Rachel,
Yes , I worked at JPL in Pasadena California for 8 years
and we had all these PHDs running around. Very smart people
who could never apply their knowledge and produce work.
They would let you know how smart they were though.
Since I have not taken every oracle class it was unfair
of me
If I had that oppurtunity, I would lap up Cary Millsap's Hot clinic to be
conducted in NYC around July 9-11. You should be able to get more
information from www.hotsos.com.
Raj
I would second these selections below
Stay away for the Oracle provided training, It is worthless.
fwiw !
Peace and Love
Mike
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Check on www.orapub.com or www.hotsos.com
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not totally worthless, but the value of the class is directly related
to the quality of the instructor.
I have had the good fortune to take classes with several of the best of
Oracle instructors. I have also had the misfortune to take classes with
some of the less best
--- Johnson, Michael
Peter - Do you have a particular objective in mind? For example, would you
like to eventually complete the OCP? The normal progression (using Oracle
Education classes as a basis) would be:
1. SQL PL/SQL
2. DBA
3. Advanced topics (check education.oracle.com for
I agree with Rachel.
I had to ditch one class after the 1st day.
But I got re-registered for the same class when Scott Gossett taught it. And
it was worth it. Trust me.
- Kirti
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not
The Internals classes are not to be missed!
I go to user group meetings, attend conferences and hang out on this
list to learn these days. Once in a while I take a new features class,
but that's rare. Conferences teach me more.
Cary is teaching a clinic in NYC in July... I don't think I can get
alright ... Ill buy that explanation.
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not totally worthless, but the value of the class is directly related
to the quality of the instructor.
I have had the good fortune to take classes
Dennis,
Excellent point! We discussed Oracle training without asking Peter
what he wanted to learn!
So...Peter,
What would you like to learn? If it is advanced Oracle DBA stuff,
I'll stand by my recommendation. Otherwise, I will defer to the list on
other areas.
Daniel W. Fink
heck, anything (presentations, classes, books) are all good or bad
depending on the knowledge of the person presenting the information and
their ability to teach
sometimes the ability to teach is more important than how much they
know. I've known really smart people who can't make anyone
I almost never took an Oracle course. Read docs, went to conferences,
spoke with (phone) and wrote to (snail mail) other DBAs asking
questions, and what-ifs. TRYING things on my own.
How do you think the top-notch people got to BE top-notch? I
seriously doubt it was from taking Oracle classes
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