Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Alan Kavanagh wrote: I posted a query to Ironic which is related to this discussion. My thinking was I want to ensure the case you note here (1) a tenant can not read another tenants disk.. the next (2) was where in Ironic you provision a baremetal server that has an onboard dish as

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Clint Byrum wrote: Is that really a path worth going down, given that tenant-A could just drop evil firmware in any number of places, and thus all tenants afterward are owned anyway? I think a change of subject line is in order for this topic (assuming it hasn't been discussed in sufficient

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread Chris Friesen
On 01/15/2014 11:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Alan Kavanagh's message of 2014-01-15 19:11:03 -0800: Hi Paul I posted a query to Ironic which is related to this discussion. My thinking was I want to ensure the case you note here (1) a tenant can not read another tenants disk..

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread Fox, Kevin M
for. Kevin From: CARVER, PAUL [pc2...@att.com] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:34 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2014-01-16 09:29:14 -0800: Yeah, I think the evil firmware issue is separate and should be solved separately. Ideally, there should be a mode you can set the bare metal server into where firmware updates are not allowed. This is useful to more folks

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from CARVER, PAUL's message of 2014-01-16 05:21:24 -0800: Alan Kavanagh wrote: I posted a query to Ironic which is related to this discussion. My thinking was I want to ensure the case you note here (1) a tenant can not read another tenants disk.. the next (2) was where in

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread Chris Friesen
On 01/16/2014 04:22 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2014-01-16 09:29:14 -0800: Yeah, I think the evil firmware issue is separate and should be solved separately. Ideally, there should be a mode you can set the bare metal server into where firmware updates are

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread Alan Kavanagh
-Original Message- From: CARVER, PAUL [mailto:pc2...@att.com] Sent: January-16-14 8:21 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder. Alan Kavanagh wrote: I posted a query

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread Alan Kavanagh
, imho. Or do others see it differently, if so would like to hear so. /Alan -Original Message- From: CARVER, PAUL [mailto:pc2...@att.com] Sent: January-16-14 8:34 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread Alan Kavanagh
to be made available for provisioning, at least that is my thinking here and the concerns Paul had too. Do I sense a Blueprint!!! Alan -Original Message- From: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: January-16-14 12:25 AM To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alan Kavanagh's message of 2014-01-16 20:28:05 -0800: +1makes sense to me. I will write up a Blueprint for this for review in Ironic and we take it from their. I don't see this as evil firmware, more a good process we need to automate as part of sanity checks before

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Friesen
On 12/26/2013 01:56 AM, cosmos cosmos wrote: Hello. My name is Rucia for Samsung SDS. I had in truouble in volume deleting. I am developing for supporting big data storage such as hadoop in lvm. it use as a full disk io for deleting of cinder lvm volume because of dd the high disk I/O

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] wrote: I read a proposal about using thinly-provisioned logical volumes as a way around the cost of wiping the disks, since they zero-fill on demand rather than incur the cost at deletion time. I think it make a difference where the

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Fox, Kevin M
(not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder. Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] wrote: I read a proposal about using thinly-provisioned logical volumes as a way around the cost of wiping the disks, since they zero-fill

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Friesen
On 01/15/2014 06:00 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: What about a configuration option on the volume for delete type? I can see some possible options: * None - Don't clear on delete. Its junk data for testing and I don't want to wait. * Zero - Return zero's from subsequent reads either by zeroing on

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Jay S Bryant
From: Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 01/15/2014 06:06 PM Subject:Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder. What

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Friesen
On 01/15/2014 06:30 PM, Jay S Bryant wrote: There is already an option that can be set in cinder.conf using 'volume_clear=none' Is there a reason that that option is not sufficient? That option would be for the cloud operator and since it would apply to all volumes on that cinder node. My

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Fox, Kevin M
@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder. On 01/15/2014 06:00 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: What about a configuration option on the volume for delete type? I can see some possible options: * None - Don't clear on delete. Its junk data for testing

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Fox, Kevin M
, January 15, 2014 2:59 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder. Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] wrote: I read a proposal about using thinly-provisioned logical volumes

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 12/26/2013 07:56 AM, cosmos cosmos wrote: Hello. My name is Rucia for Samsung SDS. I had in truouble in volume deleting. I am developing for supporting big data storage such as hadoop in lvm. it use as a full disk io for deleting of cinder lvm volume because of dd the high

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Adrian Otto
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder. That option is too corse. For some vm's, for testing for example, I really dont need it clearing the data, and for some of my tests, I was creating 6 vm's

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Message- From: CARVER, PAUL [mailto:pc2...@att.com] Sent: January-15-14 6:00 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder. Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] wrote: I

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for dd disk i/o performance blueprint of cinder.

2014-01-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alan Kavanagh's message of 2014-01-15 19:11:03 -0800: Hi Paul I posted a query to Ironic which is related to this discussion. My thinking was I want to ensure the case you note here (1) a tenant can not read another tenants disk.. the next (2) was where in Ironic you