Den Sunday 03 June 2007 01:19:55 skrev Ted Bullock:
Why do you believe that waiting until later is a good idea?
AJ said he'd like a bugday sometime before feature freeze. So sometime between
last alpha and first beta, seems a good idea.
Having an earlier bugday too might be doable and would be
Martin Schlander wrote:
That would mean the devs are aware of them and haven't been able to fix them
for ages? Do you mean community people should be able to fix them in an
afternoon? If not all we can do is provide info and perhaps alter status of
some bugs.. house cleaning.
don't forget
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Martin Schlander wrote:
That would mean the devs are aware of them and haven't been able to
fix them for ages? Do you mean community people should be able to fix
them in an afternoon? If not all we can do is provide info and perhaps
Donn Washburn wrote:
Has anyone found a usable version of libiconv that works with
gcc (GCC) 4.1.3 20070430 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux) . It is not on
the CDs. It is needed by AmArok and since SuSE's version is boken I was
going build my own working version of 1.4.5
libiconv-1.9.1.tar.gz
Donn Washburn kirjoitti:
Has anyone found a usable version of libiconv that works with
gcc (GCC) 4.1.3 20070430 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux) . It is not on
the CDs. It is needed by AmArok and since SuSE's version is boken I
was going build my own working version of 1.4.5
I made a program that
Il giorno sab, 02/06/2007 alle 17.19 -0600, Ted Bullock ha scritto:
Why do you believe that waiting until later is a good idea?
Because many of the most important changes still have to take place in
openSUSE 10.3.
Regards,
A.
That would mean the devs are aware of them and haven't been able to fix them
for ages?
Ignored is the right word, at least for many of them.
Do you mean community people should be able to fix them in an
afternoon? If not all we can do is provide info and perhaps alter status of
some
Hi Ted,
On Friday 01 June 2007 08:34, Ted Bullock wrote:
Now is probably the latest time to run this bug day thing if it is going
to have any sizable effect on 10.3. Alpha period is almost over (only
two alpha releases left to make changes in).
Suggessted Wiki Node for Bug Triage Day
John wrote:
Am trying to burn video DVDs from a standard VIDEO_TS directory on my
hard drive (it is coming from a FAT32 partition), and every time I put
in a blank to burn (+R or -R) I get the error:
:-( unable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Input/output error
and it spits the DVD out. If I then close
I went to LinuxTag in Berlin yesterday (Saturday), and was quite
impressed with the event. It was much more (larger) than I expected.
If anyone has been giving it a miss, you may want to consider going
next year :-)
- Had a chance to talk to several SUSE guys. Was nice to be able to
put a face
On 2007-06-02 19:55, JB2 wrote:
chop
As you waste just as much telling him so, and deciding in your elitism who
is rabble. What was that about hypocrisy?
Actually, I haven't -- I send out one of these for every 10 or 20 of
yours. Rabble in here is anyone whose signal-to-noise ratio is
About a month ago, I left a message regarding not being able to start a usb
wireless device on boot, and I was hoping to find a command to start it (suse
9.3). As often happens, I go no response. I don't know if no one knew the
answer, or if those that did thought it was a stupid quiestion,
Ooops, sorry, meant to post to the OffTopic list, not the main
opensuse list. Crossposted where it was supposed to end up :-P
C.
I went to LinuxTag in Berlin yesterday (Saturday), and was quite
impressed with the event. It was much more (larger) than I expected.
If anyone has been giving it
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The Sunday 2007-06-03 at 01:42 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:
About a month ago, I left a message regarding not being able to start a usb
wireless device on boot, and I was hoping to find a command to start it (suse
9.3). As often happens, I go
John R. Sowden wrote:
About a month ago, I left a message regarding not being able to start a usb
wireless device on boot, and I was hoping to find a command to start it (suse
9.3). As often happens, I go no response.
It is a bit complicated at boot. There is quite a few things that usb
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Vince L wrote:
On Saturday 02 June 2007 04:22, azeem ahmad wrote:
hi list
i am about to make a bootable floppy for test
but i am being unable to get it done
please review the code below and tell me if there is any problem with it
Very funny!!!
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The Saturday 2007-06-02 at 17:22 +0300, Cristea Bogdan wrote:
Is there a way to visualise all running processes?
In my case, I launch an application with nohup command in a terminal window,
but if the terminal is closed and then reopened again
On Sunday 03 June 2007 05:34:58 Jonathan Ervine wrote:
On Saturday 02 June 2007 15:22:01 Cristea Bogdan wrote:
Is there a way to visualise all running processes?
In my case, I launch an application with nohup command in a terminal
window, but if the terminal is closed and then reopened
On Sun June 3 2007 02:47, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
John R. Sowden wrote:
About a month ago, I left a message regarding not being able to start a
usb wireless device on boot, and I was hoping to find a command to start
it (suse 9.3). As often happens, I go no response.
It is a bit
Is anyone using gmerlin-camelot? It was working fine until I did the last
upgrade and now I cannot adjust the controls. As I have a tv card, the webcam
is on /dev/video1. The program default is /dev/video0 but I cannot change it.
Just wondered if anyone is using it and it is working fine for
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Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote:
Hi !
We have Squid installed as transparent proxy, and it blocks certain web
sites.
However, I we have seen some users use public proxies like ninjaproxy in
order to visit these sites.
Is there any way
G T Smith wrote:
Any high level computer language comes with overheads on the compiled
code
if you need to have complete control over a very fast and compact
code, think about 'Forth' langage
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Hi,
Yes I used YaST. My wireless card exists there too. I changed the module
name to ndiswrapper. Thats all I did. My wireless card is Broadcom.
D.
Andrew Burgess wrote:
On 6/2/07, Danesh Daroui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I am desperately trying to make my wireless card working
M Harris wrote:
On Friday 01 June 2007 22:22, azeem ahmad wrote:
i am about to make a bootable floppy for test
but i am being unable to get it done
Whoa bubba... I am surprised you can make lunch... but seriously, who
taught
you how to write assembler code?Ok, here is a
On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:33:41 -0700 (PDT)
Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Next, I need to load Office and Visual Studio
While VMWare is an excellent solution, you could also use Crossover
Office. The latest Visual Studio is untested, but the older version
works.
Additionally, what version of
On 2 June 2007 13:21, Joseph Loo wrote:
Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 1 June 2007 23:12, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 1 June 2007 20:48, Sunny wrote:
What program you print from?
I'm printing from KDE. The 370Kb image was printed from Konqueror.
What kind of printer you have?
It's an HP
On Saturday 02 June 2007 23:43, Danesh Daroui wrote:
Hi all,
I am installing opensuse on my new system. It uses Matrox graphic card
which supports three monitors to be connected. I also have a logitech
wireless keyboard and mouse. Is there anyone who had experienced these
with opensuse, and
Thanks Rickard. It was a great tip. First I will try live CD. What about
wireless keyboard and mouse (not bluetooth)? Have you used them with
linux too?
D.
Rikard Johnels wrote:
On Saturday 02 June 2007 23:43, Danesh Daroui wrote:
Hi all,
I am installing opensuse on my new system. It
On Sunday 03 June 2007 14:25, Danesh Daroui wrote:
Thanks Rickard. It was a great tip. First I will try live CD. What about
wireless keyboard and mouse (not bluetooth)? Have you used them with
linux too?
D.
Rikard Johnels wrote:
On Saturday 02 June 2007 23:43, Danesh Daroui wrote:
Hi
Thanks again. And my last questions. Can I use Live CD by downloading
opensuse's install DVD from its web site or it is another thing? Also, I
have a DVD burner which I use to burn ISO and IMG files using
DVDDecrypter and sometimes VOB files using Nero. Is there any similar
program in Linux
Danesh Daroui wrote:
Yes I used YaST. My wireless card exists there too. I changed the
module name to ndiswrapper. Thats all I did. My wireless card is
Broadcom.
You will need to add blacklist bcm43xx to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist so
it doesn't try to load that module to use ndiswrapper.
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James Knott wrote:
Anyone here remember doing assembly code in DEBUG? Many years ago,
someone wanted a DOS utility that would just return an error code and do
nothing else. I wrote one in assembler, using DEBUG, and it was only 5
bytes long. The same thing in Turbo C, came in at a few K
John R. Sowden wrote:
I tried your suggestion-got a response of 'running', but the LED on the
netgear usb/wireless never lit. You (Joe) are corerect-will not start on
boot but will when I unplug/plug after booting is complete.
Try adding the module for this card to /etc/sysconfig/kernel
Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 2 June 2007 13:21, Joseph Loo wrote:
Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 1 June 2007 23:12, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
On 1 June 2007 20:48, Sunny wrote:
What program you print from?
I'm printing from KDE. The 370Kb image was printed from Konqueror.
What kind of printer you have?
On Sun, June 3, 2007 4:50 am, Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:33:41 -0700 (PDT)
Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Next, I need to load Office and Visual Studio
While VMWare is an excellent solution, you could also use Crossover
Office. The latest Visual Studio is untested, but
On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 07:43 -0400, James Knott wrote:
M Harris wrote:
On Friday 01 June 2007 22:22, azeem ahmad wrote:
i am about to make a bootable floppy for test
but i am being unable to get it done
Whoa bubba... I am surprised you can make lunch... but seriously, who
Mike McMullin wrote:
On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 07:43 -0400, James Knott wrote:
M Harris wrote:
On Friday 01 June 2007 22:22, azeem ahmad wrote:
i am about to make a bootable floppy for test
but i am being unable to get it done
Whoa bubba... I am
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:03:34 +0100
G T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some assembler code is truly ugly (using 100s of NOPS for timing is one
example I can think off), where timing or speed is essential one will
nearly always get a better result with well written assembler (it often
is not
On Sunday 03 June 2007 04:01, jdd wrote:
G T Smith wrote:
Any high level computer language comes with overheads on the
compiled code
if you need to have complete control over a very fast and compact
code, think about 'Forth' langage
Now I _am_ gagging.
If speed is an issue, a purely
On Sunday 03 June 2007 07:59, Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:03:34 +0100
G T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some assembler code is truly ugly (using 100s of NOPS for timing is
one example I can think off), where timing or speed is essential
one will nearly always get a better
On Sunday 03 June 2007 15:24, Mike McMullin wrote:
Someone mentioned that this looked like an effort on the part of person
looking to learn assembly, to me that makes sense, and should signal the
vultures to provide some actual guidance on getting the code runnable,
and then perhaps crank over
Randall R Schulz wrote:
If speed is an issue, a purely interpreted language
Forth is not an interpreted langage. only uses a small number of
assembly langage function and recursive calls. But any new function
is added to the underlying system and available instantly, and all
this is done
On Sunday 03 June 2007 12:43, James Knott wrote:
Anyone here remember doing assembly code in DEBUG? Many years ago,
someone wanted a DOS utility that would just return an error code and do
nothing else. I wrote one in assembler, using DEBUG, and it was only 5
bytes long. The same thing in
Vince L wrote:
On Sunday 03 June 2007 12:43, James Knott wrote:
Anyone here remember doing assembly code in DEBUG? Many years ago,
someone wanted a DOS utility that would just return an error code and do
nothing else. I wrote one in assembler, using DEBUG, and it was only 5
bytes long.
Hi all,
I want to test opensuse on my new system by using opensuse LiveCD. How
can I get opensuse LiveCD? Is it the normal opensuse DVD/CD iso file on
opensuse.org?
Regards,
D.
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On Sunday 03 June 2007 17:23, James Knott wrote:
I was just learning about C programming at the time, so neither trick
would have been known to me. I also learned about the fun of variable
sizes. In class, we were using Borland's Turbo C++ for DOS. At home, I
was using Borland C++ for
On Sunday 03 June 2007 15:09, Danesh Daroui wrote:
Thanks again. And my last questions. Can I use Live CD by downloading
opensuse's install DVD from its web site or it is another thing? Also, I
have a DVD burner which I use to burn ISO and IMG files using
DVDDecrypter and sometimes VOB files
On 3 June 2007 14:41, Joseph Loo wrote:
When I had my postscript printer, I would send 2 MB files and it would take
25 to 30 minute to run. Theis was with 1.5 Mbytes. I moved to 76 Mbytes, it
took about 3 minutes. I had a slow processor to.
I'll stick by the PCL config; by the moment...
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Vince L wrote:
On Sunday 03 June 2007 17:23, James Knott wrote:
Those were the days. Innumerable fights with pointers...
and innumerable small tests programs to know what happen on the
edge... and Turbo series was a good compiler and had good doc :-)
thanksfully I did that only for
On 2007-06-03 10:35, Danesh Daroui wrote:
Hi all,
I want to test opensuse on my new system by using opensuse LiveCD. How
can I get opensuse LiveCD? Is it the normal opensuse DVD/CD iso file
on opensuse.org?
It's on a DVD:
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The Sunday 2007-06-03 at 13:20 +0100, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
It looks like your printer does not have enough memory to handle the
postscript file. The pcl version requires your computer to process the file
and generate an image of the page,
any SuSE 10 or 10.2 driver for these tablets?
looked but can't find.
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Danesh Daroui wrote:
Hi all,
I want to test opensuse on my new system by using opensuse LiveCD. How
can I get opensuse LiveCD? Is it the normal opensuse DVD/CD iso file
on opensuse.org?
Download the LiveDVD here. http://download.opensuse.org/
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On Sunday 03 June 2007 18:06, jdd wrote:
too many oldtimer, here :-)))
Punched cards, anyone?
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On Sunday 03 June 2007 00:37, Richard Bos wrote:
The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be
installed at the same time.
Another point were SUSE does not dare to be different from RH?
RH already puts everything in /usr and strictly speaking, I
hate that. No
Vince L wrote:
On Sunday 03 June 2007 18:06, jdd wrote:
too many oldtimer, here :-)))
Punched cards, anyone?
I used to maintain punch card equipment and I used pencil mark cards in
a Fortran class, back in high school!
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On Sunday 03 June 2007 13:43, Vince L wrote:
too many oldtimer, here :-)))
Punched cards, anyone?
My first official computer related job (ca. 1970, I was 15) was
computer
operator on an IBM 360 mod44 (fully transistorized high speed number
crunching mainframe--- with 256K of main
On Sunday 03 June 2007 06:43, James Knott wrote:
Anyone here remember doing assembly code in DEBUG?
Back in the mid '80s we used debug.com at the Tampa lab to
efficiently send
printer control codes to the new line of Proprinters by IBM. The same thing
could be done with some trouble
On Sunday 03 June 2007 13:43, Vince L wrote:
On Sunday 03 June 2007 18:06, jdd wrote:
too many oldtimer, here :-)))
Punched cards, anyone?
You mean in Fortran IV times ? ;-)
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Hmm,,,
Let we make point system.
Starting with 10 points for never posting offtopic, top posting, using foul
language, and 0 points means no posting for a week or being plonked by all
that accept this system. Points should be deleted after 1 week.
Me:
-1 point for posting off topic to
M Harris wrote:
For
those of you who never used it, debug was a combination of debugging tool
(register display) and machine language monitor. It was the latter that most
folks were unaware of usually... early .com
and breaking an application was a problem of minutes :-)
to have an
On Sunday 03 June 2007 11:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2007-06-03 at 13:20 +0100, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
It looks like your printer does not have enough memory to handle
the postscript file. The pcl version requires your computer to
process the file and generate an image of the
On Sunday 03 June 2007 15:41:34 John D Lamb wrote:
On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 14:14 -0400, Gracia M. Littauer wrote:
any SuSE 10 or 10.2 driver for these tablets?
Use YaST Hardware Graphics Card and Monitor. It uses SaX, which
contains facilities for dealing with Wacom tablets.
Otherwise look
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 19:43:15 +0100
Vince L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Punched cards, anyone?
Programming in IBM 360 assembler :-(
Programming in COBOL:
PROCEDURE DIVISION.
BEGIN.
ENTER SYMBOLIC.
Burroughs assembler language
ENTER COBOL.
EXIT.
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 15:36:06 -0500
Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mean in Fortran IV times ? ;-)
I learned FORTRAN II just before FORTAN IV was released on an IBM 7044.
Worked with a 4K DEC PDP 8. Had to enter binary for the RIM loader to
load in paper tape. The original Burger King
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 08:05:00 -0700
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If speed is an issue, a purely interpreted language (unlike contemporary
JVMs which perform native code translation) will never give good speed.
Actually, I've seen well written Forth code do very well. We had a 3270
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 08:08:07 -0700
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the real point for any modern microprocessor is that it's very
difficult for human programmers to properly optimize the instruction
streams when writing in assembly.
You are absolutely, positively correct,
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 13:40:47 +0200
Danesh Daroui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Yes I used YaST. My wireless card exists there too. I changed the module
name to ndiswrapper. Thats all I did. My wireless card is Broadcom.
There is a Broadcom driver in 10.2 bcm43xx.ko. It needs firmware. You
On Sunday 03 June 2007 14:53, Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 08:05:00 -0700
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If speed is an issue, a purely interpreted language (unlike
contemporary JVMs which perform native code translation) will never
give good speed.
Actually, I've
jdd wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
If speed is an issue, a purely interpreted language
Forth is not an interpreted langage. only uses a small number of
assembly langage function and recursive calls.
No, the Forth text is interpreted once into bytecodes, then the
bytecodes are interpreted
M Harris wrote:
On Sunday 03 June 2007 13:43, Vince L wrote:
too many oldtimer, here :-)))
Punched cards, anyone?
My first official computer related job (ca. 1970, I was 15) was
computer
operator on an IBM 360 mod44 (fully transistorized high speed number
crunching mainframe---
On 6/3/07, Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a Broadcom driver in 10.2 bcm43xx.ko. It needs firmware. You
don't need NDISWRAPPER. You can use bcm43xx-fwcutter to cut the
firmware out of the Windows Broadcom .sys file. Works much better than
NDISWRAPPER.
If I were to grab the
Peter Van Lone wrote:
On 6/3/07, Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a Broadcom driver in 10.2 bcm43xx.ko. It needs firmware. You
don't need NDISWRAPPER. You can use bcm43xx-fwcutter to cut the
firmware out of the Windows Broadcom .sys file. Works much better than
NDISWRAPPER.
Hi,
I´m using openSUSE 10.2 with the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.3
FC
Frank Seidel wrote:
On Friday 01 June 2007 02:45:55 Fernando Costa wrote:
06:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB-712/4 Cardbus Controller
(rev 10)
06:04.1 FLASH memory: ENE Technology Inc ENE PCI Memory Stick Card
I ran LiveCD on my system and it works fine, but the result was
disappointing because I had a dual head video card and there was no
support for it since the video card was set to Framebuffer and it
could not be changed. Also the resolution was poor. Can it be fixed when
I instsall opensuse?
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The Sunday 2007-06-03 at 14:02 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Let me see; an 8*10 inches page at 1200 dots per inch, that's 115.2e6
pixels... calculate the memory needed.
1200 dots per inch? I thought we were talking about a home or office
Hi,
Talking about K3B, there´s some way to burn audio CDs from MP3 Files,
i´ve tried to do it but the application doesn´t let me, may be a codec
issue?
Fer
Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
I use K3B.
Seems like K3B is a popular choice. Been to there site and I am happy
that I asked for help.
On Sunday 03 June 2007 17:01, Danesh Daroui wrote:
I ran LiveCD on my system and it works fine, but the result was
disappointing because I had a dual head video card and there was no
support for it since the video card was set to Framebuffer and it
could not be changed. Also the resolution was
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The Sunday 2007-06-03 at 04:04 -0500, SOTL wrote:
Trying to use K3B to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7 GB disk and I get the error
message that iso above 4.0 GB is not allowes.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
This is a OpenSuSE 10.2 system.
On Sunday 03 June 2007, Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 13:40:47 +0200
Danesh Daroui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Yes I used YaST. My wireless card exists there too. I changed the module
name to ndiswrapper. Thats all I did. My wireless card is Broadcom.
There is a Broadcom
Funny thing, when i hover my mouse over the video display applet by the
clock, it reports 1280x1024. When i installed SLED10, i selected
1400x1050 SXGA+. So, i open the applet which opens SaX2 and SaX2 reports
1400x1050. Which one is it? My video card is on-board and is intel i845
and the monitor
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On 2007-06-03 03:04, SOTL wrote:
Trying to use K3B to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7 GB disk and I get the error
message that iso above 4.0 GB is not allowes.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
This is a OpenSuSE 10.2 system.
IN K3b Tools -- Burn DVD iso image.
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On Sunday 03 June 2007 01:27, M Harris wrote:
I have a minor concern with the way the numeric keypad is handled, and I am
wondering whether this has already been addressed, or if I need to open a
bug report. I did some searching but did not find what I was looking for.
In version 1.2.9 the
On 2007-06-03 20:52, Chris Arnold wrote:
Funny thing, when i hover my mouse over the video display applet by the
clock, it reports 1280x1024. When i installed SLED10, i selected
1400x1050 SXGA+. So, i open the applet which opens SaX2 and SaX2 reports
1400x1050. Which one is it? My video card
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 05:52:55 +0300
Munkii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i just made this email exclusively for receiving mailinglists, i got
overwhelmed by the amount of emails on my default mail. this's just a
test message, feedback, if you can bother!
got your msg here, but isn't there a test
On Sunday 03 June 2007 01:27, M Harris wrote:
The tightvnc folks say to install the 1.3.9 version... which I *have*
downloaded, but which I have not installed as yet. They tell me that the
old version numlock state was the state of the Server PC instead of the
Client PC. When the
On Sunday 03 June 2007, Munkii wrote:
i just made this email exclusively for receiving mailinglists, i got
overwhelmed by the amount of emails on my default mail. this's just a
test message, feedback, if you can bother!
That seems a long way to go just to separate the mail.
What mailer are
Hello,
on Donnerstag, 31. Mai 2007, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
On Thursday 24 May 2007 18:07, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
http://en.test.opensuse.org/
Headlines:
http://en.test.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Tag_Formatting#.3Ch1.3E..
..3Ch6.3E
h6 looks smaller than normal text - I'm not sure if
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