RE: Do not connect Oracle DB to the Internet. Oracle Alert #59

2003-10-27 Thread Hatzistavrou John
Title: Message Sorry, It is not readable. Kind Regards, Hatzistavrou Yannis -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 6:40 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Do not connect Oracle DB to the Internet.

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 2003.10.27 00:34, Mogens Nørgaard wrote: I have this radical idea that Oracle should include RAC in SE at no extra price (I think that would spread the product fast :) ), That would, quite likely, be the end of RAC. RAC is a great tool for those who need it, but it's far too complex for

Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hello Tom From my limited understanding in OOW in Paris, the Grid is a BIG RAC, with options to add or remove servers as you go along. It can be used for web servers, applications servers, database servers etc. There is a lot more in 10g that can help you manage also separated databases. Yechiel

ORA-7445

2003-10-27 Thread Zabair Ahmed
Hello Am getting an ORA-7445 and have raised a iTAR with Oracle but so far they have not hot to the bottom of the problem, so I thought I'll try this list! When I run a package in sqlplus I get the follwing error:- ERROR at line 1:ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel The following

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-27 Thread Binley Lim
What you have described is expected behaviour - if"the next insert would drop amount of free space less than PCTFREE", the block is unlinked. What Ihad notconsidered is what happenswhen the block is still below PCTUSED? As usual, Steve Adams' website explains this very nicely - it is not

ORA-4031 errors no a high Load Database

2003-10-27 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA
Intermittent ORA-4031 errors Out of shared Pool :- Oracle ver 9203 Solaris 9 Concurrent Users = 6000 Shared Servers / MTS being used Listeners = 4 Application using Bind Variables Application = Banking - Hybrid in Nature Database size = 1 TB m/c = SF15K How can this issue

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-27 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Hi, The walking in the freelist is just 5 blocks (or the value of _walk_insert_threshold number of blocks) and I belive tanel is talking about (_release_insert_threshold) unlinking from freelist, which also default to 5 blocks. KG - Original Message - From: Binley Lim

performance issue on select count(*)

2003-10-27 Thread Linda Wang
Hi, I have an online application that does a 'select count(*)' on a few tables. The 'select counts' always runs slow (about 10secs) for the first time and then fast again ( 1sec) after subsequent accesses. The query runs slow again when the data is flushed out of the buffer cache. 10046 trace

Re: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Tim Gorman
Ross, Yup. I don't recall ever excluding SYSTEM, though I generally work hard to minimize I/O in that tablespace (i.e. make sure not being used as temporary, no schemas except SYS, move AUD$ table to another TS if necessary, cache sequences, etc). Most folks put that statement into a loop, to

Conflicting Java VM after Oracle 9.2 client install

2003-10-27 Thread Daiminger, Helmut
Hi! Does anybody have any exprience with conflicting client JVMs? We are installing software though Microsoft SMS software packaging on the Clients (PC running XP). The deal is that another application (PVCS Dimensions) works fine if it is distributed on the systems without the Oracle 9.2

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Mladen, Mogens - If Oracle were to slash prices, there are several factors to consider. First, what does that do to Oracle's bottom line? Would sales increase dramatically enough to keep overall revenue from falling? I think the stagnant economy over the last few years has been tough on everyone

Re: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
Yes, you are right, of course. I messed up. On 10/27/2003 01:34:25 AM, Cary Millsap wrote: You mean make your PCTINCREASE 0 so that SMON will *not* coalesce them. Right? Some comments: - You don't want SMON coalescing your tablespaces. It is a complete waste of time. Oracle coalesces on demand

RE: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Khedr, Waleed
I always saw this note (and hated it): http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_datab ase_id=NOTp_id=31116.1 Hope it helps, Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, For those like me

RE: performance issue on select count(*)

2003-10-27 Thread Stephane Faroult
Linda, I guess that the key word is 'partition'. This type of query should not require to access the table if (hopefully) tid is indexed. If the index on tid is also partitioned, all index partitions have to be searched. My feeling is that in such a case what should run faster is some

RE: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Connor McDonald
Ah yes, the squashed squirrel demo... Connor --- Cary Millsap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean make your PCTINCREASE 0 so that SMON will *not* coalesce them. Right? Some comments: - You don't want SMON coalescing your tablespaces. It is a complete waste of time. Oracle coalesces on

Re: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
I wasn't feeling quite well when I was replying which made me confuse things. You, of course are right. SMON was locking fet$ table during those coalesce session, which was exceptionally dangerous in the OPS configurations. Coalescing doesn't buy much,the coalesce operation just combines

RE: Seven Deadly Sins in Oracle?

2003-10-27 Thread Paula_Stankus
me too. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I am also interested in this paer . -ak - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:14 PM List,

Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
I believe that Red Hat would be much better acquisition target then PeopleSoft. First of all, Peoplesoft doesn't seem to like the idea, second, Peoplesoft is very expensive. Red Hat would be much cheaper and would help oracle branch into other areas, where they could bundle database in a

RE: What happened to Howard Rogers ?

2003-10-27 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: What happened to Howard Rogers ? I once worked for an excellent company, Southwest Research Institute, in the USA. As part of my employment agreement, I had to sign a paper saying ANY patent I was granted belonged to the company. It didn't matter if it was on my own time or not

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Mark Leith
And this is a good thing? ;) -Original Message- Mladen Gogala Sent: 27 October 2003 14:24 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I believe that Red Hat would be much better acquisition target then PeopleSoft. First of all, Peoplesoft doesn't seem to like the idea, second, Peoplesoft

RE: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Cary Millsap
Bingo. I've included a few more details in a separate note sent just prior to my receiving this one. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 10/28 Phoenix, 11/19 Sydney - SQL Optimization 101: 12/8-12 Dallas - Hotsos Symposium

Oracle, Linux and direct I/O

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
Some time ago, I've published my intention to test various file systems on Linux for their ability to support direct I/O async I/O. Let me remind everybody who might not know, direct I/O bypasses the Linux buffer cache, behaving as if the file was a raw device. The primary goal is to avoid the

RE: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Cary Millsap
It's a note created in response to hundreds of customers shouting about how VMS and DOS need defragmenting; therefore, Oracle must need defragmenting, too. There *was* a cluster bug way back in release 6 that caused CREATE statements to take a really long time if you ever let a tablespace get

RE: Seven Deadly Sins in Oracle?

2003-10-27 Thread Anjan Thakuria
Me too... -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L me too. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I am also interested in this paer . -ak

RE:em won't stop

2003-10-27 Thread Paula_Stankus
All of a sudden our em on the 9ias system v2 won't stop. We even tried to reset the password and reauthenticate. Searching on metalink does not provide much info. Anyone deal with stuck em process before? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net --

RE: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Goulet, Dick
Cary, Hang on a second. Oracle will not always coalesce on create to the extent needed. It will go out either 10 or 20 extents (rusty memory here) and then give up. In this case it will either create an extent of the size requested above all of the other objects in the tablespace or

Query Tuning Help

2003-10-27 Thread David Wagoner
Title: Query Tuning Help I'm trying to tune the following query to use an index on the FILE_DTS column, rather than a FTS on the CLASS_CONFIG table (~350,000 rows). SELECT a2.class_config_id, a1.schedule_name FROM class_config a2, class_schedule a1 WHERE a2.class_config_id =

Re: Seven Deadly Sins in Oracle?

2003-10-27 Thread Alessandro Guimarães
Hi, Try this url... download-uk.oracle.com/openworld/upload/W12825.doc Alessandro Guimaraes - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:59 AM Me too... -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I remember reading something about this a couple of years ago. Another Larry pipe-dream. That he would keep developing the Rdbms-kernel so that he didn't need the any op-systems. If you think about it, the Rdbms is close to being it's own op-system. It provides a service on a machine

RE: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Dick, You said: I think the Server Technologies folks need to spend a little more time with SMON. It certainly does not appear to pull it's due. I think they avoided the issue with Locally Managed Tablespaces. All of these problems go away with standardized extent sizes. Tom Mercadante

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread hrishy
Hi All oracle taking over redhat...makes lotta of sense...actually.. Redhat ProductsOracle Products Redahat DatabaseOracle Database Redhat collabration suite oracel collab suite Redhat Devlopement env Oracle ids Redhat strongholdweb

Re: Query Tuning Help

2003-10-27 Thread ryan_oracle
because its not always faster to use an index. try using a hint for the index and see which runs better. From: David Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/27 Mon AM 10:34:26 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Query Tuning Help I'm trying to tune

RE: Query Tuning Help

2003-10-27 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Title: Query Tuning Help David, The calculation "( SYSDATE - 35)" is not causing the problem. The To_Date(a2.file_dts, 'mmddyyhh24miss') is. You said you created a function based index. I think you also need to set: Query_ReWrite_Integrity = TRUSTEDQuery_ReWrite_Enabled = TRUE for

RE: Query Tuning Help

2003-10-27 Thread David Wagoner
Title: Query Tuning Help Tom, Thanks for the init.ora parameter tips, I consulted the docs and did that first :-). It just seems that the CBO would rather use an index, even though I know that's not always the case. Best regards, David B. Wagoner Database Administrator Arsenal Digital

Re: Query Tuning Help

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
Do you have query rewrite privilege? What is the query_reqrite_inegrity set to? How about optimizer parameters (optimizer_index_caching,optimizer_index_cost_adj)? Is everything analyzed? On 10/27/2003 10:34:26 AM, David Wagoner wrote: I'm trying to tune the following query to use an index on

wait/notify syntax for unix help please

2003-10-27 Thread ryan_oracle
I need to parallelize some sql operations and Im running them from unix scripts. I want to spawn off a few in the background from a master script, then have the master script 'wait' for them to finish. Ive done this in Java and with dbms_alert, but I cant dig up the syntax to do this with korn

RE: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Goulet, Dick
Tom, Well if that was the only place SMON seems to be weak, I'd wholeheartedly agree. But it leave something to be desired when a user terminates their session ungracefully as well. Yes I know that's primarily PMON's job, but I've been told by OTS that some of it is also SMON's job

RE: Query Tuning Help

2003-10-27 Thread David Wagoner
Title: Query Tuning Help The FILE_DTS column is VARCHAR2(12) NOT NULL and has data in the following format: 07220301. Best regards, David B. Wagoner Database Administrator Arsenal Digital Solutions Phone: 919-466-6723 Cell: 919-412-8462 Pager: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: 919-466-6783

RE: Query Tuning Help

2003-10-27 Thread Stephane Faroult
David, I would probably not try to tune a query to make it use an index but tune a query to make it run faster - I have had recently a nice example, a join between a 500K row table and two 2K row tables (returning about 2K rows too) was running faster with FTS (followed by hash joins) on

Re: wait/notify syntax for unix help please

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
I know that bash has wait built in. It works like this: GODOT=`ps -fu $LOGNAME|grep sqlplus|grep -v PID|perl -e 'while () [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\s+/; print $A[1] }'` wait $GODOT On 10/27/2003 11:09:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to parallelize some sql operations and Im running them from

RE: wait/notify syntax for unix help please

2003-10-27 Thread Dunscombe, Chris
I don't know about Solaris but on HP-UX and AIX you can do: run_sql_1 run_sql_2 wait This will wait until both have finished. Re a specific PID $! will return you PID of the last child process and then you can wait on that PID. Looks something like: run_sql_1 run_sql_2 PID_WAIT=$! wait

Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Jared Still
I would imagine that the perspectice of grid computing offered at OOW would be somewhat Oracle centric. Grid computing does not require Oracle - it is, here comes an overused buzzword, a paradigm shift. There, I've said it. I think this is the first time I've ever used that term, and it may

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Goulet, Dick
Jared, Well said. It I believe is a HYPE and NOT a paradigm shift. Heck, look at from a marketing perspective. If we can't sell you a few high priced computers maybe we can sell you a lot of cheap computers with high priced, grid enabled (Namely higher priced), software. End

RE: ORA-4031 errors no a high Load Database

2003-10-27 Thread Stephen.Lee
There is/(are) known bug/(s) in 9.2.0.3 where the shared pool becomes fragmented and will refuse to un-fragment itself. Attempts to flush the shared pool fail. So far, based own our experience here, this seems to be fixed in 9.2.0.4. Things like shared pool details tend to leak out of my

RE: What happened to Howard Rogers ?

2003-10-27 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jerry - And they may or not be able to enforce that stipulation. A friend of mine invented something in his spare time. When his patent was granted, the company lawyers showed up to provide his requisite $1 and their gratitude, per the agreement he has been forced to sign as a condition of his

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Dick, Jared If you look at the big picture, 20 years ago the idea of a PC with the throughput of a mainframe was laughable. Not so laughable today. Large systems use many of the same components as PCs. Whether this means the grid is more than hype remains to be seen. But I suspect Larry would

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Stephen.Lee
And if your nose is raw from having nothing better to do with your time, (Remember: You can pick your friends; and you can pick your nose; but you cannot pick your friend's nose.) you can tune in to some of Sun's marketing on the subject. (from a Sun e-mail) Whatever your business, it

RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-27 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Bill -- I appreciate your input to this very complex question. IMHO, however, she turned me into a newt! is, technically, an interview *statement* rather than an interview *question*. That being said, it can be used at the beginning or end of the interview to set tone, but lesser candidates

Re: VPN to database?

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Arup, Thanks for the info. Can you elaborate a little on your understanding of how a client would connect their own reporting tool _directly_ to our database? Paul --- Arup Nanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, We use Advanced Security. the product is pricey and difficult to setup; but

RE: ADMIN: Warning of potential list shut downs due to brush fires

2003-10-27 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Stay safe, Bruce. Don't worry about us. Ruth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce A. Bergman Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 6:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: ADMIN: Warning of potential list shut downs

8th Deadly Sin - Unkept Promises

2003-10-27 Thread Odland, Brad
I went to Oracle technology day in Milwaukee the other day and was a bit put off by the marketing hype on 10g and the lack of 10g facts. The technology day was promoted as a grid day...10g this and grid that. What did we get? Marketing hype about collaboration suite. They used 10g to get people

Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
The way things are happening now, I have a feeling that we might soon witness the total eclipse of the SUN and that the darkness will rule. One browser to rule them all, one browser to find them One browser to bring them all and in the darkness bind them, In the land of Redmond where the shadows

RE: wait/notify syntax for unix help please

2003-10-27 Thread Stephen.Lee
Here's another idea. Expand on it and modify as needed. COUNT=1 while [ $COUNT -le 8 ]; do ## The first jobs command is to clear out any jobs completed messages. jobs /dev/null if [ -z `jobs` ]; then break; fi sleep 30 COUNT=$(( $COUNT + 1 )) done jobs

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Nelson, Allan
Well, it is marketing hype from Oracle's perspective but the Linux supercomputing stuff is a reality and grid is not too far from that conceptually. I supose one of these days, say around, Oracle 15X, they may actually get it all down. The show and tell I went too talked about bundled clustering

RE: VPN to database?

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Jared, Is that the book from sans.org? Thanks, Paul --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I will ditto the recommendation for Pete Finnigan's book. Jared On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:29, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: Paul - We have some of the similar issues here

RE: performance issue on select count(*)

2003-10-27 Thread Linda Wang
Stephane, the execution plan for the statement is an index range scan on tid. It did not access the table. index is not partitioned. I will testpartitioning the index and with the parallel fast full scan. Anyone else has any other suggestions? Thanks. linda From: Stephane Faroult [EMAIL

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Jesse, Rich
Some of us here at work have been using grid computing to compile programs... http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml Standard disclaimers apply (e.g. all machines must have same versions of copmiler, same architecture, etc. to avoid problems). Rich Rich Jesse

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Cunningham, Gerald
Other companies are in the mix, also... Check out: http://www.savantis.com/product/ -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, it is marketing hype from Oracle's perspective but the Linux supercomputing stuff is a reality

RE: VPN to database?

2003-10-27 Thread Jared Still
Yes: https://store.sans.org/store_item.php?item=80 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 09:49, Paul Baumgartel wrote: Jared, Is that the book from sans.org? Thanks, Paul --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I will ditto the recommendation for Pete Finnigan's book. Jared On

Re: ADMIN: Warning of potential list shut downs due to brush fires

2003-10-27 Thread Jared Still
Thanks for the warning Bruce. Hope all is Ok by now. Jared On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 15:44, Bruce A. Bergman wrote: Everyone -- Just a note of advance warning. The brush fires which are sweeping through San Diego county MAY cause the shutdown of all mailing lists and web services at Fat

checksum init.ora parametesr

2003-10-27 Thread ryan_oracle
anyone use these? Oracle support said db_block_checksum can create major performance issues. im trying to track down an ora-600 error and oracle support said we should possibly try using these. anyone have any experience with this? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

Re: ORA-4031 errors no a high Load Database

2003-10-27 Thread Tim Gorman
Title: Re: ORA-4031 errors no a high Load Database Vivek, You are using MTS/SS; have you configured the Large Pool to accommodate all of the UGA structures? If you do not have the Large Pool configured from its default of 0, then all of the UGA (i.e. session global areas, shared amongst the

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Goulet, Dick
From a first glance, that seems like a pile of wasted money. Knowing Savantis you'd be better off with RAC. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 1:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Other companies are in

Re: What happened to Howard Rogers ?

2003-10-27 Thread Tim Gorman
Title: Re: What happened to Howard Rogers ? That is quite standard. The meaning of full time employment does not admit the concept of working on my own time; mutually exclusive in many senses. In order to segregate your own time from that of a company, you have to be a temporary (i.e. contract)

Re: ADMIN: Warning of potential list shut downs due to brush fires

2003-10-27 Thread Walt Weaver
I was wondering about this, how the fires were affecting the electrical power distribution in SoCal. There are three power lines that come into Bozeman and supply the town and surrounding areas with all electrical power. This summer's fires destroyed two of the lines and came within a few hundred

Re: performance issue on select count(*)

2003-10-27 Thread Tim Gorman
Linda, I am guessing that since your table is partitioned on an unspecified date column, that the index on TID is either LOCAL or non-partitioned (i.e. GLOBAL). If it is LOCAL (you would have had to specify the keyword, as it is not the default), then you will be performing indexed RANGE scans

RE: VPN to database?

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Never mind, I see that it is. Thanks. --- Paul Baumgartel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jared, Is that the book from sans.org? Thanks, Paul --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I will ditto the recommendation for Pete Finnigan's book. Jared On Fri, 2003-10-24 at

Re[2]: What happened to Howard Rogers ?

2003-10-27 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Monday, October 27, 2003, 12:09:25 PM, you wrote: DW But as a DW consequence of the discussions with his management chain, he ended up DW agreeing to resign. Odd. It must be really important then, when you have a brilliant and innovative employee capable of inventing something unique, to have him

Re: Coalescing tablespace

2003-10-27 Thread Tim Gorman
Cary, Under 7.1, 7.2, and 7.3, there were some very real situations where even the most careful space management strategies came to naught. Specifically, the habit of parallel direct-path operations on tables and indexes to trim the last extent to avoid leaving wasted space above the high-water

Re: RE: wait/notify syntax for unix help please

2003-10-27 Thread ryan_oracle
if you attemp to wait after the process is complete, will it cause a problem? say the PID no longer exists when you issue wait? From: Dunscombe, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/27 Mon AM 11:39:34 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: wait/notify

Re: Re[2]: What happened to Howard Rogers ?

2003-10-27 Thread Todd Boss
Sounds like a management decision, not a corporate one. As in, a shortsighted, inflexible, incapable of seeing the forest for the trees, slave to the bureaucracy type manager. Not that you ever see managers like that... ;-) boss Monday, October 27, 2003, 12:09:25 PM, you wrote: DW But as a

Re: RE: wait/notify syntax for unix help please

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 10/27/2003 01:54:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you attemp to wait after the process is complete, will it cause a problem? say the PID no longer exists when you issue wait? Why don't you try it? There is this phenomenal Unix IDE called vi which can help you to write a shell script and

Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
Haven't you ever heard of things like modular programming, object oriented approach, divide and conquer and alike? What in the Wall's name are you doing when you need a distributed compiler? Linux kernel compiles on my box in 10 minutes, modules need another 10 and I'm good to go. On 10/27/2003

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Jesse, Rich
Kernel schmernel, KDE takes something like 18 hours to compile (and I think KDE sucks -- Enlightenment all the way!). Knock that down by two-thirds or a half with a couple of more boxes with a 'net connection. Building an A/V Gentoo box takes many days. Damn tight when you're done, but it takes

OT: Ximian Evolution configuration

2003-10-27 Thread Jared Still
Sorry for the OT, but I would really appreciate it if someone could point to a URL for this, or even better, if you have the answer. I am trying to do something seemingly simple: configure Evolution to use mplayer as the program of choice to view video files ( mpg, mpeg ) that are received in

Re: OT: Ximian Evolution configuration

2003-10-27 Thread Rodd Holman
You need to set it up under nautilus. Evolution uses the file associations/mime types from gnome. Rodd On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 14:04, Jared Still wrote: Sorry for the OT, but I would really appreciate it if someone could point to a URL for this, or even better, if you have the answer. I am

Re: RE: ADMIN: Warning of potential list shut downs due to brush

2003-10-27 Thread Nuno Pinto do Souto
And everybody else in the area too. Looks like a very nasty one. Having been on the receiving end of a similar one back in 94, I know how hard this can be. All the best for residents of the area and above all, STAY SAFE! Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stay safe, Bruce. Don't worry

RE: RE: wait/notify syntax for Unix help please

2003-10-27 Thread Thater, William
Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: On 10/27/2003 01:54:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you attemp to wait after the process is complete, will it cause a problem? say the PID no longer exists when you issue wait? Why don't you try it? There is this phenomenal Unix IDE

RE: Query Tuning Help

2003-10-27 Thread David Wagoner
Title: RE: Query Tuning Help Mladen, Thanks for your response. Comments are in-line. Do you have query rewrite privilege? Yes. What is the query_reqrite_inegrity set to? TRUSTED. How about optimizer parameters (optimizer_index_caching,optimizer_index_cost_adj)?

RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

2003-10-27 Thread Niall Litchfield
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mogens Nørgaard Sent: 27 October 2003 05:34 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down You had everybody convinced by your speach down there in South

Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-27 Thread John Blake
Title: RE: Query Tuning Help Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one machine to another. I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2, and am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i. Thanks in adavance John

RE: Query Tuning Help

2003-10-27 Thread Niall Litchfield
PMFJI How about optimizer parameters (optimizer_index_caching,optimizer_index_cost_adj)? optimizer_index_caching=0 Are these reasonable values? optimizer_index_cost_adj=100 sorry for the space everyone ms outlook 101 is a class I *badly* need like how do I reply in plain text with

Solved - RE: UTL_RAW and slowness

2003-10-27 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Read if you are interested ... Finally I got some time and luckily the largest message to use with dbms_profiler. And the results shocked me dbms_profiler showed me that instead of utl_raw, substr() was the culprit. Remember my operation is character by character. After some long thinking

Re[2]: What happened to Howard Rogers ?

2003-10-27 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Once the lawyers get hold of an issue, common sense goes out the window. At 11:19 AM 10/27/2003, you wrote: Monday, October 27, 2003, 12:09:25 PM, you wrote: DW But as a DW consequence of the discussions with his management chain, he ended up DW agreeing to resign. Odd. It must be really

Re: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-27 Thread adamdonahue
How about some more details? Are you cloning to a similar platform? Are you using a cold backup with controlfile recreation? RMAN backup or restore? RMAN duplicate? ... Adam John Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/27/2003 02:24 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-27 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Title: RE: Query Tuning Help Did it a couple of weeks ago on Sun. No problems. Bambi. -Original Message-From: John Blake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:24 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L Just checking

RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-27 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
We do it about 12 times (varying sizes of database) each night ... copy the raw files, archive logs and roll forward. No problems. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email

RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-27 Thread John Blake
Sorry, AIX 5L to AIX 5L cold backup copies create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations keeping the SID the same created init.ora from spfile startup nomount pfile=init.ora getting ora-3113 I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.

Re: Set processes at init.ora

2003-10-27 Thread Mitchell
DBAs Our database running on NT 2000 is over 200 processes today and I had to reset to a hight No. As I know, if I set highter for this parameter, the will be impact on Unix system, I wonder there is any impact on windows. thanks in advance Mitchell -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

Re: Solved - RE: UTL_RAW and slowness

2003-10-27 Thread Arup Nanda
Awesome, Raj! And thank you for sharing this with us. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 4:29 PM Read if you are interested ... Finally I got some time and luckily the largest message to use with

Re: Set processes at init.ora

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Drake
Mitchell, It would be most helpful if you supplied the Oracle Server version info. You may have simply had legitimately 190 users connected. You may have a problem with sessions being disconnected by the client that are not being terminated properly. It is a known issue that support for dead

Re: Set processes at init.ora

2003-10-27 Thread Mitchell
Thanks Pd for your answered. The Os is window 2000 and Oracle 8.1.6.0.0. I run the query v$resource_limit after I reset processes No to 250. andsaw the No. is up and stable to 110 process. I will keep monitor it and make sure all session disconnected. I wonder if processes is set to

Re: Solved - RE: UTL_RAW and slowness

2003-10-27 Thread Vladimir Begun
Raj, Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote: Read if you are interested ... Finally I got some time and luckily the largest message to use with dbms_profiler. And the results shocked me dbms_profiler showed me that instead of utl_raw, substr() was the culprit. Remember my operation is character by

Re: Set processes at init.ora

2003-10-27 Thread Paul Drake
Mitchell, Oracle 8.1.6.0.0. that is not good news. Depending upon how important the data and use of the data in this particular database is, you might want to plan on upgrading it in the immediate future, near future (or never - it might not be your problem). If you have an issue and would

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-27 Thread Jared Still
Rich, That really isn't 'grid', but I think you know that. GC essentially makes a network look like one great big box, with the cross platform functionality included. In the immortal words of Scott McNeally: The network is the computer. :) Don't know if he said if first. John Brunner was

Materialized view and index

2003-10-27 Thread chuan . zhang
Hi, All Wondering whether anyone created indexes on materialized view to further improve the performance? What's the pros and cons of this method? Thanks in advance. Chuan Important: This transmission is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain confidential or legally

Execution Plan is good but HIGH CPU

2003-10-27 Thread Muqthar Ahmed
Hi, Execution plan looks good but the query is consuming 800 seconds CPU timewhy? SELECT sampleavail, sample_cost_amount, sample_sale_amount, discount_room, discount_case, discount_half_case, allow_cut,

Re: Materialized view and index

2003-10-27 Thread Arup Nanda
Chuan, You can crteate indexes on MVs if you want to - there is nothing against it; in fact it may be specifically desirable to do so. MVs are designed to help in query optimization by selecting against a materialized collection f data as opposed to selecting from a set of tables as in case of

Re: Materialized view and index

2003-10-27 Thread zhu chao
Creating Indexes on MV is pretty ok and it is good for performance. I even create mv on mv to further improve the performance of some really frequently executed SQL.:) Regards. Zhu Chao. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Execution Plan is good but HIGH CPU

2003-10-27 Thread zhu chao
Hi, I guess you are just using RBO and did not analyze your table. Try analyze it and run it again. You nested loop maybe is inefficient, as it generate a lot of buffer_gets.Maybe you can consider using hash_join instead of nested loop. If you still plan to use nested loop, consider

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