Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 16/03/2016 04:47, Tony Breeds wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 09:41:41PM +, Hayes, Graham wrote: >> I do not see the time frame for defining an electorate there. >> >> PTL seats are completely renewed every 6 months. A separate election is >> run for >> each project team. These elections

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

Tony Breeds wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 06:28:14PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: The second issue is that we don't have any way to run an election on the project, since we don't have a way to determine "contributors" (or rather, the only voter and potential candidate under those rules would

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 09:41:41PM +, Hayes, Graham wrote: > I do not see the time frame for defining an electorate there. > > PTL seats are completely renewed every 6 months. A separate election is > run for > each project team. These elections are collectively held 5 weeks prior > to each

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 03/15/2016 11:18 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Whoever will be the PTL, my single hope is that one day people will > deploy OpenStack in production by using packaging built in OpenStack > Infra. +1 Thanks for your support. I don't really care having a PTL badge either. I care for this project

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > The Fuel team, many occasional Debian contributors, the Kolla team, the > Puppet OpenStack team, and of course myself, all want this project to > get started on good tracks. It will happen, because of this need.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 03/15/2016 09:35 PM, Hayes, Graham wrote: > On 15/03/2016 20:29, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Does the current PTL not have the ability to propose extra-atc's for > this reason? > > Would a solution be for zigo to propose the people active in >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 15/03/2016 21:09, Tony Breeds wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 08:35:23PM +, Hayes, Graham wrote: > >> Does the current PTL not have the ability to propose extra-atc's for >> this reason? >> >> Would a solution be for zigo to propose the people active in >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 08:35:23PM +, Hayes, Graham wrote: > Does the current PTL not have the ability to propose extra-atc's for > this reason? > > Would a solution be for zigo to propose the people active in > http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-pkg-tools.git/ > to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 09:25:47PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/15/2016 08:22 PM, Tony Breeds wrote: > > However, at the risk of sounding like a humorless automaton, we have a valid > > candidate. > > * Monty Taylor for Packaging-Deb PTL > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292690/ > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 2016-03-15 21:25:47 +0100 (+0100), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > I know we have established governance rules. They exist for a reason. > Though I hope everyone understand what happened after my explanation. > > I believe what you wanted to write is: > > "If we don't think first and follow the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 03/15/2016 04:25 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/15/2016 08:22 PM, Tony Breeds wrote: >> However, at the risk of sounding like a humorless automaton, we have a valid >> candidate. >> * Monty Taylor for Packaging-Deb PTL >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292690/ > > This started as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 15/03/2016 20:29, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/15/2016 08:22 PM, Tony Breeds wrote: >> However, at the risk of sounding like a humorless automaton, we have a valid >> candidate. >> * Monty Taylor for Packaging-Deb PTL >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292690/ > > This started as a joke.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 03/15/2016 08:22 PM, Tony Breeds wrote: > However, at the risk of sounding like a humorless automaton, we have a valid > candidate. > * Monty Taylor for Packaging-Deb PTL https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292690/ This started as a joke. Please don't pick-up the joke, and make it a serious

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 06:28:14PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > The second issue is that we don't have any way to run an election on the > project, since we don't have a way to determine "contributors" (or rather, > the only voter and potential candidate under those rules would be Monty). > You

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

Thomas Goirand wrote: so it's not completely crazy to kick it back to non-official status (especially now that it doesn't trigger any repository rename). Please don't. It took over 5 months to get it, and to be allowed to create the initial Git repository under the OpenStack namespace, with

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 03/15/2016 01:45 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/11/2016 12:45 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> On 2016-03-10 22:05:00 + (+), Tristan Cacqueray wrote: >>> Projects such as Openstack UX, Packaging Deb and i18n do not have active >>> contributions we can collect from git repos listed as

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 03/11/2016 12:45 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2016-03-10 22:05:00 + (+), Tristan Cacqueray wrote: >> Projects such as Openstack UX, Packaging Deb and i18n do not have active >> contributions we can collect from git repos listed as project >> deliverables. For these projects, how can

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 12:11:01PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Jeremy Stanley wrote: > >I guess for teams with no deliverables *and* no extra ATCs, they > >probably also don't need a PTL? > > My take is that those teams do not need to be an official project team > either. We now require some

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

Jeremy Stanley wrote: I guess for teams with no deliverables *and* no extra ATCs, they probably also don't need a PTL? My take is that those teams do not need to be an official project team either. We now require some activity before approving project teams, but packaging-deb passed before

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 11:45:14PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > The electorate rolls for project-teams without any > deliverables/repos end up being limited to the "extra-atc" entries > for them. For example, the I18N team has done an excellent job of > providing a curated list of active

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 03/10/2016 05:45 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: Packaging-Deb is the only one I see in an especially strange state at the moment: it has one existing repo (the rest are phantoms which were never created) with two Gerrit changes, both owned by the team's sole code contributor (based on our

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Question about electorate for project without gerrit contribution

On 2016-03-10 22:05:00 + (+), Tristan Cacqueray wrote: > Projects such as Openstack UX, Packaging Deb and i18n do not have active > contributions we can collect from git repos listed as project > deliverables. For these projects, how can the election officials > validate PTL candidacy and