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Man, that sucks. I am trying to get the account to buy some software to do the mindless checking stuff and I can concentrate on the big stuff as we also do development here as well. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

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Aschenbrenner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:14 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: What next ? || || || || You think an 11:1 database to dba ratio is bad? Try about a 35:1 || ratio! Just not enough hours in the day to check on them all

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Mladen Gogala for president! Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:56 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Nope. DBAs are

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I sent Mladen Gogala's mail to my boss and to a couple of managers. Everyone had a nice laughter and of course, now, they know about DBA. Thanks Mladen for your nice one. Rao -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Mladen Gogala

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I am saving this excellent email as advice to anyone who asks me about DBA work. What an absolutely top posting Cheers Don. -Original Message- Sent: 07 June 2001 06:50 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Do you want a paper to say you are marginally qualified to be a DBA or do

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Hi Don, Thanx for the inputs Don. I wanted to be a DBA , but dint know the exact path to follow. Ur inputs seems to be like a guideline for all those people who want to be a DBA. I ll stick to what u have said and create my own oppurtunites to become a DBA in my company. cheers, Ravi

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I have already circulated with my dba friends circle. Excellent article. -- On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:36:33 Robertson Lee - lerobe wrote: I am saving this excellent email as advice to anyone who asks me about DBA work. What an absolutely top posting Cheers Don. -Original Message-

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Don, Excellent article. Even today, after 6 years, I still do the looping you mentioned. Rao -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Do you want a paper to say you are marginally qualified to be a DBA or do you actually want

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At 09:50 PM 6/6/01 -0800, you wrote: Do you want a paper to say you are marginally qualified to be a DBA or do you actually want to learn database administration? To a large extent I agree with you about the relative unimportance of paper qualifications. However, one thing that a formal course

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Nope. DBAs are chosen, not trained. To become a good DBA one must go to Mt. Sinai and talk to a burning bush. If the bush talks back, then the applicant will have the power to split the seas of data into partitions. Instead of appealing to pharaoh to let his people go, the real DBA uses the

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Title: RE: What next ? Ross, you are being superceded as the chief goof. Get busy! Me, I had to kiss the current dbas' feet, shower them with compliments about their databases, ask them tough questions, show them how to write pl/sql, grow some grey hair and buy them beer. I also planted

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Ahh ... but the real DBA, when they get to the top of the mountain and see a burning bush ... talking or not talking ... treat the burning bush as just another daily fire drill and puts the fire out. After all ... isn't what we do every day anyway ?? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday,

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of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: What next ? || || || || You think an 11:1 database to dba ratio is bad? Try about a 35:1 || ratio! Just not enough hours in the day to check on them all || || Alan Aschenbrenner || IHS Group || [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || (303)-858

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recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: What next ? || || || || You think an 11:1 database to dba ratio is bad? Try about a 35:1 || ratio! Just not enough hours in the day to check on them all || || Alan Aschenbrenner || IHS Group || [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] || (303

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half fast ) Sometimes a critical 24x7 database goes down and people don't know for weeks! || -Original Message- || From: Alan Aschenbrenner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:14 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: What next

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|| Subject: RE: What next ? || || || Then Ross .. I would look them in the face and say If || you have not || known for weeks then it can't be all that damn critical now can it ! || || -Original Message- || Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:37 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

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Well, yes and no. Yes, we do put fires out, but if we are any good, we first discuss the approach to the extinguishing fire, then we discuss the equipment needed, then ask for the references for the chosen equipment and then we create a project plan for putting the fire out, not forgetting to

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Title: RE: What next ? Lisa; You know what they say ... "Be careful what you wish for you just might get it." -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:33 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubj

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You think an 11:1 database to dba ratio is bad? Try about a 35:1 ratio! Just not enough hours in the day to check on them all Alan Aschenbrenner IHS Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (303)-858-6394 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:47 PM To:

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Yupe..it really bright my future on my career to DBA...thank Don. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Don, Thanx for the inputs Don. I wanted to be a DBA , but dint know the exact path to follow. Ur inputs seems to be

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Hello friend , Gurus I just start my Oracle developer job in April 2001, I feel interesting in Oracle Dba jobs but my current job is stuck with only application development .How can I build up my DBA skill if I did't have chance on doing the related jobs ? But I manage to build up a

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Do you want a paper to say you are marginally qualified to be a DBA or do you actually want to learn database administration? If it is the latter, my opinion is: 0) Learn as much as you can about Oracle in general. Being an exceptional developer means understanding what your code does inside