RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-18 Thread Guy Hammond
Satar, I'm afraid that I'm going to have to take issue with this. Bad English food is, I agree, fairly grim, but the same could be said of bad food everywhere. Have you ever been to New Jersey? All they eat there are chicken parm subs! London is one of the great places in the world if you like

RE: Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-18 Thread O'Neill, Sean
in the IS organization Perks for being a DBA? You jest. If you do your job right, and nothing goes wrong, they don't understand why they need you and why they pay you what they do. If something goes wrong, they get upset because why didn't you know it was going to happen and fix it to begin with? Okay

RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-18 Thread Grabowy, Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:49:20 -0500 Subject: The DBA in the IS organization I am wondering how my fellow DBA's fit into their IS organization. My situation is this. I was hired just a little over a year ago as a DBA but my official title is network programmer

OT RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-18 Thread Michael Barger
*How* is this related to oracle? There is an OFF-TOPIC list for this list for these kinds of posts.. Please keep them there. Michael B, Who is not afraid to ask people to keep off-topic stuff off this list. At 07:46 AM 9/18/01 -0800, Grabowy, Chris wrote: I have done a couple DBA trips to

The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-17 Thread O'Neill, Sean
From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:49:20 -0500 Subject: The DBA in the IS organization I am wondering how my fellow DBA's fit into their IS organization. My situation is this. I was hired just a little over a year ago as a DBA but my official title is network

Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael
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Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-17 Thread The Oracle DBA
that the programmers made. And I like what I do. From: O'Neill, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The DBA in the IS organization Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 05:05:19 -0800 From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat

RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-17 Thread Kimberly Smith
For me it kind of depends on which project I am on at the moment. As an organization we are split into two different groups, one being information solutions and the other being infrastructure. I fall into the first while people like Unix admin, network admin fall into the second. From a

RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-17 Thread Kevin Lange
David; My personal opinion is that it never did mater who I worked for (which organization, which manager) as long as they were all good and my job what what I expected. I was a Tech Support Analyst for a long time. But, what I did was perform DBA duties on Oracle and DB2 databases as well

Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-17 Thread satar naghshineh
muslims living in your local area. --- O'Neill, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:49:20 -0500 Subject: The DBA in the IS organization I am wondering how my fellow DBA's fit into their IS organization. My situation is this. I

RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-16 Thread CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)
. Regds, Catherine -Original Message- From: Farnsworth, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:The DBA

The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
I am wondering how my fellow DBA's fit into their IS organization. My situation is this. I was hired just a little over a year ago as a DBA but my official title is network programmer. Except for some job scripting I have not done any coding. I am the only DBA for 5 Oracle databases and 4 SQL

Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Brian McGraw
Farnsworth, Dave wrote: I am wondering how my fellow DBA's fit into their IS organization. My situation is this. I was hired just a little over a year ago as a DBA but my official title is network programmer. Except for some job scripting I have not done any coding. I am the only DBA

RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Browett, Darren
In our organization, the DBA position is within network services, because the DBA is also the Unix Administrator. I find it works well, because I have access to the actual systems running the databases. If I was with the other group (applications) I would have to ask somebody in networks to log

Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Rodd Holman
Dave, In our organization we have the DBA's/UNIX SA's under IS Operations. We are primarily responsible for production support, but are also assigned to project teams for development. As for reporting we report to the Dir. of IS Ops who is at same level as Dir of App. Dev. Both of them report

Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Brian McGraw
Funny... I came in today to get out of my house. But I guess that's what 2 kids under 3 will do to you... : ) Rodd Holman wrote: Dave, In our organization we have the DBA's/UNIX SA's under IS Operations. We are primarily responsible for production support, but are also assigned to project

Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Thater, William
in our place , i'm under the data center. i'm not sure that's the right place but since we have access to the production databases, and since there's only 2 of us for both production and development, it's better than being under the development organization. -- -- Bill Shrek Thater

Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Greg Moore
Right now I am kind in limbo with no real authority Just getting a job title won't do much. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Greg Moore INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego,

RE: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Rachel Carmichael
in the IS organization Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:40:17 -0800 In our organization, the DBA position is within network services, because the DBA is also the Unix Administrator. I find it works well, because I have access to the actual systems running the databases. If I was with the other group (applications) I would

Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Stephen Andert
At my last job, my supervisor reported to the Manager of IT as did the manager of AppDev. Where I am now, there are so many levels of damanagement (ok some of them are managers not DAmanagers) that all I know is that the AppDevs, SAs and DBAs all report to a different VP. So when a group