RE: Grid news

2003-11-13 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
8i -- I for the Indomitable, the Invincible. 10g -- G for the Great, the Gladiator... (Sorry never mind.) Patrice -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Oracle has announced 10 will be 10g for grid. Many of us have been

RE: Grid news

2003-11-13 Thread Nelson Flores
It's kind of like the SETI project... for those of you that don't know what this is, it's a project where NASA has images that need to be analyzed, but don't have the computing power to do it all in a reasonable time. So they created a system where they distribute the processing of the images

RE: Grid news

2003-11-13 Thread Pete Sharman
Nope, sorry. This is a fundamental misconception that many people share. :) SETI is a completely different kettle of fish to Oracle's grid story, using spare cycles on desktops to try and achieve something as part of the search for extra-terrestrial intelligence (IIRC that's what SETI stands

Re: Grid

2003-08-28 Thread Ryan
no not over the atlantic. its from DC to Boston. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:39 PM 10GB over Atlantic? This does cost a lot. At least I assume so, why the heck am I sticking to 512kb in my home

Re: Grid

2003-08-28 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! It's still quite hard to believe, that it could be anywhere near cheap. Even building 10Gbit locatl Ethernet is currently expensive. You would need 16*655Mb ATM connections for that to do over long range... Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

Re: Re: Grid

2003-08-28 Thread rgaffuri
atm is obsolete. cheap is relative. i didnt mean its $20/month or comparable to getting AOL. alot of mid-large businesses have them. From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/28 Thu AM 03:14:26 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grid Hi

RE: Grid

2003-08-28 Thread Matthew Zito
] On Behalf Of Tanel Poder Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 3:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Grid Hi! It's still quite hard to believe, that it could be anywhere near cheap. Even building 10Gbit locatl Ethernet is currently expensive. You would need 16*655Mb ATM

RE: Grid

2003-08-28 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
2.3 GB from California to Switzerland is fast, damned fast. http://www.cenic.org/CENIC2003/NGIAwards/winners/slac.htm We are part of several test beds having to do with future networking capabilities. Ian MacGregor -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:54 PM To:

RE: Grid

2003-08-27 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
We've been talking of Grid computing here since either late 1999 or early 2000. The computing for our main experiment was designed before the Grid was contemplated. Still we have implemented some of the middleware needed, and build methods of authentication and authorization, and participated

RE: Grid

2003-08-27 Thread Jesse, Rich
- From: MacGregor, Ian A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Grid We've been talking of Grid computing here since either late 1999 or early 2000. The computing for our main experiment was designed before

RE: Grid

2003-08-27 Thread Odland, Brad
Commoditizing of IT resources, hardware, software, people requires reducing the level of maintenance and knowledge required. A grid does just that. The concept of a grid is to still function with the loss of one or more members and can incorporate new resources easily. The electrical power grid

Re: Grid

2003-08-27 Thread Tanel Poder
We've been talking of Grid computing here since either late 1999 or early 2000. The computing for our main experiment was designed before the Grid was contemplated. Still we have implemented some of the middleware needed, and build methods of authentication and authorization, and participated

Re: Grid

2003-08-27 Thread Ryan
i havent seen much about internet 2. i didnt realize there was anything in production yet. do you know where i can find more info on it? 2.3 GBs isnt really that much for a connect anymore. its not that expensive to get 10GB connections or more. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients

Re: Grid

2003-08-27 Thread Tanel Poder
10GB over Atlantic? This does cost a lot. At least I assume so, why the heck am I sticking to 512kb in my home then? Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:54 AM i havent seen much about internet 2. i

RE: Grid

2003-08-26 Thread Robson, Peter
Although I haven't got into the technical details of 'The Grid' (and thanks for this article - I shall read it), but nevertheless I have a haunting sense of deja vu. Remember all the hype over distributed computing that Oracle generated? Remember the key part client-server was of that? Remember

RE: RE: Grid

2003-08-26 Thread Stephane Faroult
Remember the 'single instance' ? - --- Original Message --- - From: Robson, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 01:49:27 Although I haven't got into the technical details of 'The Grid' (and thanks for this

RE: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread Ruth Gramolini
But it sounds so cool! And cool is Ellison's raison d'etre. Ruth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Henry Poras Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Grid While I was cleaning up the

Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread Tanel Poder
In my understanding, Oracle 10 won't support the real grid. Instead it'll probably a concept of having singe huge database on a huge storage array/SAN and having a bunch of cheap (linux) servers in RAC which can then distribute their workload automatically and using service_names mechanism they

Re: Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread rgaffuri
how different is the concept of a grid from RAC? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/25 Mon PM 03:39:30 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grid In my understanding, Oracle 10 won't support the real grid. Instead it'll probably

Re: Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread Tanel Poder
: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/25 Mon PM 03:39:30 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grid In my understanding, Oracle 10 won't support the real grid. Instead it'll probably a concept of having singe huge database on a huge storage

Re: Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread rgaffuri
Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/25 Mon PM 04:24:34 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Grid Don't know more than I wrote. And I even don't *know* that :) I guess we'll find out in September. Tanel. - Original Message

Re: Re: Grid

2003-08-25 Thread Jared . Still
: Subject:Re: Re: Grid how different is the concept of a grid from RAC? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/08/25 Mon PM 03:39:30 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grid In my understanding, Oracle 10 won't support the real grid. Instead