Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-05 Thread Christopher B Ferris
-1

Gazelle seems to carry more of the characteristics we would want (nimble, 
quick). Grizzly carries rather grim connotations
 of mauling, lumbering, and having a rather nasty disposition. I would not want 
that in a cloud.

Also, as an adjective, grizzly means 'showing characteristics of age, 
especially having grey or white hair'.

While the name may sound cool, it is actually ill fitting.

Cheers,

Christopher Ferris
IBM Distinguished Engineer, CTO Industry and Cloud Standards
Member, IBM Academy of Technology
IBM Software Group, Standards Strategy
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Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

 
+1 grizzly 
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Gabriel Hurley
gabriel.hur...@nebula.com wrote:
 
   
   
 +1 on #8220;close enough to an arbitrary territory and also a great 
 name#8221;.
;-)
  
 Also, the Grizzly is the California state animal:
 http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/California/animal_grizzly_bear.html
  
 Food for thought.
  
  -  Gabriel
  
 
 
 
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 TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'
  
  
  As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting
with a G that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I
have had to look *slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G'
release name - that name being  'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that
a release name must represent a city or county near the corresponding
design summit and be comprised of a single word of ten characters or
less - the problem here being that 'Grizzly' is actually 'Grizzly
Flats.' Having  already polled a small subset of the community, I feel
like there would be enough support for 'Grizzly' to win if it were on
the ballot. As I'm more interested in selecting a suitable name than
accurately representing some arbitrary territory, I'd love to  either
permanently amend the rules to make this acceptable or grant an
exception in this one case. As Thierry said, if this reaches critical
mass, we will figure out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut up and deal
with 'Gazelle'.
 
 
 
 
  
  
 Brian
 
  
  
  
 
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
  
 
 
 
 Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the
name
 of the next OpenStack release !
 
 This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being the
 location of the G design summit)
 
 I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rules
 of naming) at:
 
 https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naming
 
 Poll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad,
and
 ends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!
 
 I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules
so
 that another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (or
 modify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reaches
 critical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)
 
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-05 Thread Andrew Hutchings

But on the flip side, Gazelles get eaten by lions.  Read into that what
you will :)

Kind Regards
Andrew

On 05/07/12 11:41, Christopher B Ferris wrote:
 -1
 
 Gazelle seems to carry more of the characteristics we would want (nimble, 
 quick). Grizzly carries rather grim connotations
  of mauling, lumbering, and having a rather nasty disposition. I would not 
 want that in a cloud.
 
 Also, as an adjective, grizzly means 'showing characteristics of age, 
 especially having grey or white hair'.
 
 While the name may sound cool, it is actually ill fitting.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Christopher Ferris
 IBM Distinguished Engineer, CTO Industry and Cloud Standards
 Member, IBM Academy of Technology
 IBM Software Group, Standards Strategy
 email: chris...@us.ibm.com
 Twitter: christo4ferris
 phone: +1 508 234 2986
 
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 Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net   \(openstack@lists.launchpad.net\)
 openstack@lists.launchpad.net, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org
 Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

 
 +1 grizzly 

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Gabriel Hurley
 gabriel.hur...@nebula.com wrote:

   
   
 +1 on #8220;close enough to an arbitrary territory and also a great 
 name#8221;.
 ;-)
  
 Also, the Grizzly is the California state animal:
  http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/California/animal_grizzly_bear.html
  
 Food for thought.
  
  -  Gabriel
  



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 ] On Behalf Of Brian Waldon
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 Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll


 TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'
  
  
  As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting
 with a G that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I
 have had to look *slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G'
 release name - that name being  'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that
 a release name must represent a city or county near the corresponding
 design summit and be comprised of a single word of ten characters or
 less - the problem here being that 'Grizzly' is actually 'Grizzly
 Flats.' Having  already polled a small subset of the community, I feel
 like there would be enough support for 'Grizzly' to win if it were on
 the ballot. As I'm more interested in selecting a suitable name than
 accurately representing some arbitrary territory, I'd love to  either
 permanently amend the rules to make this acceptable or grant an
 exception in this one case. As Thierry said, if this reaches critical
 mass, we will figure out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut up and deal
 with 'Gazelle'.




  
  
 Brian

  
  
  


 On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
  



 Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the
 name
 of the next OpenStack release !

 This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being the
 location of the G design summit)

 I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rules
 of naming) at:

 https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naming

 Poll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad,
 and
 ends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!

 I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules
 so
 that another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (or
 modify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reaches
 critical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)

 -- 
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-05 Thread Mark Collier
That's a good point. I think at this stage just having grizzly on the ballot is 
a fair next step. 



On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Christopher B Ferris chris...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 -1
 
 Gazelle seems to carry more of the characteristics we would want (nimble, 
 quick). Grizzly carries rather grim connotations
 of mauling, lumbering, and having a rather nasty disposition. I would not 
 want that in a cloud.
 
 Also, as an adjective, grizzly means 'showing characteristics of age, 
 especially having grey or white hair'.
 
 While the name may sound cool, it is actually ill fitting.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Christopher Ferris
 IBM Distinguished Engineer, CTO Industry and Cloud Standards
 Member, IBM Academy of Technology
 IBM Software Group, Standards Strategy
 email: chris...@us.ibm.com
 Twitter: christo4ferris
 phone: +1 508 234 2986
 
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 To: Gabriel Hurley gabriel.hur...@nebula.com
 From: Mark Collier 
 Sent by: openstack-bounces+chrisfer=us.ibm@lists.launchpad.net
 Date: 07/03/2012 09:46PM
 Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net\(openstack@lists.launchpad.net\)
 openstack@lists.launchpad.net, ThierryCarrez thie...@openstack.org
 Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll
 
 
 +1 grizzly 
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Gabriel Hurley
 gabriel.hur...@nebula.com wrote:
 
 
 
 +1 on #8220;close enough to an arbitrary territory and also a great 
 name#8221;.
 ;-)
  
 Also, the Grizzly is the California state animal:
  http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/California/animal_grizzly_bear.html
  
 Food for thought.
  
 -  Gabriel
  
 
 
 
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 ] On Behalf Of Brian Waldon
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:50 PM
 To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net (openstack@lists.launchpad.net)
 Cc: Thierry Carrez
 Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll
   
 
 TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'
 
  
 As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting
 with a G that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I
 have had to look *slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G'
 release name - that name being  'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that
 a release name must represent a city or county near the corresponding
 design summit and be comprised of a single word of ten characters or
 less - the problem here being that 'Grizzly' is actually 'Grizzly
 Flats.' Having  already polled a small subset of the community, I feel
 like there would be enough support for 'Grizzly' to win if it were on
 the ballot. As I'm more interested in selecting a suitable name than
 accurately representing some arbitrary territory, I'd love to  either
 permanently amend the rules to make this acceptable or grant an
 exception in this one case. As Thierry said, if this reaches critical
 mass, we will figure out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut up and deal
 with 'Gazelle'.
 
 
 
 
  
 
 Brian
 
  
 
  
 
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the
 name
 of the next OpenStack release !
 
 This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being the
 location of the G design summit)
 
 I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rules
 of naming) at:
 
 https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naming
 
 Poll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad,
 and
 ends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!
 
 I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules
 so
 that another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (or
 modify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reaches
 critical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)
 
 -- 
 Thierry Carrez (ttx)
 Release Manager, OpenStack
 
 
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-05 Thread Thierry Carrez
Mark Collier wrote:
 That's a good point. I think at this stage just having grizzly on the ballot 
 is a fair next step. 

Due to limitations in the Launchpad poll system you can't modify (or
cancel) a poll so I had to create a second poll about prefering Grizzly
over anything else that would be chosen by the normal poll.

See https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg14199.html for details.

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-05 Thread Atul Jha
+1  to Grizzly
I have already voted. :)



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Mark Collier wrote:
 That's a good point. I think at this stage just having grizzly on the ballot 
 is a fair next step.

Due to limitations in the Launchpad poll system you can't modify (or
cancel) a poll so I had to create a second poll about prefering Grizzly
over anything else that would be chosen by the normal poll.

See https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg14199.html for details.

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-04 Thread Razique Mahroua
Done :-)
Nuage  Co - Razique Mahrouarazique.mahr...@gmail.com

Le 4 juil. 2012 à 00:20, Thierry Carrez a écrit :Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the nameof the next OpenStack release !This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being thelocation of the G design summit)I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rulesof naming) at:https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-namingPoll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad, andends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules sothat another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (ormodify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reachescritical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)-- Thierry Carrez (ttx)Release Manager, OpenStack___Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstackPost to : openstack@lists.launchpad.netUnsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstackMore help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp___
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-04 Thread Thierry Carrez
James E. Blair wrote:
 Brian Waldon brian.wal...@rackspace.com writes:
 TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'
 [...]
 
 I will join your Bear Flag Revolt. 

OK, OK, Jim's flag convinced me, I absolutely need a T-shirt with that.

So I set up a /second/ poll that basically says, ignore the result of
the other one and go for Grizzly:

https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-stands-for-grizzly

Launchpad polls need to be created 12 hours before they open (sucks) so
it's not available yet (opens at 20:00 UTC today), and will end at the
same date as the other one. Combining the two results we should be able
to have a winner !

We'll advertise both starting tomorrow on
blogs/Twitter/whatever-is-cool-today :)

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-04 Thread Thierry Carrez
Brian Waldon wrote:
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
 At the g summit, we'd tell everyone where the next summit is:
 At the g summit, we'd vote and announce the name of h
 We wouldn't have to spend half the cycle saying h, or whatever when we
 mean we're going to defer that crazy idea until next time
 I wouldn't have had to use the letter g by itself twice just above here.
 
 Fantastic idea. 
 
 I haven't been involved in choosing the next location, so I'm not sure how 
 hard it would be to choose it that far in advance. Maybe somebody can comment 
 on how doable this is?

It's definitely doable (and desirable). Actually that's the plan for the
next one: close the date and location deal before the summit so that we
can announce the next one during the summit itself.

So we would definitely vote in person (like we did for Cactus at the
Bexar summit), so much funnier than a Launchpad poll.

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-04 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 10:02:46AM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
 Brian Waldon wrote:
  On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
  At the g summit, we'd tell everyone where the next summit is:
  At the g summit, we'd vote and announce the name of h
  We wouldn't have to spend half the cycle saying h, or whatever when we
  mean we're going to defer that crazy idea until next time
  I wouldn't have had to use the letter g by itself twice just above here.
  
  Fantastic idea. 
  
  I haven't been involved in choosing the next location, so I'm not sure how 
  hard it would be to choose it that far in advance. Maybe somebody can 
  comment on how doable this is?
 
 It's definitely doable (and desirable). Actually that's the plan for the
 next one: close the date and location deal before the summit so that we
 can announce the next one during the summit itself.
 
 So we would definitely vote in person (like we did for Cactus at the
 Bexar summit), so much funnier than a Launchpad poll.

I'd be against doing a vote in person at the summit on the basis that
this would exclude a large portion of the community who are unable to
attend :-( A online poll is fully inclusive of the OpenStack community.

I think the same point applies more broadly to any important decisions
related to the project, for which the community is ultimately responsible.
Meeting people face-to-face for technical presentations / discussions
/ debates is a productive way of examining difficult issues, but those
who are unfortunate enough to not attend summits can feel very isolated.
This leads to people feeling there is a 2-tier community. To counter this,
IMHO, it is important to communicate important decisions resulting from
f-2-f meetings to the community  provide a means for them to add any
relevant feedback  influence decisions.

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Brian Waldon
TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'

As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting with a G 
that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I have had to look 
*slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G' release name - that name 
being 'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that a release name must represent a 
city or county near the corresponding design summit and be comprised of a 
single word of ten characters or less - the problem here being that 'Grizzly' 
is actually 'Grizzly Flats.' Having already polled a small subset of the 
community, I feel like there would be enough support for 'Grizzly' to win if it 
were on the ballot. As I'm more interested in selecting a suitable name than 
accurately representing some arbitrary territory, I'd love to either 
permanently amend the rules to make this acceptable or grant an exception in 
this one case. As Thierry said, if this reaches critical mass, we will figure 
out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut up and deal with 'Gazelle'.

Brian


On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

 Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the name
 of the next OpenStack release !
 
 This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being the
 location of the G design summit)
 
 I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rules
 of naming) at:
 
 https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naming
 
 Poll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad, and
 ends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!
 
 I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules so
 that another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (or
 modify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reaches
 critical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)
 
 -- 
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 Release Manager, OpenStack
 
 
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Paul McMillan

On 07/03/2012 04:50 PM, Brian Waldon wrote:

TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'


Do it!




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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Nathanael Burton
+1 for Grizzly
On Jul 3, 2012 8:02 PM, Brian Waldon brian.wal...@rackspace.com wrote:

 TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'

 As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting with a
 G that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I have had to
 look *slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G' release name -
 that name being 'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that a release name must
 represent a city or county near the corresponding design summit and be
 comprised of a single word of ten characters or less - the problem here
 being that 'Grizzly' is actually 'Grizzly Flats.' Having already polled a
 small subset of the community, I feel like there would be enough support
 for 'Grizzly' to win if it were on the ballot. As I'm more interested in
 selecting a suitable name than accurately representing some arbitrary
 territory, I'd love to either permanently amend the rules to make this
 acceptable or grant an exception in this one case. As Thierry said, if this
 reaches critical mass, we will figure out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut
 up and deal with '*Gazelle*'.

 Brian


 On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

 Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the name
 of the next OpenStack release !

 This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being the
 location of the G design summit)

 I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rules
 of naming) at:

 https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naming

 Poll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad, and
 ends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!

 I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules so
 that another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (or
 modify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reaches
 critical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)

 --
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Gabriel Hurley
+1 on close enough to an arbitrary territory and also a great name. ;-)

Also, the Grizzly is the California state animal:  
http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/California/animal_grizzly_bear.html

Food for thought.


-  Gabriel

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Behalf Of Brian Waldon
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:50 PM
To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net (openstack@lists.launchpad.net)
Cc: Thierry Carrez
Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'

As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting with a G 
that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I have had to look 
*slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G' release name - that name 
being 'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that a release name must represent a 
city or county near the corresponding design summit and be comprised of a 
single word of ten characters or less - the problem here being that 'Grizzly' 
is actually 'Grizzly Flats.' Having already polled a small subset of the 
community, I feel like there would be enough support for 'Grizzly' to win if it 
were on the ballot. As I'm more interested in selecting a suitable name than 
accurately representing some arbitrary territory, I'd love to either 
permanently amend the rules to make this acceptable or grant an exception in 
this one case. As Thierry said, if this reaches critical mass, we will figure 
out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut up and deal with 'Gazelle'.

Brian


On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:


Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the name
of the next OpenStack release !

This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being the
location of the G design summit)

I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rules
of naming) at:

https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naming

Poll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad, and
ends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!

I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules so
that another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (or
modify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reaches
critical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Monty Taylor
tl;dr - Screw the rules, I agree

Let's at least add it to the poll.

Also - I think we should further amend the rules such that we select the
NEXT release by the summit for the current release. That means two things:

At the g summit, we'd tell everyone where the next summit is:
At the g summit, we'd vote and announce the name of h
We wouldn't have to spend half the cycle saying h, or whatever when we
mean we're going to defer that crazy idea until next time
I wouldn't have had to use the letter g by itself twice just above here.

On 07/03/2012 06:50 PM, Brian Waldon wrote:
 TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'
 
 As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting with
 a G that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I have had
 to look *slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G' release
 name - that name being 'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that a release
 name must represent a city or county near the corresponding design
 summit and be comprised of a single word of ten characters or less - the
 problem here being that 'Grizzly' is actually 'Grizzly Flats.' Having
 already polled a small subset of the community, I feel like there would
 be enough support for 'Grizzly' to win if it were on the ballot. As I'm
 more interested in selecting a suitable name than accurately
 representing some arbitrary territory, I'd love to either permanently
 amend the rules to make this acceptable or grant an exception in this
 one case. As Thierry said, if this reaches critical mass, we will figure
 out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut up and deal with '/Gazelle/'.
 
 Brian
 
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
 
 Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the name
 of the next OpenStack release !

 This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being the
 location of the G design summit)

 I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rules
 of naming) at:

 https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naming

 Poll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad, and
 ends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!

 I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules so
 that another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (or
 modify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reaches
 critical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)

 -- 
 Thierry Carrez (ttx)
 Release Manager, OpenStack


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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Monty Taylor


On 07/03/2012 07:29 PM, Brian Waldon wrote:
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
 
 tl;dr - Screw the rules, I agree

 Let's at least add it to the poll.

 Also - I think we should further amend the rules such that we select the
 NEXT release by the summit for the current release. That means two things:

 At the g summit, we'd tell everyone where the next summit is:
 At the g summit, we'd vote and announce the name of h
 We wouldn't have to spend half the cycle saying h, or whatever when we
 mean we're going to defer that crazy idea until next time
 I wouldn't have had to use the letter g by itself twice just above here.
 
 Fantastic idea. 
 
 I haven't been involved in choosing the next location, so I'm not sure how 
 hard it would be to choose it that far in advance. Maybe somebody can comment 
 on how doable this is?

I actually think it's HARDER to not choose it that far in advance,
because the longer you wait, the more places are booked already.
Although it's not exactly the same - linux conf australia always
announces the location of the next conference at the current conference
- and those are yearly. Also, they have a rotating set of host teams...
so basically a team from a town puts in a proposal to linux.au saying
we'd like to host the next one, here's what we're going to do, here's
where we're going to have it, blah blah blah - and then one of them
gets selected, and then they're the poor sods that have to actually run
the darned thing.

So to stick my nose WAY in where it doesn't belong, once we have the
foundation - what if we move to a model of having folks propose that
they'd like to host the design summit? We can make a CFP-style deadline,
and people can all pitch their location, and one can get chosen and
announced by Thierry at a closing session or whatnot. That way if I
wanted to get together with some other folks and say hey guys, I've got
10 rooms that NYU has donated, and I'll provide these facilities - then
great, or if mercado libre wanted to say zomg - we totally going to
bring you all to the Shearton WTC in Sao Paulo - or NTT was all dude,
we've got a thousand rooms in the middle of Tokyo or Rackspace went I
don't know if anybody noticed, but we bought a shopping mall a few years
ago and it's got conference rooms ... the folks can sit in a room, look
at the proposals, say things like wow, I really don't want to sit in
the castle all week when I sit there all week anyway - but drinking with
Monty in the Lower East Side at a bar that has freezer they'll lock you
in with a bottle of vodka sounds like a great way to plan the Houston
release (that's how-ston for all you Texans) -- it would almost be like
distributed development with code review.

Of course, if that flys I guess I'm going to have to figure out how to
take everyone to Mehanata...

Monty

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Mark Collier
+1 grizzly

On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Gabriel Hurley 
gabriel.hur...@nebula.commailto:gabriel.hur...@nebula.com wrote:

+1 on “close enough to an arbitrary territory and also a great name”. ;-)

Also, the Grizzly is the California state animal:  
http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/California/animal_grizzly_bear.html

Food for thought.


-  Gabriel

From: 
openstack-bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebula@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack-bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebula@lists.launchpad.net
 
[mailto:openstack-bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebula@lists.launchpad.netmailto:bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebula@lists.launchpad.net]
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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:50 PM
To: openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net 
(openstack@lists.launchpad.netmailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net)
Cc: Thierry Carrez
Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'

As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting with a G 
that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I have had to look 
*slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G' release name - that name 
being 'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that a release name must represent a 
city or county near the corresponding design summit and be comprised of a 
single word of ten characters or less - the problem here being that 'Grizzly' 
is actually 'Grizzly Flats.' Having already polled a small subset of the 
community, I feel like there would be enough support for 'Grizzly' to win if it 
were on the ballot. As I'm more interested in selecting a suitable name than 
accurately representing some arbitrary territory, I'd love to either 
permanently amend the rules to make this acceptable or grant an exception in 
this one case. As Thierry said, if this reaches critical mass, we will figure 
out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut up and deal with 'Gazelle'.

Brian


On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:


Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the name
of the next OpenStack release !

This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being the
location of the G design summit)

I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rules
of naming) at:

https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naming

Poll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad, and
ends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!

I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules so
that another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (or
modify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reaches
critical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)

--
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Monty Taylor


On 07/03/2012 07:33 PM, James E. Blair wrote:
 Brian Waldon brian.wal...@rackspace.com writes:
 
 TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'

 As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting
 with a G that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I
 have had to look *slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G'
 release name - that name being 'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that
 a release name must represent a city or county near the corresponding
 design summit and be comprised of a single word of ten characters or
 less - the problem here being that 'Grizzly' is actually 'Grizzly
 Flats.' Having already polled a small subset of the community, I feel
 like there would be enough support for 'Grizzly' to win if it were on
 the ballot. As I'm more interested in selecting a suitable name than
 accurately representing some arbitrary territory, I'd love to either
 permanently amend the rules to make this acceptable or grant an
 exception in this one case. As Thierry said, if this reaches critical
 mass, we will figure out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut up and deal
 with 'Gazelle'.
 
 I will join your Bear Flag Revolt. 

Best. Picture. Ever. We have a G winner... and honestly, if that's not
the t-shirt then I'm going to have my own bear flag revolt.

Grizzly FTW

 
 We could amend the rules to add official symbols of the territory in
 question.  Despite being one of the most recognized symbols of
 California, named the state animal, and appearing on the state flag, the
 Grizzly bear (Ursus californicus) has been extinct here since 1922.
 
 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Republic#Bear_Flag_Revolt
 
 -Jim
 Though as a Firesign Theatre fan, I like Goshen too.
 
 
 
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Dan Wendlandt
I would like to come out as strongly pro-Grizzly.

I wonder if this release name would make Thierry the moma grizzly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mama_grizzly

dan

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:33 AM, James E. Blair cor...@inaugust.com wrote:

 Brian Waldon brian.wal...@rackspace.com writes:

  TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'
 
  As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting
  with a G that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I
  have had to look *slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G'
  release name - that name being 'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that
  a release name must represent a city or county near the corresponding
  design summit and be comprised of a single word of ten characters or
  less - the problem here being that 'Grizzly' is actually 'Grizzly
  Flats.' Having already polled a small subset of the community, I feel
  like there would be enough support for 'Grizzly' to win if it were on
  the ballot. As I'm more interested in selecting a suitable name than
  accurately representing some arbitrary territory, I'd love to either
  permanently amend the rules to make this acceptable or grant an
  exception in this one case. As Thierry said, if this reaches critical
  mass, we will figure out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut up and deal
  with 'Gazelle'.

 I will join your Bear Flag Revolt.



 We could amend the rules to add official symbols of the territory in
 question.  Despite being one of the most recognized symbols of
 California, named the state animal, and appearing on the state flag, the
 Grizzly bear (Ursus californicus) has been extinct here since 1922.

 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Republic#Bear_Flag_Revolt

 -Jim
 Though as a Firesign Theatre fan, I like Goshen too.

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

2012-07-03 Thread Matt Joyce
Grizzly is better than people making who is john galt jokes.

+1 to grizzly.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Mark Collier mark.coll...@rackspace.comwrote:

  +1 grizzly


 On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Gabriel Hurley gabriel.hur...@nebula.com
 wrote:

   +1 on “close enough to an arbitrary territory and also a great name”.
 ;-)

 ** **

 Also, the Grizzly is the California state animal:
 http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/California/animal_grizzly_bear.html

 ** **

 Food for thought.

 ** **

 -  Gabriel

 ** **

 *From:* 
 openstack-bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebula@lists.launchpad.net[mailto:
 openstack-bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebula@lists.launchpad.net] *On
 Behalf Of *Brian Waldon
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:50 PM
 *To:* openstack@lists.launchpad.net (openstack@lists.launchpad.net)
 *Cc:* Thierry Carrez
 *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] OpenStack G naming poll

 ** **

 TL;DR - Screw the rules, let's call the next release 'Grizzly'

 ** **

 As California is rather lacking in the 'municipality names starting with a
 G that we should use for an OpenStack release' department, I have had to
 look *slightly* outside the ruleset to find a suitable 'G' release name -
 that name being 'Grizzly'. The rules clearly state that a release name must
 represent a city or county near the corresponding design summit and be
 comprised of a single word of ten characters or less - the problem here
 being that 'Grizzly' is actually 'Grizzly Flats.' Having already polled a
 small subset of the community, I feel like there would be enough support
 for 'Grizzly' to win if it were on the ballot. As I'm more interested in
 selecting a suitable name than accurately representing some arbitrary
 territory, I'd love to either permanently amend the rules to make this
 acceptable or grant an exception in this one case. As Thierry said, if this
 reaches critical mass, we will figure out what to do. Otherwise, I'll shut
 up and deal with '*Gazelle*'.

 ** **

 Brian

 ** **

 ** **

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:



 

 Yes, it's that time of the year again... time for us to choose the name
 of the next OpenStack release !

 This time, cities and counties in California (San Diego, CA being the
 location of the G design summit)

 I set up a poll with the available options (based on our current rules
 of naming) at:

 https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naminghttps://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack/+poll/g-release-naming

 Poll is accessible to all members of ~openstack group in Launchpad, and
 ends next Tuesday, 21:30 UTC. Please cast your vote!

 I'm aware that a subversive movement wants to try to amend the rules so
 that another name option becomes available. Since we can't stop (or
 modify) the poll now that it's been launched, if that movement reaches
 critical mass, we may organize a second round of polling :)

 --
 Thierry Carrez (ttx)
 Release Manager, OpenStack


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