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-14 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/14/2015 11:08 AM, Ian Cordasco wrote: On 7/13/15, 16:19, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: Ian Cordasco wrote: On 7/13/15, 15:09, Dave Walkerem...@daviey.com wrote: On 13 Jul 2015 8:52 pm, Ian Cordascoian.corda...@rackspace.com wrote: On 7/13/15, 03:38, Thierry

[openstack-dev] OpenStack Mitaka (三鷹) - Our next release name has been selected

2015-07-14 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi everybody! Ok. There is nothing more actually useful I can say that isn't in the subject line. As I mentioned previously, the preliminary results from our name election are here: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_4983776e190c8dbc As you are all probably aware by now, as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [testing] moving testrepository *outside* the tox venv

2015-07-10 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/10/2015 07:19 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 10 July 2015 at 01:59, Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: Or a database per python major version (or at least gracefully handle the incompatibility). So that would partition the data, and the whole point of test *repository* is

[openstack-dev] OpenStack Meiji (明治) - Our next release name has been selected

2015-07-06 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi everybody! Ok. There is nothing more actually useful I can say that isn't in the subject line. As I mentioned previously, the preliminary results from our name election are here: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_4983776e190c8dbc As a follow on step, the OpenStack Foundation

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] diskimage-builder 1.0.0

2015-06-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/29/2015 08:44 AM, Gregory Haynes wrote: Hello all, DIB has come a long way and we seem to have a fairly stable interface for the elements and the image creation scripts. As such, I think it's about time we commit to a major version release. Hopefully this can give our users the

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][glance][nova] Python 3 coming!

2015-06-26 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/26/2015 04:26 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: Hi, The Python 3.4 gate (py34) of cinder, glance and nova just became voting. You now have to write Python code compatible with Python 2.7 and 3.4. WOOHOO! Well done! If the py34 check job fails on your patch, you may try to rebase it to get

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Any other downstream developers having problems with pbr?

2015-06-26 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/26/2015 07:24 AM, Clark Boylan wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 04:01 AM, Matthew Booth wrote: I wrote this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195983/1/tools/de-pbr.py,cm Ideally we'd fix PBR, but this seems to be expected behaviour. Thoughts? Use the PBR_VERSION env var [1], it exists

Re: [openstack-dev] Scheduler hints, API and Objects

2015-06-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/25/2015 10:22 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: I have been growing concerned recently with some attempts to formalize scheduler hints, both with API validation and Nova objects defining them, and want to air those concerns and see if others agree or can help me see why I shouldn't worry.

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova][ironic] Microversion API HTTP header

2015-06-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/25/2015 01:35 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Sean's point and Dmitri's are similar. There are APIs for projects which do not have official team or program names. And some teams may produce more than one forward-facing service. Naming the API based in the team name doesn't make

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] apache wsgi application support

2015-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/24/2015 02:05 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/24/2015 01:51 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com mailto:chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/24/2015 07:57 AM, Chris Dent wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder][stable] Cinder client broken in Juno

2015-06-23 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/23/2015 11:49 AM, Mike Perez wrote: There was a bug raised [1] from some large deployments that the Cinder client 1.2.0 and beyond is not working because of version discovery. Unfortunately it's not taking into account of deployments that have a proxy. Cinder client asks Keystone to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel][Fuel-library] Using librarian-puppet to manage upstream fuel-library modules

2015-06-23 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/23/2015 01:51 PM, Alex Schultz wrote: Hello everyone, I took some time this morning to write out a document[0] that outlines one possible ways for us to manage our upstream modules in a more consistent fashion. I know we've had a few emails bouncing around lately around this topic of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][requirements] requirements reviews falling behind

2015-06-22 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/22/2015 02:49 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: We have quite a long list of patches to the openstack/requirements repository, many of which are straightforward changes to increase the minimums for libraries we develop within the community (meaning we are holding up projects from using new

[openstack-dev] M Naming Poll ended - results still need to clear legal

2015-06-22 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! The M naming poll has concluded. I'd say and the winner is ... except we still need to get the winning choice(s) vetted for legal entanglements. Feel free to go and look at the results, they are publicly available - but please DON'T start making t-shirts or having parties (ok, have as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Stackalytics] Complementary projects

2015-06-19 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/19/2015 11:40 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/19/2015 10:31 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Jun 19, 2015 3:56 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/19/2015 09:19 AM, Ilya Shakhat wrote: Some reasons of having complementary projects in Stackalytics: *

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][DevStack] Standing on the shoulders of giants - Linux Bridge testing at the gate

2015-06-19 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/19/2015 03:20 AM, Sean M. Collins wrote: Hi, I wanted to give a quick update on the new experimental job for testing the Linux Bridge mechanism driver for Neutron. I believe that there is only one patch that needs to be merged, in order to get the job to a point where we could move

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] setup.py executable bit

2015-06-18 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/17/2015 03:24 PM, Ian Cordasco wrote: On 6/17/15, 13:53, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-06-17 14:47:48 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: +1 both to using -x and to removing the shebang. Agreed. We don't want anyone directly invoking this file as an executable

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet][murano] Developing puppet module for Murano

2015-06-17 Thread Monty Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/17/2015 08:53 AM, Emilien Macchi wrote: Hi Serg, On 06/17/2015 05:35 AM, Serg Melikyan wrote: Hi Emilien, I would like to answer your question regarding stackforge/puppet-murano repository asked in different thread: Someone from

[openstack-dev] Starting the M Release Name Poll

2015-06-14 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey everybody! I've started the poll for the M release. By now, you should have gotten an email with a link to the vote. If you did not and think that you should have, please let me know (directly, not to the mailing list please) and I can re-send and/or fix as necessary. Please remember that

[openstack-dev] Please Merge patches titled Merge Tag ...

2015-06-09 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi! When we cut a release, we do so on a branch. This means that the tag for the release is not in the master branch of the repo, which means git can produce unexpected output in some cases. To solve this, we have the proposal bot propose a null-merge of the tag back in to master. The patch in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] When to bump the microversion?

2015-06-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/04/2015 11:27 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: On 06/04/2015 05:03 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/04/2015 10:50 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: On 06/04/2015 04:40 PM, Ruby Loo wrote: Hi, In Kilo, we introduced microversions but it seems to be a work-in-progress. There is an effort now to add

[openstack-dev] Release naming for M open for nominations

2015-06-02 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey everyone! It's time to pick a name for the M release. If you have a name you'd like us to vote on, please add it here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/M_Proposals The nominations will be open until 2015-06-07 23:59:59 UTC. If you don't remember the rules, they're here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] usefulness of device parameter at volumeAttachment

2015-05-28 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/28/2015 11:25 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 05/26/2015 03:13 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 11:00:32AM +0200, Géza Gémes wrote: Hi, When someone calls nova volume-attach or the block-device-mapping parameter at boot, it is possible to specify a device name for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-28 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/28/2015 12:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi all, tl;dr; At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. I had a brief follow-up conversation with Doug and Thierry, but I'd like this

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-27 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/27/2015 06:35 PM, Keith Bray wrote: Joe, regarding apps-catalog for any app deployable on OpenStack (regardless of deployment technology), my two cents is that is a good idea. I also believe, however, that the app-catalog needs to evolve first with features that make it super simple to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Allow passing body for more API methods

2015-05-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/11/2015 02:05 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services) andrea.r...@hp.com wrote: Agreed. Violating the HTTP spec is something that should be avoided. Actually it is not violating the HTTP spec, from RFC: A payload within a DELETE

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] who is the ptl of trove?

2015-05-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/08/2015 03:45 AM, Nikhil Manchanda wrote: Comments and answers inline. Li Tianqing writes: [...] 1) why we put the trove vm into user's tenant, not the trove's tenant? User can login on that vm, and that vm must connect to rabbitmq. It is quite insecure. what's

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet][operators] How to specify Keystone v3 credentials?

2015-05-04 Thread Monty Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/04/2015 08:47 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: On 05/04/2015 10:37 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 05/04/2015 07:52 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: On 2015-05-04 9:15 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 05/04/2015 06:03 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: On 2015-05-04

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] regular releases, and path to 1.0

2015-05-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/04/2015 03:53 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Hi, I'd like to talk about how often we can and should release pbr, and what criteria we should use for 1.0. tl;dr: release weekly [outside of organisation-wide-freezes], do a 1.0 immediately. pbr, like all our libraries affects everything

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] regular releases, and path to 1.0

2015-05-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/04/2015 04:15 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 5 May 2015 at 08:12, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 05/04/2015 03:53 PM, Robert Collins wrote: I'm fine with that in principle - I tend to release personal libraries pretty much as soon as something interesting hits them. I have

Re: [openstack-dev] [TC][Keystone] Rehashing the Pecan/Falcon/other WSGI debate

2015-05-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/01/2015 09:16 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: Hi all, At around the time Barbican was applying for incubation there was a discussion about supported WSGI frameworks. From memory the decision at the time was that Pecan was to be the only supported framework and that for incubation Barbican

Re: [openstack-dev] [swift] Go! Swift!

2015-04-30 Thread Monty Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/30/2015 08:06 PM, John Dickinson wrote: On Apr 30, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/30/2015 12:40 PM, John Dickinson wrote: Swift is a scalable and durable storage engine for storing unstructured data. It's

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] New fedora 21 Atomic images available for testing

2015-04-26 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/26/2015 02:21 PM, Gregory Haynes wrote: Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2015-04-23 23:27:00 +: Hi folks, I have spent the last couple of days trying to bring some sanity to the image building process for Magnum. I have found a tool which the Atomic upstream

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] support for 'python setup.py install'

2015-04-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/25/2015 09:49 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-25 12:12:15 +1200 (+1200), Robert Collins wrote: [...] I'd like to make that a little more official: - put it in our docs - stop testing python setup.py install. [...] And emit a clear error message? (Even if that just means

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] support for 'python setup.py install'

2015-04-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/24/2015 08:12 PM, Robert Collins wrote: In our pbr integration tests we ensure that 'python setup.py install' works, as well as ensuring that 'pip install' works. But see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015525.html - for the last 18 months in pbr we've

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] support for 'python setup.py install'

2015-04-25 Thread Monty Taylor
April 2015 at 15:27, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 04/25/2015 09:49 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-04-25 12:12:15 +1200 (+1200), Robert Collins wrote: [...] I'd like to make that a little more official: - put it in our docs - stop testing python setup.py install

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] support for 'python setup.py install'

2015-04-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/25/2015 11:46 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 04/25/2015 11:33 AM, Dave Walker wrote: I'm not going to pretend it is graceful... but is there a situation where _ isn't correct? Ooh. This is a worthy avenue to explore ... Ok. After some chatting with fungi in IRC - I've got this: https

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Question for the TC candidates

2015-04-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/24/2015 06:28 PM, David Medberry wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: What can and should the TC at large, and you specifically, do to ensure quality improves for the developers, end-users and operators of OpenStack as a full system, both as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default in DevStack [was: Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work]

2015-04-18 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/18/2015 10:44 AM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Replying inline. -Original Message- From: Monty Taylor [mailto:mord...@inaugust.com] Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 7:53 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Linuxbridge as the default

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