RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
Not "TICK" as in "Deer-" or "Wood-" (which look like corn kernels with legs when they dig in and suck your blood), but as in "- vs. The Uncommon Cold", "- and Arthur", and "SPN!". http://www.thetick.ws/ :) Now back to naming new databases... Rich Rich JesseSystem/

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Raj TICK does not stand for anything so interesting or pleasant in Wisconsin. Sorry Rich, just a little upper midwestern humor. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. Eden Prairie, Minnesota. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Database naming conventions We do have a TICK ... it stands for sportsTICKer ... Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni      MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn&#

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
Title: RE: Database naming conventions Thanks everyone for your opinions.  I believe I have some good examples of why not to use ora.   This list is great! -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 3:59 PMTo

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Jesse, Rich
Now my left-brain is arguing with the right-brain. Some of our test/dev DBs are (or have been): MULTI, ARENA, ORBIT, RALLY, and EMPIRE (the word "playground" was too long...) And I've created at one point or another: DUPLO, AMIGA, PLINK, CHEWY, HOPS, EDGE, ENCLAVE, and TICK. No one's really a

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Database naming conventions We use following syntax ... * FAM -- ABC Family Production DB * OLDFAM  -- essentially FAM but as of 2AM today (refreshed daily or on demand) * FAMQA   -- FAM QA * FAMTEST -- FAM User Acceptance * FAMDEV  -- Fam development This works good for

Re: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Arup Nanda
; > Ask him if he name all his tables "TAB...", java class "Java...", > his pet "CAT..." or "DOG..." etc? > > Richard > > -Original Message- > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:44 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Richard Ji
he database "ora." I understand the reasoning behind and the desire for naming conventions. What happens when your shop decides to go with MySQL (as this list has been talking about)... will he want to rename the database to mysqlt24x7? will he even be allowed to have a database n

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Database naming conventions how about just an 'o'  od24x7 op24x7 you could then use 'u' for udb and 'm' for MySQL, and 's' for SQL Server. -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday,

Re:Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread dgoulet
Melissa, My naming convention is to have the host name and the database instance follow it. I have been using ORACLE_SID's that are numeric for years since v6 which helps therefore the 02 database on the server brahms.vicr.com is named brahms2. Makes life easier identifying where you are. H

Re: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael
there is no reason to call the database "ora." I understand the reasoning behind and the desire for naming conventions. What happens when your shop decides to go with MySQL (as this list has been talking about)... will he want to rename the database to mysqlt24x7? will he even be

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
Title: RE: Database naming conventions Thanks,   I Talking about the SID. I got my smile for the day, putting version etc. in would certainly add to the absurdity. -Original Message- From: Jay Hostetter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:59 AM To

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Melissa - You didn't mention which system you are on. My comments apply more to Unix. Oracle warns not to make the instance name too long. Formerly they recommended you keep it to 4 characters. Not sure how that would apply today. It does make your processes long. My #1 objective is to make

RE: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Tony Johnson
e-From: Godlewski, Melissa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:24 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Database naming conventions List,   I'm use to using a standard D=development T=test P=production.  So for a database newly created

Re: Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Jay Hostetter
Are we talking SID or connect string? I seem to remember that there was (or is on certain OSs) a limit to the length of the SID - so I tend to keep the SIDs short and sweet. If it is the connect string - then who is it that needs to know it is an Oracle database? The user? Why? The DBA? Er

Database naming conventions

2003-02-14 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
List,   I'm use to using a standard D=development T=test P=production.  So for a database newly created on development it would be called something like D24X7.  Then when it was created on Production it would be called P24X7.  Or along similar lines.   I'm working with an other DBA who wa

Re: Naming Conventions....

2002-11-15 Thread Stephane Faroult
> Shibu MB wrote: > > Hi all... > > What are the naming conventions u guys follow when > designing a database ???.Can anybody send me a general document on > this. I am trying to make the attribute name unique in my database > but i dunno

Naming Conventions....

2002-11-14 Thread Shibu MB
Hi  all...   What are the naming conventions u guys follow  when designing a database ???.Can  anybody send me a general document on this. I am trying to make   the attribute name unique in my database  but i dunno  what naming convention i   have to follow for this

role naming conventions

2002-09-27 Thread Ray Stell
Oracle seems to be inconsistant in the way it names roles: SQL> select role, GRANTED_ROLE from ROLE_ROLE_PRIVS; ROLE GRANTED_ROLE -- -- DBADELETE_CATALOG_ROLE DBA

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread sundeep maini
o: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Many thanks to all for your feedback and advice! As I suspected, > naming > conventions are really a matter of someone's personal preference, > and > what's really important is to keep it standard and consistent. >

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Rachel Carmichael
xt what kind of > > thing > > > a > > > thing is. For example, consider: "select a.flarg from bloing a > > where > > > a.croopoo > 7". This can be understood by syntactical context > (even > > > with > > > the nonsense names),

Re: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread John Thomas
CTED]> writes >Many thanks to all for your feedback and advice! As I suspected, naming >conventions are really a matter of someone's personal preference, and >what's really important is to keep it standard and consistent. > >One [hopefully] last question: What's th

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Jared . Still
by' in a report. Jared "kkennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/30/2002 06:08 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Table Naming Convent

Re: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Jared . Still
TED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/2002 07:48 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Table Naming Conventions Many thanks to all for your feedback and advice! As I suspected, naming con

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread kkennedy
-Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Many thanks to all for your feedback and advice! As I suspected, naming conventions are really a matter of someone's personal preference, and what's really important is to keep i

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread kkennedy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Table Naming Conventions My supervisor/client wants object types in names - except tables like I_ for indexes. Why do you say stay away from this? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:10 PM To: Multiple re

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
] Web:www.compuware.com -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:18 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: Table Naming Conventions Gary, you said: "What's the consensus (if there is such a thing) on plural vs. singular table names?" t

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
nce, Feb 9-12 Dallas -Original Message- Chambers Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Many thanks to all for your feedback and advice! As I suspected, naming conventions are really a matter of someone's personal preference, and what's

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
en > > with > > the nonsense names), without having to rename "bloing" to > > "bloing_table". > > > > Most of the embedding of type names into object names that I've seen > > has > > been implemented by users who were inexperienced at

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Cary Millsap
m/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:03 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Table Naming Conventions

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
esday, July 31, 2002 10:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Many thanks to all for your feedback and advice! As I suspected, naming conventions are really a matter of someone's personal preference, and what's really important is to keep it standard and consistent. One [hopeful

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Cary Millsap
mposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas -Original Message- Chambers Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Many thanks to all for your feedback and advice! As I suspected, naming conventions are really a matter of someone's pers

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Jesse, Rich
Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:54 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Table Naming Conventions > > > I just think it's a waste. You can tell by context wha

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Jesse, Rich
-Original Message- > From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:03 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Table Naming Conventions > > > I don't like such prefixes because they make it easier to lie or m

Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Gary Chambers
Many thanks to all for your feedback and advice! As I suspected, naming conventions are really a matter of someone's personal preference, and what's really important is to keep it standard and consistent. One [hopefully] last question: What's the consensus (if there is such a t

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Cary Millsap
where > > a.croopoo > 7". This can be understood by syntactical context (even > > with > > the nonsense names), without having to rename "bloing" to > > "bloing_table". > > > > Most of the embedding of type names into object names that I

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Connor McDonald
gt; > I just think it's a waste. You can tell by > context what kind of > > thing > > > a > > > thing is. For example, consider: "select a.flarg > from bloing a > > where > > > a.croopoo > 7". This can be understood by > syntactica

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
s that I've seen > has > been implemented by users who were inexperienced at the time they > created the standard. They were worried that without embedding the > type > name into the object name, they might forget what kind of object it > was. > ...Most such naming conventi

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Thing", or even "tHiNG" in your developers' SQL. But don't make > > > developers type stuff like this... > > > > > > select "Name" from "Thing" where "Id" = y /* won't work > > without > > > &

Re: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Mladen Gogala
nse names), without having to rename "bloing" to > > "bloing_table". > > > > Most of the embedding of type names into object names that I've seen > > has > > been implemented by users who were inexperienced at the time they > > created the s

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Cary Millsap
without having to rename "bloing" to > "bloing_table". > > Most of the embedding of type names into object names that I've seen > has > been implemented by users who were inexperienced at the time they > created the standard. They were worried that without e

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Cary Millsap
y: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/30/2002 02:29 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Table Naming Conventions My supervisor/client wants object types in names - except tables like I_ fo

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael
names into object names that I've seen > has > been implemented by users who were inexperienced at the time they > created the standard. They were worried that without embedding the > type > name into the object name, they might forget what kind of object it > was. > ...Most such namin

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)
37 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Table Naming Conventions All... Will some of you please provide some insight on your table naming conventions? I'm in the very early planning stages of

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread kkennedy
rt of the name? Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/30/2002 02:29 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Table Naming Conventions My supervisor/client wants

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Jared . Still
Subject: RE: Table Naming Conventions My supervisor/client wants object types in names - except tables like I_ for indexes. Why do you say stay away from this? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's a start. No

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Stephen Andert
st of the embedding of type names into object names that I've seen has been implemented by users who were inexperienced at the time they created the standard. They were worried that without embedding the type name into the object name, they might forget what kind of object it was. ...Most suc

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Cary Millsap
otsos Enterprises, Ltd. > http://www.hotsos.com > > Upcoming events: > - NCOAUG Training Day, Aug 16 Chicago > - Miracle Database Forum, Sep 20-22 Middlefart Denmark > - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 > Dallas > > > > -Original

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael
gt; http://www.hotsos.com > > Upcoming events: > - NCOAUG Training Day, Aug 16 Chicago > - Miracle Database Forum, Sep 20-22 Middlefart Denmark > - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 > Dallas > > > > -Original Message- > Chambers

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Table Naming Conventions My supervisor/client wants object types in names - except tables like I_ for indexes.  Why do you say stay away from this? -Original Message- From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:10 PM To: Multiple recipients

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Cary Millsap
s Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas -Original Message- Chambers Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L All... Will some of you please provide some insight on your table naming conventions? I'm in the very early plannin

Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-30 Thread Gary Chambers
All... Will some of you please provide some insight on your table naming conventions? I'm in the very early planning stages of what will likely be a large and complex schema (IT asset inventory). I have a chance to start it correctly. TIA Gary Cha

Re: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-30 Thread Daniel Wisser
hi! from my experience of haveing the same data or data model on different DB brands and platforms it is wise wiser wisest - cause you never know what the management is going to buy next - to stick to the following naming conventions for identifiers: + all identifiers in uppercase + not more

RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-29 Thread Jared . Still
07/29/2002 09:15 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server Paula: The mixed case for Oracle does not matter, as Oracle is not case

Re: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-29 Thread Suzy Vordos
I come from a Unix/Shell/Perl/Java background where exact case match is important. Which is why it's s apparent that MS's lack of case sensitivity bugs me :) I recently had a similar discussion with a developer, who was absolutely puzzled that case-sensitivity was an issue because his onl

RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-29 Thread STEVE OLLIG
Suzy - it isn't just MS_LAND that uses mixed-case. i've seen more than one non-M$ shop take advantage of that in their namingConvetions. shell scripts, perl, java, and even other non-M$ databases - Sybase on HP-UX for example. i do however agree with the rest of the posts - probably not a good

RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-29 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Please help.  I work in an organization where we have both > SQL Server on NT and Oracle on Unix.  SQL Server and > developers who are u

Re: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-29 Thread Suzy Vordos
Definately underscores, if simply just to break the habit of developers assuming that mixed-case means something outside of MS-land. While SQL-Server does allow/display/use objects in mixed-case format, forcing that into Oracle *can* be done, but it's a bad idea. The Oracle data dictionary stor

RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-29 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Title: RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server Paula:     The mixed case for Oracle does not matter, as Oracle is not case sensitive.  The column names are stored in uppercase within the data dictionary.  However, for SQL Server, the case sensitivity of column names is

RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-29 Thread Mark Leith
The only way to insert a column name in mixed case with Oracle is to enclose the create statements column names in "double-quotes".. This also means that when selecting from the created table, you have to enclose the mixed case column name in double quotes as well.. Ad-hoc type queries could go wr

RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-29 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Title: RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server Paula,   Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but if you create tables and columns with mixed case within Oracle, then your developers will need to refer them surrounded by double quotes:  like:   SQL> create table &q

RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server

2002-07-29 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: naming conventions for Oracle/Unix vs. SQL Server Guys, Please help.  I work in an organization where we have both SQL Server on NT and Oracle on Unix.  SQL Server and developers who are used to GUI's in NT like column names to have mixed case with no underscores.  The Unix