Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Rickard Öberg
Eric Webb wrote: Since moving to web application frameworks (jakarta turbine and ww2) I've exclusively used velocity. I find velocity's syntax to be simple, clean, and sufficently powerful for constructing views. I mean, when you get down to it, a view is simply html (in most cases), and

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread remigijus
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP Eric Webb wrote: Since moving to web application frameworks (jakarta turbine and ww2) I've exclusively used velocity. I find velocity's syntax to be simple, clean

RE: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Erik Jõgi
Rickard Öberg wrote ... 2) Great performance 3) Templates does not have to be in files (JSP files do) ... where does the performance win over JSPs come from? As JSPs are compiled into servlets, how do you beat that? if you don't put your templates into separate files, then where do you put

RE: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Konstantin Priblouda
--- Erik_Jõgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rickard Öberg wrote ... 2) Great performance 3) Templates does not have to be in files (JSP files do) ... where does the performance win over JSPs come from? As JSPs are compiled into servlets, how do you beat that? Did you looked into

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Rickard Öberg
remigijus wrote: Ok it sounds nice, I'm not against velocity, I'm just curious. How many hits you are getting per day and peak load? What hardware and software do you use? We do load tests sometimes, but it's hard to compare that with reality. In reality, we do have one web hotel server which

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Rickard Öberg
Erik Jõgi wrote: Rickard Öberg wrote ... 2) Great performance 3) Templates does not have to be in files (JSP files do) ... where does the performance win over JSPs come from? As JSPs are compiled into servlets, how do you beat that? Don't know, don't care. It's just faster :-) That's probably not

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread remigijus
- Original Message - From: Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP remigijus wrote: Ok it sounds nice, I'm not against velocity, I'm just curious. How many hits you are getting per day

RE: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Drew McAuliffe
rendering. The if and foreach constructs seem much more intuitive than their tag-based counterparts in JSP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hani Suleiman Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork

[OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-21 Thread Erik Jõgi
Hello, Following the 'Tomcat out of memory' thread in this list I got the impression that several people were suggesting to Velocity instead of JSPs for for the views. I haven't got any experience with Velocity besides looking at the stuff that is part of WebWork but for some reason I have

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity or JSP?

2002-12-10 Thread Rickard Öberg
Robert Nicholson wrote: Is this the same SiteVision that's on SourceForge? Nope. It's a closed-source product from my new company, Senselogic. /Rickard -- Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senselogic Got blog? I do. http://dreambean.com

RE: [OS-webwork] Velocity or JSP?

2002-12-10 Thread Aslak Hellesøy
Heh, this thread sure did mutate today. Am I on TSS? :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Cannon-Brookes Sent: 10. desember 2002 02:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity or JSP? Aslak, Having just

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity or JSP?

2002-12-10 Thread Patrick Lightbody
- Original Message - From: Aapo Laakkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:07 AM Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Velocity or JSP? I'm about to start a new project, and we have decided to use WebWork. I'd like to hear what kind of view technology the WebWork

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity or JSP?

2002-12-09 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes
Aslak, Having just written a book chapter on WebWork views, I'm quite au fait with this situation! :) The JSP views _are_ more advanced at the moment, but that's only because none of the core developers has any Velocity projects or much Velocity experience. There is no reason (from looking at