Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 2014-04-08 00:31, Fernando Frediani wrote: Reading all this discussion around WRT1900ac makes me wonder of something: - When Belkin acquired Linksys and announced WRT1900ac they made a big noise (marketing) about OpenWRT compatibility so they are using the project's name for their financial benefit, make people believe in that to buy the hardware (nothing that stops them to do that really). - Anyone here would then expect they engage with developers and submit patches for the work they are doing. They kind of showed up but very briefly and submmited a non-acceptable patch so far. - Therefore they are subscribed to this email list seeing all this discussion around their product and either: - They watch it silently, laugh and ignore it (which is not good). - They are not even aware or following this discussion (which is not good too). Therefore I get confused of what the next steps will be around it and the output of this discussion will end. The code quality issues in the patches are fixable. The biggest problem with this is the fact that right now, the wifi chip (from Marvell) needs a proprietary driver to run. The submitted patches only include a prebuilt .ko for this driver. The response I got from Belkin indicates that they didn't realize that this was going to be a problem and they are now trying to fix it. I've seen this happen to other open source related projects using Marvell hardware as well, so the big question is whether Belkin can put enough pressure on them to get the source code released. Even if that happens, the source code will most likely need a rewrite or an insane amount of cleanup, as is typical for proprietary wifi drivers in the embedded space. There are many signs that if released, the source code to this driver is going to be horrible: weird function names, big module size, use of custom vendor-specific hostapd and wpa_supplicant drivers. This is most likely going to take a long time to resolve. A lot of this mess could have been avoided, if Belkin had talked to the developer community before finalizing the hardware specs. However, this is a lesson that a lot of companies trying to get into the open source market will have to learn the hard way. I'm assuming that the intentions behind creating this device were good, but given the uncertain nature of the wifi driver issue, I would not recommend buying any WRT1900AC devices until we have an open source wifi driver for it. - Felix ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Felix Fietkau n...@openwrt.org writes: I've seen this happen to other open source related projects using Marvell hardware as well, so the big question is whether Belkin can put enough pressure on them to get the source code released. Even if that happens, the source code will most likely need a rewrite or an insane amount of cleanup, as is typical for proprietary wifi drivers in the embedded space. There are many signs that if released, the source code to this driver is going to be horrible: weird function names, big module size, use of custom vendor-specific hostapd and wpa_supplicant drivers. This is most likely going to take a long time to resolve. I know these comments are based on experience, but I still feel you are a bit too pessimistic here :-) After all, we do have the mwl8k driver in mainline and Marvell has commited a lot to that, including the 8764 bits. It's not too unlikely that they will add 8864 support as well, is it? And wrt the size: Some of this is probably due to firmware being built into the module. And some is debugging symbols. The rest is of course bloat mostly caused by unnecessary reimplementation. Bjørn ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 2014-04-08 17:02, Bjørn Mork wrote: Felix Fietkau n...@openwrt.org writes: I've seen this happen to other open source related projects using Marvell hardware as well, so the big question is whether Belkin can put enough pressure on them to get the source code released. Even if that happens, the source code will most likely need a rewrite or an insane amount of cleanup, as is typical for proprietary wifi drivers in the embedded space. There are many signs that if released, the source code to this driver is going to be horrible: weird function names, big module size, use of custom vendor-specific hostapd and wpa_supplicant drivers. This is most likely going to take a long time to resolve. I know these comments are based on experience, but I still feel you are a bit too pessimistic here :-) I really do hope to be proven wrong on this one. After all, we do have the mwl8k driver in mainline and Marvell has commited a lot to that, including the 8764 bits. It's not too unlikely that they will add 8864 support as well, is it? I don't know how likely or unlikely it is. I also don't know how likely it is that they will care about the driver enough to keep AP mode support for embedded devices tested and working well, as opposed to just adding it as an afterthought. And wrt the size: Some of this is probably due to firmware being built into the module. And some is debugging symbols. The rest is of course bloat mostly caused by unnecessary reimplementation. Right. ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
2014-04-08 17:02 GMT+02:00, Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no: Felix Fietkau n...@openwrt.org writes: I've seen this happen to other open source related projects using Marvell hardware as well, so the big question is whether Belkin can put enough pressure on them to get the source code released. Even if that happens, the source code will most likely need a rewrite or an insane amount of cleanup, as is typical for proprietary wifi drivers in the embedded space. There are many signs that if released, the source code to this driver is going to be horrible: weird function names, big module size, use of custom vendor-specific hostapd and wpa_supplicant drivers. This is most likely going to take a long time to resolve. I know these comments are based on experience, but I still feel you are a bit too pessimistic here :-) Felix is not pessimistic; he knows better than most the high amount of job and problems that generate a wifi driver with such few information and, in addition it seems to use a different API. Take in mind that the Broadcom wireless proprietary driver generate some problems from time to time. After all, we do have the mwl8k driver in mainline and Marvell has commited a lot to that, including the 8764 bits. It's not too unlikely that they will add 8864 support as well, is it? And wrt the size: Some of this is probably due to firmware being built into the module. And some is debugging symbols. The rest is of course bloat mostly caused by unnecessary reimplementation. Bjørn In my opinion you are too confident about the similarities between mwifiex[1], mwl8k[2] and the Avastar 88W8864 drivers. How much wireless ICs aren't supported in linux and how much of them have required a lot of job doing reverse engineering or clean room development? Being optimistic Marvell will release a binary file with some additional code to interface with the OpenWRT wireless subsystem. We will not see a free functional driver in months or ages. Regards: Pepe [1]: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/mwifiex [2]: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/mwl8k ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 04/08/2014 06:04 PM, Felix Fietkau wrote: On 2014-04-08 17:02, Bjørn Mork wrote: Felix Fietkau n...@openwrt.org writes: I've seen this happen to other open source related projects using Marvell hardware as well, so the big question is whether Belkin can put enough pressure on them to get the source code released. Even if that happens, the source code will most likely need a rewrite or an insane amount of cleanup, as is typical for proprietary wifi drivers in the embedded space. There are many signs that if released, the source code to this driver is going to be horrible: weird function names, big module size, use of custom vendor-specific hostapd and wpa_supplicant drivers. This is most likely going to take a long time to resolve. I know these comments are based on experience, but I still feel you are a bit too pessimistic here :-) I really do hope to be proven wrong on this one. After all, we do have the mwl8k driver in mainline and Marvell has commited a lot to that, including the 8764 bits. It's not too unlikely that they will add 8864 support as well, is it? I don't know how likely or unlikely it is. I also don't know how likely it is that they will care about the driver enough to keep AP mode support for embedded devices tested and working well, as opposed to just adding it as an afterthought. And wrt the size: Some of this is probably due to firmware being built into the module. And some is debugging symbols. The rest is of course bloat mostly caused by unnecessary reimplementation. Right. A driver for the Avastar 88W8764, which seams to be an older version of the driver used by Belkin for their 88W8864 was released under the terms of the GPL on github: https://github.com/kmihelich/wlan-smileplug I checked ~5 function names from this source code and found them in the binary provided by Belkin. This situation looks better than the situation around Broadcom wireless drivers. I hope Belkin gets Marvell to allow them to release at least the source code or better to get them to add support for the 88W8864 into one of their mainline wireless drivers. Hauke ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
NDA = $$$ = Quiet I just don't understand what is the problem, if it's really true, to tell the most interested people (developers) that you are working on something directly related to the project, even without giving any further details due the NDA. On 06/04/2014 11:17, Hartmut Knaack wrote: Gerry Rozema schrieb: On 28/03/14 01:58 PM, Peter Lawler wrote: Hi Pete! We are working with one of the OpenWRT founders and his team. We'll be sharing more details later... Stay tuned! :) https://dev.openwrt.org/wiki/people Two listed there as founders, and I'm one of the two. Isn't me, so it must be Mike Mike, are you still alive and on the list? ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
- Original Message - On Monday, April 7, 2014 at 8:49:25 AM Fernando Frediani fhfredi...@gmail.com wrote: NDA = $$$ = Quiet I just don't understand what is the problem, if it's really true, to tell the most interested people (developers) that you are working on something directly related to the project, even without giving any further details due the NDA. Perhaps the first rule of this particular NDA is that you cant confirm or deny the existence of the project and the associated NDA? That would seem rather shortsighted and counterproductive in this case (given that they claim to want to ensure OpenWRT support, yet none of the core developers is claiming to have even seen one), but it wouldn't be the first case of a contract that was shortsighted and counterproductive. Aaron Z ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
There was a patch posted from linksys last week: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/23500 -Toke ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
There is something that still don't understand: why is there so much interest in the WRT1900ac? A Wandboard quad + i.e. TL-WDR7500 is a more exciting, more powerful and more versatile combo. It is a bit funny to take a look at the code which include a binary patch. Direct Link: ftp://Temp90523934364:tag43...@ftp.belkin.com/Temp90523934364 In addition there are very interesting comments in the mailing list: https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2014-April/024589.html In this moment i'm much more interested in test Jonas' jffs2 patch for the BCM63XX target. Regards: Pepe 2014-04-07 14:49 GMT+02:00, Fernando Frediani fhfredi...@gmail.com: NDA = $$$ = Quiet I just don't understand what is the problem, if it's really true, to tell the most interested people (developers) that you are working on something directly related to the project, even without giving any further details due the NDA. On 06/04/2014 11:17, Hartmut Knaack wrote: Gerry Rozema schrieb: On 28/03/14 01:58 PM, Peter Lawler wrote: Hi Pete! We are working with one of the OpenWRT founders and his team. We'll be sharing more details later... Stay tuned! :) https://dev.openwrt.org/wiki/people Two listed there as founders, and I'm one of the two. Isn't me, so it must be Mike Mike, are you still alive and on the list? ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
That is very interesting. Does anyone know if the source code of the .ko module was finally provided by Belkin/Linksys ? Jose-Vasquez - Regarding your other email why there is so much interest on the WRT1900ac,, I think first because it was announced as a successor of the famous WRT54G, which needless to say the importance of this in the start of the project. Also despite the fact other hardwares like TL-WDR7500 are very interesting indeed, this one has its merits on the upcoming ac era and if Belkin/Linksys is truly interested to work with OpenWRT developers means, in theory, an always welcome contribution back to the project. Best regards, Fernando On 07/04/2014 14:32, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: There was a patch posted from linksys last week: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/23500 -Toke ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Why is everyone so gung-ho on this device? YES its interesting. YES we all want to see support. People are working on it (or so we think). We just saw a patch being submitted. We will understand how open source Belkin wants to be by the steps the take in response to the feedback on their first submitted patch. Everyone needs to tone down on the kool-aid and get back to life as usual. We'll know when there are people in the know want to tell us something. Bye, Chirag On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Fernando Frediani fhfredi...@gmail.comwrote: That is very interesting. Does anyone know if the source code of the .ko module was finally provided by Belkin/Linksys ? Jose-Vasquez - Regarding your other email why there is so much interest on the WRT1900ac,, I think first because it was announced as a successor of the famous WRT54G, which needless to say the importance of this in the start of the project. Also despite the fact other hardwares like TL-WDR7500 are very interesting indeed, this one has its merits on the upcoming ac era and if Belkin/Linksys is truly interested to work with OpenWRT developers means, in theory, an always welcome contribution back to the project. Best regards, Fernando On 07/04/2014 14:32, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: There was a patch posted from linksys last week: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/23500 -Toke ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Toke Høiland-Jørgensen schrieb: There was a patch posted from linksys last week: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/23500 I would expect, that all on this thread were aware of that. Anyway, (I didn't check all of them, but) those patches also miss a Signed-off-by, the only thing getting close to an author is that: From: Anonymous anonym...@veriksystems.com Let's see, how it will progress. -Toke ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Fernando, you are right: the WRT54G was the beginning of a lot of great things, and now a lot of people contribute to OpenWRT, DD-WRT, and some other projects that i can't remember in this moment thanks to it. A disagree a bit with ...Belkin/Linksys is truly interested to work with OpenWRT developers means, in theory, an always welcome contribution back to the project. but according to this changelog (https://dev.openwrt.org/log/trunk/target/linux/mvebu?rev=40420) seems that the initial and hard job in OpenWRT were made by Florian, Luka (actual maintainer), Juhosg and others, in addition to the patches that other developers sent to the kernel. I can be wrong but Belkin/Linksys seems that are using existing code and adapting it, which is the right way, for its board; a wonderful board, of course, a black beast. The patch 0030-mamba-mvebu-support-wifi-non-security.patch points that the wifi driver uses a proprietary API instead cfg80211, like Broadcom did with its proprietary wireless driver. :( To summarize: despite de precompiled wireless driver, welcome Linksys WRT1900ac! Best regards: José P.S.: i'm a bit sensitive with my surname. 2014-04-07 18:38 GMT+02:00, Fernando Frediani fhfredi...@gmail.com: That is very interesting. Does anyone know if the source code of the .ko module was finally provided by Belkin/Linksys ? Jose-Vasquez - Regarding your other email why there is so much interest on the WRT1900ac,, I think first because it was announced as a successor of the famous WRT54G, which needless to say the importance of this in the start of the project. Also despite the fact other hardwares like TL-WDR7500 are very interesting indeed, this one has its merits on the upcoming ac era and if Belkin/Linksys is truly interested to work with OpenWRT developers means, in theory, an always welcome contribution back to the project. Best regards, Fernando On 07/04/2014 14:32, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: There was a patch posted from linksys last week: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/23500 -Toke ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 08/04/14 00:50, José Vázquez wrote: There is something that still don't understand: why is there so much interest in the WRT1900ac? A Wandboard quad + i.e. TL-WDR7500 is a more exciting, more powerful and more versatile combo. As we've seen from elsewhere in this thread, they've already submitted some patches[1] in a non-standard format and had them knocked back. The 'quality' of the submission does kinda make me wonder whether the folks designing the box never in their wildest dreams expected to get approval from Linksys's new owners to go the FLOSS path. I actually kinda have the feeling that the Linksys engis have had an OpenWRT capable box in their office for some time and it's the new owners that have allowed them to productise. But I digress... Now that I'm actually convinced that they are working on having OpenWRT, I've started to re-read their product announcements [2]. Whilst originally I (and maybe others) expected it to have been ready with OWRT out of the box it's pretty clear to me now that they never intended it to be OWRT ready on launch day but at some time after launch. This is probably why Bastian never got a response to his request for a bunch of dev boxes[3]. Which kinda dovetails in to... Given the quality of the patch submitted in [1], I'm expecting it'll be OpenWRT ready and production stable say June at the earliest. As for the TL-WDR7500, the one obvious thing the 1900ac has that it doesn't is eSATA. Also, at the time of initial 1900ac announcement, there was no working 5GHz on the WDR7500 [4] so interest for me to a very large degree is in the performance in that spectrum. Anyway, enough from me for first in the morning emails before my coffee. Good luck to both 'teams' working on 5GHz stuff for OpenWRT. Having a choice in hardware can only benefit everyone. Pete. 1 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/23500 2 http://store.linksys.com/Linksys-WRT1900AC-Open-Source-Wireless-Router_stcVVproductId158014980VVcatId551966VVviewprod.htm [Apparently they're still supporting WinXP as a host PC platform, popcorn!] 3 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/23513 4 https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2014-March/024459.html ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Reading all this discussion around WRT1900ac makes me wonder of something: - When Belkin acquired Linksys and announced WRT1900ac they made a big noise (marketing) about OpenWRT compatibility so they are using the project's name for their financial benefit, make people believe in that to buy the hardware (nothing that stops them to do that really). - Anyone here would then expect they engage with developers and submit patches for the work they are doing. They kind of showed up but very briefly and submmited a non-acceptable patch so far. - Therefore they are subscribed to this email list seeing all this discussion around their product and either: - They watch it silently, laugh and ignore it (which is not good). - They are not even aware or following this discussion (which is not good too). Therefore I get confused of what the next steps will be around it and the output of this discussion will end. Regards, Fernando On 07/04/2014 23:03, Peter Lawler wrote: On 08/04/14 00:50, José Vázquez wrote: There is something that still don't understand: why is there so much interest in the WRT1900ac? A Wandboard quad + i.e. TL-WDR7500 is a more exciting, more powerful and more versatile combo. As we've seen from elsewhere in this thread, they've already submitted some patches[1] in a non-standard format and had them knocked back. The 'quality' of the submission does kinda make me wonder whether the folks designing the box never in their wildest dreams expected to get approval from Linksys's new owners to go the FLOSS path. I actually kinda have the feeling that the Linksys engis have had an OpenWRT capable box in their office for some time and it's the new owners that have allowed them to productise. But I digress... Now that I'm actually convinced that they are working on having OpenWRT, I've started to re-read their product announcements [2]. Whilst originally I (and maybe others) expected it to have been ready with OWRT out of the box it's pretty clear to me now that they never intended it to be OWRT ready on launch day but at some time after launch. This is probably why Bastian never got a response to his request for a bunch of dev boxes[3]. Which kinda dovetails in to... Given the quality of the patch submitted in [1], I'm expecting it'll be OpenWRT ready and production stable say June at the earliest. As for the TL-WDR7500, the one obvious thing the 1900ac has that it doesn't is eSATA. Also, at the time of initial 1900ac announcement, there was no working 5GHz on the WDR7500 [4] so interest for me to a very large degree is in the performance in that spectrum. Anyway, enough from me for first in the morning emails before my coffee. Good luck to both 'teams' working on 5GHz stuff for OpenWRT. Having a choice in hardware can only benefit everyone. Pete. 1 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/23500 2 http://store.linksys.com/Linksys-WRT1900AC-Open-Source-Wireless-Router_stcVVproductId158014980VVcatId551966VVviewprod.htm [Apparently they're still supporting WinXP as a host PC platform, popcorn!] 3 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/23513 4 https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2014-March/024459.html ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Gerry Rozema schrieb: On 28/03/14 01:58 PM, Peter Lawler wrote: Hi Pete! We are working with one of the OpenWRT founders and his team. We'll be sharing more details later... Stay tuned! :) https://dev.openwrt.org/wiki/people Two listed there as founders, and I'm one of the two. Isn't me, so it must be Mike Mike, are you still alive and on the list? ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 28/03/2014 22:08, Catalin Patulea wrote: Maybe that's why core OpenWRT devs haven't been merging patches for over a month. what a pile if bullshit you are talking ... ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Sorry, my comment was out of line. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 2:49 AM, John Crispin j...@phrozen.org wrote: On 28/03/2014 22:08, Catalin Patulea wrote: Maybe that's why core OpenWRT devs haven't been merging patches for over a month. what a pile if bullshit you are talking ... ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 28/03/14 08:21, Peter Lawler wrote: On 12/01/14 21:17, John Crispin wrote: lets see if they actually contact us or if it was a marketing hoax Following up to my question on IRC, just in case requisite eyes weren't there when I asked: Don't like answering my own emails, but anyways... I pinged Linksys on Twitter, got this response: https://twitter.com/Linksys/status/449637059108814848 Hi Pete! We are working with one of the OpenWRT founders and his team. We'll be sharing more details later... Stay tuned! :) Guess this could mean they're doing it without Dev hardware at hand, which is a bit odd now given Linksys are less than a month from expected release. I expressed some frustration that I can't pre-order with confidence w/o open peer review and/or at least a name from the project to attach to a 'yeah linksys aren't telling marketing stories' type statement and they (the twitter account operator) did seem to understand though then again that could be marketing. Though it does seem more and more likely it's not just marketing speak we've seen, I still won't be pre-ordering in bulk (which probably will mean my customers will have to wait as it goes out of stock etc. heh call me a cynic then again maybe they'll do that rare thing in the tech world and initiial product run will actually meet initial product demand... OK I'm ranting now) Cheers, Pete. ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Peter Lawler openwrt-de...@bleeter.id.au wrote: Hi Pete! We are working with one of the OpenWRT founders and his team. We'll be sharing more details later... Stay tuned! :) Maybe that's why core OpenWRT devs haven't been merging patches for over a month. ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 29/03/14 08:08, Catalin Patulea wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Peter Lawler openwrt-de...@bleeter.id.au wrote: Hi Pete! We are working with one of the OpenWRT founders and his team. We'll be sharing more details later... Stay tuned! :) Maybe that's why core OpenWRT devs haven't been merging patches for over a month. Well I do hope it's this reason and not that they've been hit by the proverbial bus :-) ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 28/03/14 01:58 PM, Peter Lawler wrote: Hi Pete! We are working with one of the OpenWRT founders and his team. We'll be sharing more details later... Stay tuned! :) https://dev.openwrt.org/wiki/people Two listed there as founders, and I'm one of the two. Isn't me, so it must be Mike ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Then the obvious question is: Mike, if it's really you according to Linksys and Gerry statements, why don't you say a word about it in the list ? Did you sign a non-disclosure agreement ? On 28/03/2014 21:57, Gerry Rozema wrote: On 28/03/14 01:58 PM, Peter Lawler wrote: Hi Pete! We are working with one of the OpenWRT founders and his team. We'll be sharing more details later... Stay tuned! :) https://dev.openwrt.org/wiki/people Two listed there as founders, and I'm one of the two. Isn't me, so it must be Mike ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 29/03/14 10:52, Fernando Frediani wrote: Then the obvious question is: Mike, if it's really you according to Linksys and Gerry statements, why don't you say a word about it in the list ? Did you sign a non-disclosure agreement ? Most NDAs I've *cough* seen say you're not allowed to mention the existence of the NDA ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 12/01/14 21:17, John Crispin wrote: lets see if they actually contact us or if it was a marketing hoax Following up to my question on IRC, just in case requisite eyes weren't there when I asked: me any news on the belkin devbox seeding yet? jow_laptop vdotplaw: belkin devbox seeding ? me jow_laptop: their WRT1900AC announcements, said they'd seed kit to the community before release jow_laptop vdotplaw: no hardware was received by openwrt (Note that what I said about seeding was from memory, I didn't bother looking for a cite but I'm 99.9% sure it was out there in their original announcement somewhere) Brings me back to wondering how, in two weeks time, they're expecting to release hardware that'll have stable, supported OpenWRT out of the box. Personally, I'm loathed to pre-order if even no devkit has been tested. It could be months before proper OpenWRT is stable, let alone peer review on the AC stuff happens (Do we even know if we're talking a proper open source driver or binary blobs...) Any further info out there appreciated. Cheers, Pete. http://wrt1900ac.com/2014/03/25/wrt1900ac-available-for-preorder/ http://store.linksys.com/Linksys-WRT1900AC-App-Enabled-AC1900-Dual-Band-Wireless-Router_stcVVproductId158014980VVcatId553965VVviewprod.htm http://wrt1900ac.org/ ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
JC == John Crispin j...@phrozen.org writes: JC * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell IIRC, semiaccurate reported that it uses an atom processor. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 21/01/2014 21:35, James Cloos wrote: JC == John Crispin j...@phrozen.org writes: JC * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell IIRC, semiaccurate reported that it uses an atom processor. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 i beg to differ, please get your facts right :) ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Hi John, On Jan 21, 2014, at 21:41 , John Crispin j...@phrozen.org wrote: On 21/01/2014 21:35, James Cloos wrote: JC == John Crispin j...@phrozen.org writes: JC * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell IIRC, semiaccurate reported that it uses an atom processor. That truly was reported on semiaccurate.com as an atom part: http://semiaccurate.com/2014/01/06/linksys-wrt1900ac-spritual-successor-wrt54g/ (but later updated with a correction) -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 i beg to differ, please get your facts right :) Well, his facts were that semi accurate reported it as an atom, and they did. :) ahoy SM ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Aaron Z aar...@pls-net.org wrote: Perhaps marketing is watching this thread? It now reads: Open Source is a vehicle for other communities, such as DD-WRT, Open WRT, and Tomato, to create their own custom versions of open source firmware for the product. OpenWRT developers will be provided hardware and SDKs/APIs to begin creating custom firmware for the WRT1900AC. Optimistic read of this suggests that they will release some kind of patches to adopt in various projects? An OpenWRT custom firmware for WRT1900AC is planned to be available for download online at availability in the spring 2014. So OpenWRT will be the custom firmware? Will they then ship something of their own? Based on what? OpenWRT? Best regards, Maciej ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
SM == Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: SM That truly was reported on semiaccurate.com as an atom part: SM http://semiaccurate.com/2014/01/06/linksys-wrt1900ac-spritual-successor-wrt54g/ Thanks for finding that! SM (but later updated with a correction) -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
2014/1/21 James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com: SM == Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de writes: SM That truly was reported on semiaccurate.com as an atom part: SM http://semiaccurate.com/2014/01/06/linksys-wrt1900ac-spritual-successor-wrt54g/ Thanks for finding that! SM (but later updated with a correction) Knowing Linksys/Belkin, rev 1 could be one vendor, rev 2 could be another one, and then they will realize that they can save some money by reducing the flash size and use VxWorks instead of Linux (wait, this happened before). -- Florian ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Hi, we talked about this internally and are not aware of any developer that was pinged by linksys. what we know so far * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell * unit is about 1,5x the size of the original * the unit is really expensive - you can get a time capsule for that price with a 2TB disc or even a low end qnap lets see if they actually contact us or if it was a marketing hoax John Not sure how I missed this thread. However, if they do end up working with a few devs here on the OpenWrt team (fingers crossed), it would do wonders for Belkin/Linksys brand as well as for the Marvell SoCs which have had zero exposure to the open source community because of lack of drivers. I never understood why Linksys (under Cisco) didn't capitalize on the OpenSource Market after the huge success of the WRT54GL series. Linksys (under Belkin) is appealing to its target end-users perfectly. As an aside, this could potentially mean extended support for pre-existing Linksys EA routers which are based off the Marvell SoC (maybe?). Hope this isn't too good to be true. Unless there are some NDAs involved, it would be great to hear some updates on this subject. Best Regards, Chirag ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Maybe they took some of my suggestions when I sent GPL notices to them http://sourceforge.net/projects/officiallinksysfirmware/files/ although they still haven't complied with a number of the requests for certain devices. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Chirag Chhatriwala cchha...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, we talked about this internally and are not aware of any developer that was pinged by linksys. what we know so far * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell * unit is about 1,5x the size of the original * the unit is really expensive - you can get a time capsule for that price with a 2TB disc or even a low end qnap lets see if they actually contact us or if it was a marketing hoax John Not sure how I missed this thread. However, if they do end up working with a few devs here on the OpenWrt team (fingers crossed), it would do wonders for Belkin/Linksys brand as well as for the Marvell SoCs which have had zero exposure to the open source community because of lack of drivers. I never understood why Linksys (under Cisco) didn't capitalize on the OpenSource Market after the huge success of the WRT54GL series. Linksys (under Belkin) is appealing to its target end-users perfectly. As an aside, this could potentially mean extended support for pre-existing Linksys EA routers which are based off the Marvell SoC (maybe?). Hope this isn't too good to be true. Unless there are some NDAs involved, it would be great to hear some updates on this subject. Best Regards, Chirag ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Just noticed the web page about it http://www.linksys.com/en-us/wrt-wireless-router Says: open source ready Sounds to me like it'll be OpenWRT 'friendly', insofar as ease of flashing and not hating on people who try it out, rather than shipping with OpenWRT. Which (a) makes sense from a first iteration hardware PoV (b) would tally with what some of the devs have said on this list about not having heard a thing from them about it. Pete. On 16/01/14 07:16, James Hilliard wrote: Maybe they took some of my suggestions when I sent GPL notices to them http://sourceforge.net/projects/officiallinksysfirmware/files/ although they still haven't complied with a number of the requests for certain devices. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Chirag Chhatriwala cchha...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, we talked about this internally and are not aware of any developer that was pinged by linksys. what we know so far * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell * unit is about 1,5x the size of the original * the unit is really expensive - you can get a time capsule for that price with a 2TB disc or even a low end qnap lets see if they actually contact us or if it was a marketing hoax John Not sure how I missed this thread. However, if they do end up working with a few devs here on the OpenWrt team (fingers crossed), it would do wonders for Belkin/Linksys brand as well as for the Marvell SoCs which have had zero exposure to the open source community because of lack of drivers. I never understood why Linksys (under Cisco) didn't capitalize on the OpenSource Market after the huge success of the WRT54GL series. Linksys (under Belkin) is appealing to its target end-users perfectly. As an aside, this could potentially mean extended support for pre-existing Linksys EA routers which are based off the Marvell SoC (maybe?). Hope this isn't too good to be true. Unless there are some NDAs involved, it would be great to hear some updates on this subject. Best Regards, Chirag ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
Oh, bad me for replying to myself... but from the press release page: http://www.linksys.com/en-us/press/releases/2014-01-06_Linksys_wrt_revolutionizes_wireless_networking Linksys has also been working with the OpenWRT community to make an open source firmware downloadable when product is available. That sentence barely parses. Making a firmware downloadable, but no source huh? Working with the community but this thread suggests otherwise? But hey, marketing. P. On 16/01/14 10:04, Peter Lawler wrote: Just noticed the web page about it http://www.linksys.com/en-us/wrt-wireless-router Says: open source ready Sounds to me like it'll be OpenWRT 'friendly', insofar as ease of flashing and not hating on people who try it out, rather than shipping with OpenWRT. Which (a) makes sense from a first iteration hardware PoV (b) would tally with what some of the devs have said on this list about not having heard a thing from them about it. Pete. On 16/01/14 07:16, James Hilliard wrote: Maybe they took some of my suggestions when I sent GPL notices to them http://sourceforge.net/projects/officiallinksysfirmware/files/ although they still haven't complied with a number of the requests for certain devices. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Chirag Chhatriwala cchha...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, we talked about this internally and are not aware of any developer that was pinged by linksys. what we know so far * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell * unit is about 1,5x the size of the original * the unit is really expensive - you can get a time capsule for that price with a 2TB disc or even a low end qnap lets see if they actually contact us or if it was a marketing hoax John Not sure how I missed this thread. However, if they do end up working with a few devs here on the OpenWrt team (fingers crossed), it would do wonders for Belkin/Linksys brand as well as for the Marvell SoCs which have had zero exposure to the open source community because of lack of drivers. I never understood why Linksys (under Cisco) didn't capitalize on the OpenSource Market after the huge success of the WRT54GL series. Linksys (under Belkin) is appealing to its target end-users perfectly. As an aside, this could potentially mean extended support for pre-existing Linksys EA routers which are based off the Marvell SoC (maybe?). Hope this isn't too good to be true. Unless there are some NDAs involved, it would be great to hear some updates on this subject. Best Regards, Chirag ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 16/01/14 10:06, Peter Lawler wrote: Oh, bad me for replying to myself... but from the press release page: http://www.linksys.com/en-us/press/releases/2014-01-06_Linksys_wrt_revolutionizes_wireless_networking Even worse, replying to my own reply Further down that page is commentary about OpenWRT, DDWRT etc. It also mentions they're planning to release devboards to developers. It also gives a name, email address and phone number for a contact about the product. I'm not in the same TZ as the contact, by ~15 hours. Maybe someone on this list who is a little closer could call up and ask what's what ;) Pete. ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
I'm a old fan of Linksys and really believe this new device has a lot of potential in the coming era of AC devices. The fact that Linksys now belongs to Belkin I'm not sure yet if it's a good think or not, too soon to say. We'll see and hope that is a step ahead in everybody's benefit, vendor and users. However if they are only trying to take advantage of the OpenWRT name but not really contributing and engaging with the community they should not get the expected result from anyone here. I suspect there are people from Belkin/Linksys in this mail list and already working on it, but I also believe they should be engaging with us and being more clear with they intentions and plans when they mention OpenWRT in their marketing material. Nobody expects they to show any industrial secrets, but at least to work close to OpenWRT developers and release all the relevant open source material. Regards, Fernando On 15/01/2014 23:06, Peter Lawler wrote: Oh, bad me for replying to myself... but from the press release page: http://www.linksys.com/en-us/press/releases/2014-01-06_Linksys_wrt_revolutionizes_wireless_networking Linksys has also been working with the OpenWRT community to make an open source firmware downloadable when product is available. That sentence barely parses. Making a firmware downloadable, but no source huh? Working with the community but this thread suggests otherwise? But hey, marketing. P. On 16/01/14 10:04, Peter Lawler wrote: Just noticed the web page about it http://www.linksys.com/en-us/wrt-wireless-router Says: open source ready Sounds to me like it'll be OpenWRT 'friendly', insofar as ease of flashing and not hating on people who try it out, rather than shipping with OpenWRT. Which (a) makes sense from a first iteration hardware PoV (b) would tally with what some of the devs have said on this list about not having heard a thing from them about it. Pete. On 16/01/14 07:16, James Hilliard wrote: Maybe they took some of my suggestions when I sent GPL notices to them http://sourceforge.net/projects/officiallinksysfirmware/files/ although they still haven't complied with a number of the requests for certain devices. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Chirag Chhatriwala cchha...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, we talked about this internally and are not aware of any developer that was pinged by linksys. what we know so far * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell * unit is about 1,5x the size of the original * the unit is really expensive - you can get a time capsule for that price with a 2TB disc or even a low end qnap lets see if they actually contact us or if it was a marketing hoax John Not sure how I missed this thread. However, if they do end up working with a few devs here on the OpenWrt team (fingers crossed), it would do wonders for Belkin/Linksys brand as well as for the Marvell SoCs which have had zero exposure to the open source community because of lack of drivers. I never understood why Linksys (under Cisco) didn't capitalize on the OpenSource Market after the huge success of the WRT54GL series. Linksys (under Belkin) is appealing to its target end-users perfectly. As an aside, this could potentially mean extended support for pre-existing Linksys EA routers which are based off the Marvell SoC (maybe?). Hope this isn't too good to be true. Unless there are some NDAs involved, it would be great to hear some updates on this subject. Best Regards, Chirag ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On January 15, 2014 6:06:59 PM Peter Lawler openwrt-de...@bleeter.id.au wrote: Oh, bad me for replying to myself... but from the press release page: http://www.linksys.com/en-us/press/releases/2014-01-06_Linksys_wrt_revolutionizes_wireless_networking Linksys has also been working with the OpenWRT community to make an open source firmware downloadable when product is available. That sentence barely parses. Making a firmware downloadable, but no source huh? Working with the community but this thread suggests otherwise? But hey, marketing. Perhaps marketing is watching this thread? It now reads: Open Source is a vehicle for other communities, such as DD-WRT, Open WRT, and Tomato, to create their own custom versions of open source firmware for the product. OpenWRT developers will be provided hardware and SDKs/APIs to begin creating custom firmware for the WRT1900AC. An OpenWRT custom firmware for WRT1900AC is planned to be available for download online at availability in the spring 2014. Aaron Z ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On January 15, 2014 7:54:38 PM Fernando Frediani fhfredi...@gmail.com wrote: However if they are only trying to take advantage of the OpenWRT name but not really contributing and engaging with the community they should not get the expected result from anyone here. I suspect there are people from Belkin/Linksys in this mail list and already working on it, but I also believe they should be engaging with us and being more clear with they intentions and plans when they mention OpenWRT in their marketing material. Nobody expects they to show any industrial secrets, but at least to work close to OpenWRT developers and release all the relevant open source material. I agree. Had some spare time tonight, so I sent the contact person in the press release a comment to that effect pointing her to https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2014-January/023272.html We shall see what (if anything) comes of it. Aaron Z ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
[OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
I see no mention of this router on dev mailing list, so is this article true: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/linksys-resurrects-classic-blue-router-with-open-source-and-300-price/ and also in tekzilla video Linksys/Belkin claims that this router will have OpenWrt support first day it comes out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV6IkvXUZUU Is anybody of OpenWrt devs working with Linksys to support this router? Are any of you on NDAs to can't mention this? :) ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On 12/01/14 11:09, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: I see no mention of this router on dev mailing list, so is this article true: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/linksys-resurrects-classic-blue-router-with-open-source-and-300-price/ and also in tekzilla video Linksys/Belkin claims that this router will have OpenWrt support first day it comes out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV6IkvXUZUU Is anybody of OpenWrt devs working with Linksys to support this router? Are any of you on NDAs to can't mention this? :) Hi, we talked about this internally and are not aware of any developer that was pinged by linksys. what we know so far * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell * unit is about 1,5x the size of the original * the unit is really expensive - you can get a time capsule for that price with a 2TB disc or even a low end qnap lets see if they actually contact us or if it was a marketing hoax John ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] is anybody working on supporting Linksys WRT1900ac ?
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM, John Crispin j...@phrozen.org wrote: On 12/01/14 11:09, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: I see no mention of this router on dev mailing list, so is this article true: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/ 01/linksys-resurrects-classic-blue-router-with-open-source-and-300-price/ and also in tekzilla video Linksys/Belkin claims that this router will have OpenWrt support first day it comes out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV6IkvXUZUU Is anybody of OpenWrt devs working with Linksys to support this router? Are any of you on NDAs to can't mention this? :) Hi, we talked about this internally and are not aware of any developer that was pinged by linksys. what we know so far * unit most likely runs on a ghz arm soc made by marvell * unit is about 1,5x the size of the original * the unit is really expensive - you can get a time capsule for that price with a 2TB disc or even a low end qnap lets see if they actually contact us or if it was a marketing hoax John Thought so, so I sent a few tweets to linksys, tekizilla, patrick norton, cnet and CES, asking then why they didn't check the sources before releasing this info regarding openwrt support (ah, journalism) on a side note, I really like sata port they put on this device, are there any other devices with openwrt support that have sata ports? My prediction is that after they figure out there is no way this thing will sell at that price point they will ship a light version with almost same specs at ~150$ price range Also on a tangent - on openwrt forums guys mentioned this as a alternative AC router which is much cheaper (but also not yet released) - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2037429657/almond-80211ac-touchscreen-wifi-router-smart-home http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2037429657/almond-80211ac-touchscreen-wifi-router-smart-home/posts/611489 ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
