Re: [Openstack] Versioning for notification messages

2012-10-10 Thread Day, Phil
Thanks Doug, I'll make sure I get to that session then. Phil From: openstack-bounces+philip.day=hp@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+philip.day=hp@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Doug Hellmann Sent: 09 October 2012 23:03 To: Eric Windisch Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Openstack] Versioning for notification messages

2012-10-10 Thread Day, Phil
Hi All, I guess I may have mis-stated the problem a tad in talking about version numbering. The notification system is an outbound interface, and my interest is in being able to write consumers with some guarantee that they won't be broken as the notification message format evolves. Having

Re: [Openstack] Folsom nova-scheduler race condition?

2012-10-10 Thread Day, Phil
> Per my understanding, this shouldn't happen no matter how (fast) you create > instances since the requests are > queued and scheduler updates resource information after it processes each > request. The only possibility may cause >the problem you met that I can think of is there are more than

Re: [Openstack] Versioning for notification messages

2012-10-10 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
If we want to have a notification system that could handle messages with different payloads and different versions, we have two options: 1) detect the version of the payload in the notification message 2) add a version number in the notification message Option 1 sounds to me like something hard t

Re: [Openstack] Folsom nova-scheduler race condition?

2012-10-10 Thread Huang Zhiteng
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Day, Phil wrote: > >> Per my understanding, this shouldn't happen no matter how (fast) you create >> instances since the requests are >> queued and scheduler updates resource information after it processes each >> request. The only possibility may cause >>the pr

[Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Skible OpenStack
Hi, I proudly present my OpenStack Folsom Install Guide. It's simple, easy to use and most of all well tested. I am counting our your feedback to enhance my work and contribute it to the OpenStack Eco System. Direct access to the guide: OpenStack Folsom Install Guide

[Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Skible OpenStack
Hi, I proudly present my OpenStack Folsom Install Guide. It's simple, easy to use and most of all well tested. I am counting on our your feedback to enhance my work and contribute it to the OpenStack Eco System. Direct access to the guide: OpenStack Folsom Install Guide

[Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Skible OpenStack
Hi, I proudly present my OpenStack Folsom Install Guide. It's simple, easy to use and most of all well tested. I am counting on our your feedback to enhance my work and contribute it to the OpenStack Eco System. Direct access to the guide: OpenStack Folsom Install Guide

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Alan Pevec
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Skible OpenStack wrote: > I am counting on our your feedback to enhance my work and contribute it to > the OpenStack Eco System. I wonder about https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/tree/master/Scripts which say: # Mainly inspired by http

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Skible OpenStack
Le 10/10/2012 11:23, Alan Pevec a écrit : On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Skible OpenStack wrote: I am counting on our your feedback to enhance my work and contribute it to the OpenStack Eco System. I wonder about https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/tree/master/Scr

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Emilien Macchi
Hi, Great job ! I suggest some things : - glance add command is deprecated, please use "glance image-create". - no need to modify ownership for nova. - typo here : /etc/cinder/api-paste.init (it's a INI file) - for Quantum, you are using the use case in which only one tenant can reach external

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Skible OpenStack
Thanks Emilien for your suggestions, this really means a lot to me :) So, first 1- glance image-create has another set of flags (couldn't figure them out yet, so i just used the old one which works very fine), I will update it as soon as possible ! 2- i had a problem with nova ownership, so

Re: [Openstack] Versioning for notification messages

2012-10-10 Thread Day, Phil
Whilst a version number would allow a consumer to detect that something has changed, it doesn't really help in providing any kind of backward compatibility. Consider the following scenario: There are a bunch of systems external to Nova developed to consume notification messages, and someone intr

Re: [Openstack] Versioning for notification messages

2012-10-10 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
If you are proposing a new interface to the existing notification system that could be stable enough to 'survive' multiple versions, then I agree. The trade-off is we will loose information of the payload, unless somebody out there have a magic solution for this (and probably the version number is

[Openstack] [swift] Updating object metadata in swift

2012-10-10 Thread Koert van der Veer
The documentation of Swift describes how it is possible to change metadata entries, asif it were a key-value store. However, I was surprised to learn that metadata is treated as a whole, and posting one metadata header, will delete all other existing meta data. This is particularly risky if things

Re: [Openstack] Versioning for notification messages

2012-10-10 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/09/2012 04:12 PM, Eric Windisch wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 at 15:58 PM, David Ripton wrote: > >> On 10/09/2012 01:07 PM, Day, Phil wrote: >> >>> What do people think about adding a version number to the notification >>> systems, so that consumers of notification messages a

Re: [Openstack] Versioning for notification messages

2012-10-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey Phil! The notifications have been quite stable for some time now. I'm adding some basic protocol tweaks (supporting the compute.instance.update messages and fixing some confusion in the instance_uuid naming), but also making larger changes: 1. StackTach can now be used across cells in a si

Re: [Openstack] Please provide the step by step guide for 3 node swift instalation steps

2012-10-10 Thread John Raja
Dear Anne, Sorry to disturbing you again and again, I have only Two Servers, 1) One server I installed Ubuntu 12.04 - This is for Proxy 2) Other i installed VMware Esxi, And created two VMs - Storage Nodes This is the rightway to do this or i am doing wrong. And Explain How many minimum server req

Re: [Openstack] Versioning for notification messages

2012-10-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:02 AM, "Day, Phil" wrote: > Whilst a version number would allow a consumer to detect that something has > changed, it doesn’t really help in providing any kind of backward > compatibility. > Consider the following scenario: There are a bunch of systems external to > No

Re: [Openstack] Bottleneck of message queue

2012-10-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey Howard, Queues are generally in memory, but you may turn on persistent (disk) queues in your environment. So that's your limitation. Having rabbitmq on a different server is a good idea. Also, Queues are only used for control, not user data, so they shouldn't be that big of a burden. Havi

Re: [Openstack] Versioning for notification messages

2012-10-10 Thread Yun Mao
Just a thought - this sounds like systems such as Google protocol buffer are for, where multiple versions of structured data is serialized/deserialized. Thanks, Yun On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Day, Phil wrote: > Hi All, > > I guess I may have mis-stated the problem a tad in talking about ve

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Adam Young
On 10/10/2012 05:27 AM, Skible OpenStack wrote: Le 10/10/2012 11:23, Alan Pevec a écrit : On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Skible OpenStack wrote: I am counting on our your feedback to enhance my work and contribute it to the OpenStack Eco System. I wonder about https://github.com/mseknibil

Re: [Openstack] Please provide the step by step guide for 3 node swift instalation steps

2012-10-10 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:14 AM, John Raja wrote: > Dear Anne, > Sorry to disturbing you again and again, No worries there. I have only Two Servers, Okay, for most Object Storage use cases you want replication and redundancy because you have many servers, many objects, and want to protect your

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Skible OpenStack
Le 10/10/2012 14:53, Adam Young a écrit : On 10/10/2012 05:27 AM, Skible OpenStack wrote: Le 10/10/2012 11:23, Alan Pevec a écrit : On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Skible OpenStack wrote: I am counting on our your feedback to enhance my work and contribute it to the OpenStack Eco System. I

[Openstack] Cannot ping nor SSH to VM

2012-10-10 Thread Daniel Oliveira
Hello. I've successfully installed openstack on a machine running Ubuntu Server 12.04 this morning. I had a problem, though. I cannot ping/SSH to any VM I create, and I've already entered secgroup-add-rule commands for both, so I think it comes down to network configuration. Can anyone help me? Tha

Re: [Openstack] Bottleneck of message queue

2012-10-10 Thread Hao Wang
Thanks guys for your insightful replies. I'm studying them. If I've got anything, I'll get back to you as soon as possible. Have a nice day! Cheers, Howard On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Sandy Walsh wrote: > Hey Howard, > > Queues are generally in memory, but you may turn on persistent (disk)

Re: [Openstack] Cannot ping nor SSH to VM

2012-10-10 Thread Dave Pigott
Have you set multi_hopst? This was my problem when I encountered it. You also have to do a db-sync afterwards. Dave On 10 Oct 2012, at 14:37, Daniel Oliveira wrote: > Hello. I've successfully installed openstack on a machine running Ubuntu > Server 12.04 this morning. I had a problem, though.

Re: [Openstack] Folsom nova-scheduler race condition?

2012-10-10 Thread Jonathan Proulx
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Huang Zhiteng wrote: > Yes, but it seems Jonathan's filter list doesn't include RetryFilter, > so it's possible that he ran into a race condition that RetryFilter > targeted to solve. Yes, that was it exactly. Thank you for seeing the obvious think I was missing

Re: [Openstack] Cinder Improvement for Grizzly

2012-10-10 Thread Akira Yoshiyama
2012/10/10 John Griffith : > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Akira Yoshiyama > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I want to join the next design summit but I can't because of the current >> job. >> So I wrote my ideas for cinder improvement to etherpad. >> I hope someone will take up them (or a part o

Re: [Openstack] Cannot ping nor SSH to VM

2012-10-10 Thread Daniel Oliveira
Nevermind. I had to reboot the machine, now there are no services running anymore. I can't figure out anything, I'm starting to feel so damn helpless... 2012/10/10 Dave Pigott > Have you set multi_hopst? This was my problem when I encountered it. You > also have to do a db-sync afterwards. > > D

Re: [Openstack] metadata api with Quantum and provider networks

2012-10-10 Thread Jānis Ģeņģeris
Hi, Thanks for you patience Dan answering all the questions, I have solved all the issues and got the thing working. I could possibly add some content to the Quantum docs about my experience, who should I contant in this regard? Regards, --janis ___ Ma

Re: [Openstack] metadata api with Quantum and provider networks

2012-10-10 Thread Dan Wendlandt
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Jānis Ģeņģeris wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for you patience Dan answering all the questions, I have solved all > the issues and got the thing working. > > I could possibly add some content to the Quantum docs about my experience, > who should I contant in this regard?

[Openstack] What's Up Doc? Oct. 10 2012

2012-10-10 Thread Anne Gentle
Just a quick update on progress on the docs. Looking forward to next week in San Diego! I'd like to set up a Doc test area at the OpenStack Summit next week. Contact me if you're interested in helping. I'd like to set up a laptop so we can show the docs, test the docs, and demonstrate the doc proce

Re: [Openstack] Cannot ping nor SSH to VM

2012-10-10 Thread Daniel Oliveira
Yes Dave, I have multi_host set. Thanks anyway! I know this might be very annoying, and I'm so sorry for this, but I need some help ASAP. I managed to install everything again, okay. The problem is, after I reboot the machine, all modules go "xxx". What should I do? I installed openstack via devSt

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Joshua Harlow
You guys should also consider the 'anvil' way of doing this (pure python baby, haha). Which is improved from lorin's and has been working for yahoo! for a while now. https://github.com/yahoo/Openstack-Anvil/blob/master/anvil/components/helpe rs/keystone.py#L25 Please feel free to take the code!!

Re: [Openstack] Bottleneck of message queue

2012-10-10 Thread Joshua Harlow
Also some real data/graphs/metrics if u have anything would go a long way in helping others see the problem. Without data though its hard to know what is broke, what is the limit, and what needs to be fixed. -Josh From: Hao Wang mailto:hao.1.w...@gmail.com>> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Dolph Mathews
I'd like to simplify the scope of sample_data.sh to the absolute bare minimum (service tenant, admin role, admin user, identity service/endpoints, etc), and integrate it into keystone-manage as a 'bootstrap' command: $ keystone-manage bootstrap -Dolph On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Joshu

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Joshua Harlow
That sounds great to me. I can help out in converting this code into that code. It seems like a trivial kind of thing to do, what format would that command take, a yaml file? Something similar to https://github.com/yahoo/Openstack-Anvil/blob/master/conf/templates/keystone/init_what.yaml maybe,

[Openstack] Remote participation to Design Summit (was Re: [openstack] Summit coverage)

2012-10-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 10/03/2012 03:33 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: Indeed, I've been working with WebEx to have a good experience for remote participation this year. I'm putting together the final details before I can push a full announcement. Having the calendar of the design summit (nearly) finalized by the end o

Re: [Openstack] Cannot ping nor SSH to VM

2012-10-10 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Oct 10, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Daniel Oliveira wrote: > Yes Dave, I have multi_host set. Thanks anyway! > > I know this might be very annoying, and I'm so sorry for this, but I need > some help ASAP. I managed to install everything again, okay. The problem is, > after I reboot the machine, all

[Openstack] Volume Attachments API question

2012-10-10 Thread Jose Idar
I've noticed in testing that only way reliably to delete a volume attachment is to keep sending delete requests to the volume attachments api until the request is accepted and either a 2XX or 404 is returned. Is there any plan to include some kind of atomic scheduled delete that would alleviat

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Dolph Mathews
I played around with the idea this afternoon, and settled on something as simple as this in keystoneclient rather than keystone-manage: $ keystone help bootstrap usage: keystone bootstrap [--user-name ] --pass [--role-name ] [--tenant-name ] Gr

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Joshua Harlow
I second this idea, seems like a good way forward. From: Dolph Mathews mailto:dolph.math...@gmail.com>> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:33 PM To: Joshua Harlow mailto:harlo...@yahoo-inc.com>> Cc: Alan Pevec mailto:ape...@gmail.com>>, Skible OpenStack mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com>>, "ope

Re: [Openstack] A simple guide to install OpenStack Folsom

2012-10-10 Thread Asher Newcomer
Hi, This is great stuff. This is a nicely distilled version of the official docs for anyone looking for a quick outline, and this includes quantum rather than nova-net. Thanks much - just what I've been after. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:48 AM, Skible OpenStack < skible.openst...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Openstack] How can I choose my own timezone on Dashboard of Essex?

2012-10-10 Thread Ray Sun
In the Dashboard of Essex version, seems the datetime is always displayed as UTC time, How can I choose my own timezone? Thanks. - Ray Yours faithfully, Kind regards. CIeNET Technologies (Beijing) Co., Ltd Email: qsun01...@cienet.com.cn Office Phone: +86-01081470088-7079 Mobile Phone: +86-1890111

Re: [Openstack] Please provide the step by step guide for 3 node swift instalation steps

2012-10-10 Thread John Raja
How many minimum servers required for a simple production setup?.. *Regards, John Raja **Ip Extn :- 509028 Tel:- 022-40609028* ** On Wed, Oc