RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?

2002-11-25 Thread Jack van Zanen
Create the clone using RMAN duplicate command. Than it gets new ID

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Someone has just told me you can't do an RMAN backup of a clone because it
has
the same database id as the original.   Is this true or not?  If so, how to
get
around it?

Thanks,
Doug

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RE: A way to restore a DB

2002-11-25 Thread Jack van Zanen
How about doing the inserts in a seperate database and synch using
replication or home cooked scripts into your warehouse.

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Dear gurus!
We are evaluating a strange way to recover a production DB.
This is a 3.7 TB database, still growing, with LOTS of data inserted every 5
minutes (and several partitions belonging to several tables get dropped each
day - we keep historical data for 90 days back), which we used to backup
with RMAN to HP Omniback controlled tapes.
We had a failure, and it took almost 48 hours to restore/recover the DB (in
addition to backed DB files, I had to restore thousands of archived logs
from tapes and apply them to the DB).
We can not afford to have the DB down for 2 days.
Now, we decided to give up RMAN hot backup, actually to give up backup (in
it's classic meaning) at all.
I'll explain why: It's very important for us to get the DB up  running ASAP
after a crash. We want the DB operating much more than we care about
historical data that reside in our DB. Our goal is to enable the inserts
(which run every 5 minutes, as I have stated) ASAP.
So, we plan to do the following backup/recovery procedures:
1)   We want to generate a script that will build the basics of the DB -
create the DB and the instance, build tablespaces, users, grants, roles
etc...
2)   We want to create a daily export of small (but the most important)
configuration tables, which can be imported very quickly after the crash and
rebuild of DB.
At this point the DB is operational.
3)   We can now import the large data tables - partition by partition.
And I don't care if THIS step will take 2 weeks.
What do you say?
Any reviews of my steps and the idea in general?
And, do you have a script that can re-engineer a DB (as in my step 1)?
Thanks a lot in advance.
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What makes Oracle DB shutdown automatically?

2002-11-25 Thread shuan.tay\(PCI\)



Dear all DBAs,

I wonder what're the possible reasons that make 
Oracle DBshutdown automatically?
Linux is running well.
It first running very slow andsuddenly 
shutdown.

Running Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux.

Can you guys please tell me what should i 
check? 
Would you mind to explain in detail? 'Cos I'm just a 
junior DBA.

Thanks in advance.



Command to prevent inactivity timeout in Sun Sol

2002-11-25 Thread cosltemp-g . manoj
Hi,
 is there any command to prevent Inactivity timeout expired in Sun  Solaris.

Thanks
Manoj


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RE: What makes Oracle DB shutdown automatically?

2002-11-25 Thread Jack van Zanen



Hi,


A good 
place to start is your alert log and see if there are any trace files from 
the time of crash.

Jack

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  9:29To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  What makes Oracle DB shutdown automatically?
  Dear all DBAs,
  
  I wonder what're the possible reasons that make 
  Oracle DBshutdown automatically?
  Linux is running well.
  It first running very slow andsuddenly 
  shutdown.
  
  Running Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux.
  
  Can you guys please tell me what should i 
  check? 
  Would you mind to explain in detail? 'Cos I'm just 
  a junior DBA.
  
  Thanks in advance.
  


RE: What makes Oracle DB shutdown automatically?

2002-11-25 Thread Naveen Nahata



The database normally doesn't shutdown automatically. If there are errors 
which inhibit DB operations oracle shuts down the instance and writes the error 
in the sidalert.log file. This file can be found at the location 
specified by background_dump_destination init.ora parameter.

You can open the alert.log file in a text editor and scroll to see the 
error which resulted in the Shutdown. Then you can lookup the error in Oracle's 
Error Messages manual, which might give you the explanation of the error and a 
possible solution. If it doesn't you can search metalink/google for the error 
message or post it in this mailing list to get the solution.

Regards
Naveen

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  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: What 
  makes Oracle DB shutdown automatically?
  Dear all DBAs,
  
  I wonder what're the possible reasons that make 
  Oracle DBshutdown automatically?
  Linux is running well.
  It first running very slow andsuddenly 
  shutdown.
  
  Running Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux.
  
  Can you guys please tell me what should i 
  check? 
  Would you mind to explain in detail? 'Cos I'm just 
  a junior DBA.
  
  Thanks in advance.
  


Re: 1M STRIPE SIZE BEST?

2002-11-25 Thread Connor McDonald
Just depends on your settings...

eg  max phys io = 1m, db mult read * blk size = 1m

then 
- 64k stripe means 16 disks in the read
- 128k means 8
- 512k means 2
- 1m means 1

etc

Involving lots of disks in a single read tends be good
for systems will small user populations (basically
you're better at a given point in time there will only
be 1 or 2 concurrent queries on the system and you
still want to maximise IO bandwidth).  As the user
population gets larger, then involving lots of disks
in a single read can often lead to IO thrashing

Cheers
Connor

 --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Maybe I've forgotten something fundamental about the
 way
 RAID 5 works, I dunno.
 
 But I'm having a hard time understanding how stripe
 size is
 going to determine the number of heads used in an
 IO.
 
 RAID 5 distributes the data across all spindles,
 with 1 or more
 of the spindles for any IO being used for the parity
 data.
 
 Someone care to enlighten me?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jared
 
 On Thursday 21 November 2002 06:33, Thomas Day
 wrote:
  We had a discussion about a year ago here and if I
 remember correctly the
  best stripe size is a function of number of
 concurrent users.  With a
  small number of users you want a small stripe size
 so that each read i/o
  will utilize the maximum number of heads.  It will
 also tie up the RAID
  device for the duration of the read.  With a large
 number of users you want
  a very large stripe size so that a minimum of
 heads will be used for each
  read and the RAID device can handle multiple
 requests at a time.
 
  I don't recall any specific numbers and, as you
 say, the technology is
  changing so quickly that a discussion from a year
 ago may not be pertinent
  to today's environment.
 
 
 
 
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1M STRIPE SIZE BEST?
 
 
  11/20/2002
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  Please
  respond to
  ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 
 
 
  A number of papers recommend a stripe size of 1 M
 (even for EMC) for
  volumes
  containing data files.  I also have the following
 email from Eyal Aronoff
  of
  Quest dated Nov 2000.  A number of the white
 papers are more recent.
 
 


  The reasons for a larger stripe size on a non-RAID
 5 device are:
  1) Sequential reads are faster if you can take
 advantege of the read ahead
  built into the disk caching
  2) If a 64K read does not start on the first block
 of the stripe, two
  spindled are locked for the duration of the read
 
  However, lately we have been testing some EMC gear
 and it looks like EMC
  have optimized both of those for smaller strip
 size too.
 
  The bottom line - I no longer have an opinion one
 way or another. The
  undelying technology just changes too rapidly.
 
  Eyal
 


 
  Your opinions/comments as far as a best practice
 in setting stripe sizes
  would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks,
  Ethan
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Re: What makes Oracle DB shutdown automatically?

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RE: What makes Oracle DB shutdown automatically?

2002-11-25 Thread shuan.tay\(PCI\)



This is the alert log file, and i try to search 
for error ORA-00313, it's:

"ORA-00313 open failed for members of log group 
string of thread stringCause: The online log cannot be opened. The file may 
not be in the expected location.Action: Specify the correct redo log file or 
make the log available, if necessary."

Is it correct? What's the online log mentioned 
here?
Redo log?

-alert_pcia.log--
LGWR: terminating instance due to error 
313Instance terminated by LGWR, pid = 2025Mon Nov 25 15:07:56 
2002Starting ORACLE instance (normal)LICENSE_MAX_SESSION = 
0LICENSE_SESSIONS_WARNING = 0LICENSE_MAX_USERS = 0Starting up ORACLE 
RDBMS Version: 8.0.5.0.0.System parameters with non-default 
values: 
processes 
= 300 
event 
= 10805 trace name context forever, level 1  
shared_pool_size = 
1900 
control_files 
= $ORACLE_HOME/dbs/ctl1pcia.dbf, $ORACLE_HOME/dbs/ctl2pcia.dbf, 
$ORACLE_HOME/dbs/ctl3pcia.dbf, $ORACLE_HOME/dbs/ctl4pcia.dbf 
db_block_buffers = 550 
db_block_size 
= 8192 
compatible 
= 8.0.5.0.0 
log_buffer 
= 163840 log_checkpoint_interval = 1 
db_files 
= 500 db_file_multiblock_read_count= 16 
dml_locks 
= 500 rollback_segments = 
rbs01, rbs06, rbs02, rbs07, rbs03, rbs08, rbs04, rbs09, rbs05, rbs10, rbs20, 
rbs15, rbs19, rbs14, rbs18, rbs13, rbs17, rbs12, rbs16, rbs11, rb30, rb21, rb29, 
rb22, rb27, rb23, rb26, rb24, rb25 sequence_cache_entries 
= 100 sequence_cache_hash_buckets= 23 
remote_login_passwordfile= NONE 
global_names 
= FALSE 
db_name 
= pcia 
open_cursors 
= 10 os_authent_prefix = 
 background_dump_dest = 
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/trace 
user_dump_dest = 
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/trace 
max_dump_file_size = 10240PMON started 
with pid=2DBW0 started with pid=3LGWR started with pid=4CKPT started 
with pid=5SMON started with pid=6RECO started with pid=7Mon Nov 25 
15:07:56 2002alter database mountMon Nov 25 15:08:00 
2002Successful mount of redo thread 1, with mount id 810458128.Mon Nov 
25 15:08:00 2002Database mounted in Exclusive Mode.Completed: alter 
database mountMon Nov 25 15:08:00 2002alter database open 
Beginning crash recovery of 1 threadsRecovery of Online Redo Log: Thread 
1 Group 1 Seq 16402 Reading mem 0 Mem# 0 errs 0: 
/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.0.5/dbs/log1pcia.log Mem# 1 errs 0: 
/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.0.5/dbs/log4pcia.logCrash recovery 
completed successfullyPicked broadcast on commit scheme to generate 
SCNs

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IMP-00098: Internal Error: impccr2

2002-11-25 Thread Joshua Becker
Hi all,
I received quite interesting error during import. I am trying to put the dump from 8.1.6 database to 9i rel2 database on win2k server.
The export dump was done with WE8ISO8859P1 character set and the target db is with UTF8 character set...
Do you have any idea, or should I contact oracle support!
Rgds,
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Busenkelt!

Re: instance shutdown problem ? (please help)

2002-11-25 Thread john
thanks to all who are helping with this problem.

control file(s) are missing. since this is a new install it might
have been that the control files were never created. 
the oracle docs (support) tell to use CREATE CONTROLFILE
statement to create control file(s). but i need to know the
complete procedure. would you know the complete statement and
procedure to generate control files. do we have to change the
db/sid name ?






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 have a reply 
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 Hmm, I think the error is right there in a snippet fo the alert
 log in
 the poster's original message. ORA-205 Error in identifying
 controlfile.
 
 The database will not start because Oracle cannot find or access
 one
 or more of the controlfiles.
 
 Are all the postings today about controlfiles?
 
 --
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 http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
 
 On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Arup Nanda wrote:
 
   Well, system does not do a shutdown abort. Oracle finds a
 problem and 
 then
   instance aborts.
  
   A few things you can do here.
  
   (1) See if a trace file is generated around that time in
 user_dump_dest 
 or
   background_dump_dest that might provide clues. If you see a
 core fiel in 
 any
   directory named core_* in the core_dump_dest, it has cored
 dumped.
  
   (2) Start the database from command line. From NT services
 panel, make 
 the
   services OracleServiceXXX manual, from automatic. Then reboot
 the box. 
 Start
   the service manually and then see what happens in the
 process.
  
   (3) Start the instance and service in a command prompt window
 using 
 oradim
   comamnd. I am not sure of the options; but the oradim command
 gives a 
 help.
  
   At some point you would hit a problem that is decipherable.
 Please let 
 us
   know what came out of it.
  
   From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   ver 8i NT4.o
   all services have been set to automatic and start fine
   
   however the NT Event Viwer and the oracle alert.log
   show that the instance being shutdown just after the
   box boots up.
   
   how do we rectify this problem ?
   
   below is from the alert.log
   
   ORA-205 signalled during: alter database mount exclusive..
   Shutting down instance (abort)
   License high water mark = 5
   Instance terminated by USER, pid = 144
   ---
   please note: the shutdwon was not initiated by any admin
   or user but done by the system itself after the box boots
   up.
 
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RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?

2002-11-25 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?






Hi Doug, 


I can't answer the question about rman... but if you recreate the controlfile you will have a new incarnation number of the database. Have you tried that? 

Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Monkey
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063



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Subject: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?


Someone has just told me you can't do an RMAN backup of a clone because it has
the same database id as the original. Is this true or not? If so, how to get
around it?


Thanks,
Doug


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Re: instance shutdown problem ? (please help)

2002-11-25 Thread Arup Nanda



John,

If you ever had a running database, you did have a 
controlfile. This is a new install; but are you saying that there was never a 
database created, with datafiles, redo log files, etc. and you never stored 
data?

If so then there is no problem. Just use Oracle 
Database Configuration Manager and delete the instance that is running. And then 
create a new instance with the same name. You don't have to remember or write 
the controlfiel creation command.

However, if the database was created and you had 
data in that, then unless the database is is archivelog mode you can't just 
create a controlfile. Even if it's in archivelog mode, in order to create a 
controlfile, you need to know the exact location and names of datafiles and redo 
log files as well as block sizes, etc. I kind of assume that would be a little 
difficult to do. But if you can do it, just get the syntax from the manual. Here 
it is, just in case.

CREATE CONTROLFILE 
   DATABASE MYSID   LOGFILE GROUP 1 ('c:\oradata\log1.log', 'd:\oradata\log1.log') SIZE 50K, 
   GROUP 2 ('c:\oradata\log2.log', 'd:\oradata\log2.log') SIZE 50K 
   NORESETLOGS 
   DATAFILE 'c:\oradata\system.dat' SIZE 100M 
  MAXLOGFILES 5 
  MAXLOGHISTORY 100 
  MAXDATAFILES 10 
  MAXINSTANCES 2 
  ARCHIVELOG
   CHARACTER SET F7DEC; 
Of course, this is an example. Please replace the necessary details with your environment.HTHArup Nandawww.proligence.com

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help)
 thanks to all who are helping with this problem.  
control file(s) are missing. since this is a new install it might have 
been that the control files were never created.  the oracle docs 
(support) tell to use "CREATE CONTROLFILE" statement to create control 
file(s). but i need to know the complete procedure. would you know the 
complete statement and procedure to generate control files. do we have 
to change the db/sid name ? 
  --- Arup Nanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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I  have a reply   that catered to the missing 
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start because Oracle cannot find or access  one  or 
more of the controlfiles.Are all the 
postings today about controlfiles?-- 
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http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwiltonOn Sat, 
23 Nov 2002, Arup Nanda wrote:  Well, 
system does not do a shutdown abort. Oracle finds a  problem and 
  theninstance aborts.   
A few things you can do here.   
(1) See if a trace file is generated around that 
time in  user_dump_dest   or
background_dump_dest that might provide clues. If you see a  core 
fiel in   anydirectory named core_* in 
the core_dump_dest, it has cored  dumped.   
(2) Start the database from command line. >From NT 
services  panel, make   the
services OracleServiceXXX manual, from automatic. Then reboot  the 
box.   Startthe service manually and 
then see what happens in the  process.   
(3) Start the instance and service in a command 
prompt window  using   oradim
comamnd. I am not sure of the options; but the oradim command  gives 
a   help.   At some 
point you would hit a problem that is decipherable.  Please let 
  usknow what came out of it. 
  From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  ver 8i NT4.o
all services have been set to automatic and start fine   
 however the NT 

how do I calculate the Oracle's usage

2002-11-25 Thread Gurelei
Hi.

I'm trying to figure out how much of the srever's
resources (CPU-wise) a database and the application
running against it is taking. There are several 
databases on that server and I'm only interested in 
one so vmstat won't really help that much. Besides
just running ps -ef | grep INSTANCE is there any other
way for me to get a feeling of the load that puts on
the CPU my database?

thanks

Gene

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RE: Oracle is a time machine!!

2002-11-25 Thread Jay Hostetter
Did you try it with different NLS_LANGUAGE and NLS_TERRITORY settings?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/22/02 03:49PM 
Yes. This is where it gets interesting. England and the colonies didn't
adopt the Gregorian Calendar Reform until September, 1752.

October, 1582 had its normal 31 days in the British Empire and September,
1752 had its normal 30 days outside the British Empire.

So what does all this mean? Technically, Oracle's date routines are correct
in some parts of the world but not others.

Happy Friday, 
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Does it have any relation to year 1752 adjustment for leap year?

Try following on unix ..

cal 9 1752

   September 1752
 S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
   1  2 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
 
-Rachna

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 create table test(the_date date);
 
 insert into test values (to_date('10-05-1582','mm-dd-') );
 
 select to_char(the_date, 'mm/dd/') from test;  
 
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RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?

2002-11-25 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
Unfortunately, this problem is with the DBID, not anything in the
controlfile.  Oracle 9.2 comes with a utility called 'nid' in
$ORACLE_HOME/bin/, which can change the DBID of a database.  AFAIK,
there is no other way to change the DBID, and you just have to use
another catalog.

I think nid may work on lower version databases, but I am not sure.
Check out the docs.

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Koivu, Lisa wrote:

 I can't answer the question about rman... but if you recreate the
 controlfile you will have a new incarnation number of the database.  Have
 you tried that? 
 
  -Original Message-
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  Someone has just told me you can't do an RMAN backup of a clone because it
  has
  the same database id as the original.   Is this true or not?  If so, how
  to get
  around it?

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Need to customize execution plan for a cross table.

2002-11-25 Thread Mohammed Shakir

I have a cross table that connects data in two base tables. If base
table 1 is the driving table, query execution time is 0.02 seconds. If
base table 2 is the driving table, query execution time is 0.5 seconds.
But when this query is executed 10K times, it addes 1.5 hours to the
processing time.

Execution plan is simple when base table 1 is the driving table. It is
based on nested loop. First select data from table 1. Based on data
selected from table 1, select data from cross table using nested loop.
Do the same for base table 2. Cross table allows very quick data
selection from base table 2. Oracle does a good job at it.

When base table 2 is the driving table, execution plan changes
drastically. Now it uses sort-merge and merge join cartesian. Rather
than cross table used to quickly get data from the next base table, it
is used last.

So first select the data from base table 2. Then get all the records
from base table 1 and sort - merge it with table 1. Now do nested loop
join between this data and cross table data.

Since either of the two base tables can be a driving table, the only
way I found is that I should create two separate queries, use ordered
and nested_loop hints and this should work. However, the query is a
view and therefore, I need to look into other possibilities.

Any ideas?

I am using oracle 8i(64 bits)(81.7.4) on Solaris(2.8). Also using cost
based optimizer.


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RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?

2002-11-25 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Title: RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?



Good 
to hear from you Lisa!! Welcome Back!!

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
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  RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?
  Hi Doug, 
  I can't answer the question about 
  rman... but if you recreate the controlfile you will have a new incarnation 
  number of the database. Have you tried that? 
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Monkey Fairfield 
  Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek 
  Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 
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Someone has just told me you can't do an RMAN 
backup of a clone because it has the same 
database id as the original. Is this true or not? If so, 
how to get around it? 
Thanks, Doug 
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Re: instance shutdown problem ? (please help)

2002-11-25 Thread orafaq
John

If this is a new install then why dont you just do the install again.
Otherwise you can use following

STARTUP NOMOUNT
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE WMPROD NORESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG
MAXLOGFILES 32
MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
MAXDATAFILES 500
MAXINSTANCES 10
MAXLOGHISTORY 3630
LOGFILE
  GROUP 1(
'/ora/redo1/wmprod/redo1a.log',
'/ora/redo2/wmprod/redo1b.log'
  ) SIZE 700M,
..
DATAFILE
  '/ora/ts4/wmprod/system01.dbf',
..
;


Justput in names of you all your redologs and data files.  You may have to
do a recovery afterwards.

-Shaleen
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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:48 AM


 thanks to all who are helping with this problem.

 control file(s) are missing. since this is a new install it might
 have been that the control files were never created.
 the oracle docs (support) tell to use CREATE CONTROLFILE
 statement to create control file(s). but i need to know the
 complete procedure. would you know the complete statement and
 procedure to generate control files. do we have to change the
 db/sid name ?






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  Hmm, I think the error is right there in a snippet fo the alert
  log in
  the poster's original message. ORA-205 Error in identifying
  controlfile.
  
  The database will not start because Oracle cannot find or access
  one
  or more of the controlfiles.
  
  Are all the postings today about controlfiles?
  
  --
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  On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Arup Nanda wrote:
  
Well, system does not do a shutdown abort. Oracle finds a
  problem and
  then
instance aborts.
   
A few things you can do here.
   
(1) See if a trace file is generated around that time in
  user_dump_dest
  or
background_dump_dest that might provide clues. If you see a
  core fiel in
  any
directory named core_* in the core_dump_dest, it has cored
  dumped.
   
(2) Start the database from command line. From NT services
  panel, make
  the
services OracleServiceXXX manual, from automatic. Then reboot
  the box.
  Start
the service manually and then see what happens in the
  process.
   
(3) Start the instance and service in a command prompt window
  using
  oradim
comamnd. I am not sure of the options; but the oradim command
  gives a
  help.
   
At some point you would hit a problem that is decipherable.
  Please let
  us
know what came out of it.
   
From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ver 8i NT4.o
all services have been set to automatic and start fine

however the NT Event Viwer and the oracle alert.log
show that the instance being shutdown just after the
box boots up.

how do we rectify this problem ?

below is from the alert.log

ORA-205 signalled during: alter database mount exclusive..
Shutting down instance (abort)
License high water mark = 5
Instance terminated by USER, pid = 144
---
please note: the shutdwon was not initiated by any admin
or user but done by the system itself after the box boots
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How are rollback segments assigned?

2002-11-25 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Hello Friends,

Oracle Parallel Server 8.0.6.2.0 on Solaris 2.6 Nodes

We were having some locking and rollback issues, and I set up some scripts
to alert me in case there are more than 4 transactions in the rollback
segments, and more than 1 in any of the rollback segments.

Select sum(xacts) from v$rollstat  --- Alert if more than 4, condition set
to exclude system rollback
where usn != 0

Select count(*) from v$rollstat  --- Alert if more than 0, where
condition to exclude system rollback
where xacts =2
andusn != 0

We have 20 rollback segments, and there is very minimal DML activity on
this database. I happened to see a scenario where all rollback segments had
0 transactions, except for one which had 2 in them. Under what scenario,
can this happen?

I thought the criteria for assigning rollback segments to transactions was
1. If object in system tablespace, use system rolback segment
2. Use the one with the least number of active transactions
3. If 2 or more rollback segments fit the second criteria, use the LRU
algorithm.

Thanks
Raj

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Optimizer tuning parameter not working?

2002-11-25 Thread Mohammed Shakir
I changed the optimizer_search_limit value to 1 in init.ora to minimize
the cartesian product in my execution plans. But I do not see any
change in my execution plans. Am I missing something?

I modified init.ora and bounced the database. I have also tried to run
the query after manually set it in my sql session without any change in
results. I tried it on NT/Oracle 8.1.7.4.1

I noticed that my execution plans do not change for the following
tuning parameters either.

1. Optimizer_index_cost_adj=50
2. Optimizer_max_permutations=7

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RE: how do I calculate the Oracle's usage

2002-11-25 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: how do I calculate the Oracle's usage





Hi Gene, 


Wouldn't top at least be a place to start? You could take snapshots of what's happening on top several times throughout the day and at least make a quick guesstimate from there. You could also look at sar - I forget which switch displayes cpu usage. 

This is a very simplistic approach and I'm sure there's probably tools and other more specific and detailed metrics available since you are so lucky to have a UNIX machine. 

Lisa Koivu
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Hi.


I'm trying to figure out how much of the srever's
resources (CPU-wise) a database and the application
running against it is taking. There are several 
databases on that server and I'm only interested in 
one so vmstat won't really help that much. Besides
just running ps -ef | grep INSTANCE is there any other
way for me to get a feeling of the load that puts on
the CPU my database?


thanks


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LONG's

2002-11-25 Thread Hand, Michael T



OK, so 
you can't CTAS on tables with LONG or LONG RAW columns, and now I find out that 
the same restriction exists on Alter Table ... Move. So, is there 
any other option to move these tables from one tablespace to another without 
exp/imp or converting them to LOB?

Thanks,
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Re: Do user processes apply against shmmax limit?

2002-11-25 Thread Jared Still

... and we butt headlong into another fine myth, that is that
the SGA must fit into one segment.


On Sunday 24 November 2002 15:53, Richard Ji wrote:
 if that SGA + user processes  shmmax the system will start swapping.

 That's not true.  If your SGA is bigger than shmmax, it just means
 the SGA will be fit into multiple shared memory segments.  Doesn't
 necessary mean the system will start swapping.  Is the scan rate
 going up?

 Richard

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 Hi everyone,

 I was always under the impression that the only concern with shmmax was
 that it be large enough for the SGA to fit into it. One of my System
 Administrators has just told me that the individual user processes (i.e.,
 the PGA since we're not using multi-threaded server) get added to the SGA
 and if that SGA + user processes  shmmax the system will start swapping.

 I haven't found anything to specifically address this issue on Metalink so
 I though I'd throw it open. We've started experiencing  system slowdown and
 he says that increasing shmmax could resolve it. I'm skeptical (he also
 suggested increasing SGA to decrease swapping which I told him in no
 uncertain terms was nonsense).

 If anyone has a link to a note or white paper I'd appreciate that too.

 I've appended his email at the bottom. This slowdown seems to occur even
 when there's virtually on oracle activity so I'm suspecting some other
 cause.

 Thanks,
 Jay Miller




 nycsun1 and njsun7 has 6 GB of memory and only 2 GB of share memory. This
 morning nycsun1 was very slow and I noticed that there was lots of swaping.
 see vmstst and iostat below in red:

 procs memorypagedisk  faults  cpu
  r b w   swap  free  re  mf pi po fr de sr s2 s4 s4 sd   in   sy   cs us sy
 id
  0 0 23 4366736 97528 1 2186 16 12 12 95520 0 0 0 0  0 1104 3330  974 11  8
 81
  0 0 23 4365992 96056 1 451 16 24 52 85968 3 0 0  0  0  935  847  416  3  1
 96
  0 0 23 4364712 95512 2 310 36 24 492 85968 68 0 0 0 0 1036 2183  670 13  4
 84
  0 0 23 4361568 95488 9 2264 0 76 964 95520 136 0 0 0 0 979 4065  607 12  6
 82
  0 0 23 4362384 96080 1   6  4  8  8 77376 0 0 0  0  0  975  465  457  2  1
 97
  0 0 23 4361944 95712 4 730 92 48 532 95520 64 0 0 0 0 1040 1859  734  8  3
 89
  0 0 23 4360424 95480 4  41 36 40 100 77376 7 0 0 0  0  986 1250  542  6  0
 94
  0 0 23 4361304 96096 3 264 76 36 88 88496 7 0 0  0  0 1037  942  665  5  3
 92
  0 0 23 4359680 95784 2 449  4 28 84 95520 8 0 0  0  0  922 1047  374  4  1
 95
  0 0 23 4359936 95464 2 544  4 20 332 95520 44 0 0 0 0  931 1095  384  2  2
 96

 /s  w/s   kr/s   kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t  %w  %b device
   0.0  0.00.00.0  0.0  0.00.00.0   0   0 c2t6d0
   0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.2 13.86.7  399.5   6  44 c5t12d0 -- swap
 disk
   0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.5 10.7   15.5  309.4  18  39 c5t13d0 -- swap
 disk


 This shows that the system is not effectively using memory. I suggest
 increasing the share memory to 4 GB so that DBAs can increase their memory
 usage. Also set priority paging on. Priority paging will give application
 first priority then free memory will be allocated to file cache( Solaris
 2.6 and 7. Solaris 8 is set dynamically).

 * ORACLE CONFIGS
 set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax  =204800 -- increase to 409600
 set shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1
 set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni=300
 set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg=30
 set semsys:seminfo_semmap=500
 set semsys:seminfo_semmni=200
 set semsys:seminfo_semmns=2000
 set semsys:seminfo_semmsl=1000
 set semsys:seminfo_semmnu=500
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Modify Table restrictions

2002-11-25 Thread Francisco Murillo Montoya
Hello;

Somebody knows how to view the restrictions
Of a table, and quit one of the restrictions?

Thank you.

Francisco Murillo

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Re: LONG's

2002-11-25 Thread Connor McDonald
Its called the C compiler :-)

If the LONG's are not so long  (ie less than 32k) you
can get away with just plain old static PLSQL to get
at the data, otherwise you can look at dbms_sql

hth
connor

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OK, so you can't CTAS on tables with LONG or LONG
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 there any other option to move these tables from one
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Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's email ?

2002-11-25 Thread Martin Kendall
My Norton Antivirus reports that Stephane's  email re. How to pass
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Re: Optimizer tuning parameter not working?

2002-11-25 Thread Connor McDonald
Generally you'll changes in the 'cost' figure when
playing with Optimizer_index_cost_adj.  If you change
the permutations figure, you'd probably need to look
at 10053 to see the differences going on...

Oracle pretty rarely chooses a cartesian product
(between tables of any siginificant size that is), so
maybe you might want to look at the sql and/or the
indexes on the schema before looking for a solution in
the optimizer parms..

hth
connor

 --- Mohammed Shakir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
I changed the optimizer_search_limit value to 1 in
 init.ora to minimize
 the cartesian product in my execution plans. But I
 do not see any
 change in my execution plans. Am I missing
 something?
 
 I modified init.ora and bounced the database. I have
 also tried to run
 the query after manually set it in my sql session
 without any change in
 results. I tried it on NT/Oracle 8.1.7.4.1
 
 I noticed that my execution plans do not change for
 the following
 tuning parameters either.
 
 1. Optimizer_index_cost_adj=50
 2. Optimizer_max_permutations=7
 
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Re: instance shutdown problem ? (please help)

2002-11-25 Thread orafaq
John

If this is a new install then why dont you just do the install again.
Otherwise you can use following

STARTUP NOMOUNT
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE WMPROD NORESETLOGS ARCHIVELOG
MAXLOGFILES 32
MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
MAXDATAFILES 500
MAXINSTANCES 10
MAXLOGHISTORY 3630
LOGFILE
  GROUP 1(
'/ora/redo1/wmprod/redo1a.log',
'/ora/redo2/wmprod/redo1b.log'
  ) SIZE 700M,
..
DATAFILE
  '/ora/ts4/wmprod/system01.dbf',
..
;


Justput in names of you all your redologs and data files.  You may have to
do a recovery afterwards.

-Shaleen

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 thanks to all who are helping with this problem.
 
 control file(s) are missing. since this is a new install it might
 have been that the control files were never created. 
 the oracle docs (support) tell to use CREATE CONTROLFILE
 statement to create control file(s). but i need to know the
 complete procedure. would you know the complete statement and
 procedure to generate control files. do we have to change the
 db/sid name ?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  Hmm, I think the error is right there in a snippet fo the alert
  log in
  the poster's original message. ORA-205 Error in identifying
  controlfile.
  
  The database will not start because Oracle cannot find or access
  one
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  Are all the postings today about controlfiles?
  
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  On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Arup Nanda wrote:
  
Well, system does not do a shutdown abort. Oracle finds a
  problem and 
  then
instance aborts.
   
A few things you can do here.
   
(1) See if a trace file is generated around that time in
  user_dump_dest 
  or
background_dump_dest that might provide clues. If you see a
  core fiel in 
  any
directory named core_* in the core_dump_dest, it has cored
  dumped.
   
(2) Start the database from command line. From NT services
  panel, make 
  the
services OracleServiceXXX manual, from automatic. Then reboot
  the box. 
  Start
the service manually and then see what happens in the
  process.
   
(3) Start the instance and service in a command prompt window
  using 
  oradim
comamnd. I am not sure of the options; but the oradim command
  gives a 
  help.
   
At some point you would hit a problem that is decipherable.
  Please let 
  us
know what came out of it.
   
From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ver 8i NT4.o
all services have been set to automatic and start fine

however the NT Event Viwer and the oracle alert.log
show that the instance being shutdown just after the
box boots up.

how do we rectify this problem ?

below is from the alert.log

ORA-205 signalled during: alter database mount exclusive..
Shutting down instance (abort)
License high water mark = 5
Instance terminated by USER, pid = 144
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please note: the shutdwon was not initiated by any admin
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RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?

2002-11-25 Thread Hand, Michael T
Doug,
I have successfully tested this method for changing the the dbid {gleaned
from Ron Yount's procedure].

Changing the Dbid of copied database: Ron Yount from the Oracle-L provided
the following steps if it becomes necessary to change the Dbid of a copied
database to allow an RMAN catalog to backup both source and target database.
This should occur at the tail of the SAP Database Copy procedure.  [Tested
successfully on GTS refresh 5/13/02]
Use sqlplus to connect internal (if using sqlplus comment # must be changed
to 'rem' or '--')
SQL startup nomount
SQL @c.sql /* create controlfile with set database  resetlogs */
SQL select name,dbid from v$database; (There should be a new name, but same
dbid from step 3)
SQL shutdown normal
SQL startup mount
SQL exec dbms_backup_restore.zeroDbid(0);
SQL shutdown normal
Rename the control files from the new instance, so they will appear to be
missing.
SQL startup nomount
SQL @c.sql
SQL alter database open resetlogs;
SQL select name, dbid from v$database.  (There should be the new name, and
new dbid)

HTH

Mike Hand
Polaroid Corp.

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Someone has just told me you can't do an RMAN backup of a clone because it
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get
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Re: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?

2002-11-25 Thread orafaq
Use following command to generate new dbid.

dbms_backup_restore.zeroDbid(0)

Read Note:164870.1 on metalink for complete procedure.

HTH
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 Unfortunately, this problem is with the DBID, not anything in the
 controlfile.  Oracle 9.2 comes with a utility called 'nid' in
 $ORACLE_HOME/bin/, which can change the DBID of a database.  AFAIK,
 there is no other way to change the DBID, and you just have to use
 another catalog.

 I think nid may work on lower version databases, but I am not sure.
 Check out the docs.

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 On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Koivu, Lisa wrote:

  I can't answer the question about rman... but if you recreate the
  controlfile you will have a new incarnation number of the database.
Have
  you tried that?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Doug C [SMTP: ]
  
   Someone has just told me you can't do an RMAN backup of a clone
because it
   has
   the same database id as the original.   Is this true or not?  If so,
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RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Lee

You can change the DBID as mentioned in other messages.
(see metalink doc id 174625.1)

If you don't want to change the DBID, you can still backup the database
using RMAN; you just can't use the same schema in the same rman catalog
database as the original.

You can:
1. Use a different catalog database.
2. Use a different schema in the same catalog database (for example
rman_prod and rman_test schemas).
3. Don't use a catalog, and rely entirely on the control files as your
catalog.



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woohoo virus sent to the list

2002-11-25 Thread JOE TESTA



at least i got it(of course linux says: "you want me to save that 
.scr file?"

bwaahhaahahha, linxu rulz.

Jared, it slipped thru because it was a .scr? masked as a mime type 
.wav file?

just curious since fatcity is pretty draned good about catching those 
things.

joe



RE: Oracle 10i features

2002-11-25 Thread Johnston, Tim
I'm not sure I'd go that far...  Old habits (and prejudices) die hard...

:-)

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Look for it to improve dramatically.

I might even try to use it.

Jared

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  Good grief.  Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and
  hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option,
  even if you're already licensed for EE?
 
  I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj:
 
  The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a
  J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server,
leverages
  all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS
  instance.
 
  I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I
  started... sigh
 
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Re: how do I calculate the Oracle's usage

2002-11-25 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
How about you collect the following value from each instance on the
host, wait a few hours, then collect the numbers again?  You can then
subtract the earlier values from the later values, and you'll have a
good idea which instances are using more CPU relative to the others.

SQL select value from v$sysstat where name = 'CPU used by this session';

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Gurelei wrote:

 I'm trying to figure out how much of the srever's resources
 (CPU-wise) a database and the application running against it is
 taking. There are several databases on that server and I'm only
 interested in one so vmstat won't really help that much. Besides
 just running ps -ef | grep INSTANCE is there any other way for me to
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Two bugs in 9202 (that bit us)

2002-11-25 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Two bugs in 9202 (that bit us)





FYI,


Oracle 9202 ... If you are using intermedia and have cursor_sharing to anything other than EXACT, oracle will start throwing ORA-600 errors. You can set it to EXACT (the only workaround) at session level if you want, but I recommend to set it in init. This is fixed in 10i. 

Also we ran into a problem with ora-600 [kclchkinteg_15] (you have two global cache buffers pointing to same data block buffer but in incompatible mode) ... this is in 9202, a patch is out, we will test it today  tomorrow and see how that works.

Then I ask myself ... isn't it fun to be on the cutting edge of the release?
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Re: Modify Table restrictions

2002-11-25 Thread Igor Neyman
Did you mean constraints?
Check USER_CONSTRAINTS.
To remove one: alter table table_name drop constraint...

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 Hello;
 
 Somebody knows how to view the restrictions
 Of a table, and quit one of the restrictions?
 
 Thank you.
 
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RE: A way to restore a DB

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Lee

From the rest of you message, I would say there is something wrong with the
hardware setup of your database.  If the setup is such that you can lose an
entire database of nearly 4 TB, then your backup/restore speed is the LEAST
of your problems.  You disk striping and mirroring should prevent the lose
of the database in the vent of a disk failure; I would even consider
mirroring across more than one storage array so that you can survive the
loss of an entire storage array.

If finances don't permit complete redundancy, the setup should be such that
you never lose more than fraction of the database (i.e. a datafile or two
... or three).  Then you only restore and recover the datafile(s) rather
than the entire database.  I can't imagine a setup where the loss of a disk,
or even a controller, would cause the COMPLETE loss of a 4TB database.

This whole thing looks very much like somebody screwed up and delete files.
I suspect that a trip to Hell would reveal the rm -rf * command sitting at
Satan's right hand.


 -Original Message-
 We are evaluating a strange way to recover a production DB.
 This is a 3.7 TB database,
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9i Lite

2002-11-25 Thread Saira Somani
I wonder if there are any mailing lists out there for Oracle 9i Lite. Or
for that matter, if any of you have used in the past or are using it now
and would like to brainstorm once in a while on this topic. I struggle
with its administration sometimes.

If you can point me in a direction (other than the Oracle forums on
their website), I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Saira Somani
IT Support/Analyst
Hospital Logistics Inc. 

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RE: Oracle 10i features

2002-11-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
ah, but the people working on it have changed.

Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
John Beresniewicz
James Morle

to name just a few


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 Look for it to improve dramatically.
 
 I might even try to use it.
 
 Jared
 
 On Sunday 17 November 2002 06:13, J. Laurindo Chiappa wrote:
  Jared, just a thought :  ** WHY **  Oracle experts charged in OEM
  developmentcan´t do anything close - fast, sweet  simple , just to
 the
  point ?? Until now, OEM is just a pile of *hit, plain  simple.
 
   Regards,
 
Chiappa
 
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  Check out OraC, written in Perl of course.  :)
  
  http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/
  
  Jared
  
  On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote:
   Good grief.  Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead
 and
   hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost)
 option,
   even if you're already licensed for EE?
  
   I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj:
  
   The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service,
 which, as a
   J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server,
 leverages
   all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the
 Oracle9iAS
   instance.
  
   I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I
   started... sigh
  
   Rich
  
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Replication Manager

2002-11-25 Thread Mike Sardina
Has anyone used Replication Manager with success?  Any feedback on issues you
may have run into would be greatly appreciated.  

Does it come bundled with OEM or is it typically on a separate CD as a
Management Pack?
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Re: Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's email ?

2002-11-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
no alert, but the spam filter on yahoo dumped a different message from
him into bulk mail as it was 122K 

deleted without opening, just in case

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 My Norton Antivirus reports that Stephane's  email re. How to pass
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 virus
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 Anyone else had same alert ?
 
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RE: Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's email ?

2002-11-25 Thread Sherman, Paul R.
Yes. At my end, it was detected and stripped.

Thank you,

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Sr. Oracle DBA Position- Must be 8i and 9i Certified-

2002-11-25 Thread OraStaff
Great opportunity for a Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i AND 9i certification to join
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Re: Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's email ?

2002-11-25 Thread Ana Choto

I did!

Thanks

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RE: HELP ORACLE TO INFORMIX

2002-11-25 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: HELP ORACLE TO INFORMIX





Want to quickly move Oracle table to Informix database using Oracle-INformix gateway. Getting
error ORA-02047 when trying to commit every 1000 rows - do we really need to commit after each 1 row





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Re:Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's ema

2002-11-25 Thread dgoulet
YUP

Dick Goulet

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My Norton Antivirus reports that Stephane's  email re. How to pass
value from SQL*Plus to Unix scripts? contains the W32.Klez.H@mm virus
in an item called stars-bkgrd.

Anyone else had same alert ?

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instance shutdown problem ? (please help)

2002-11-25 Thread O'Neill, Sean
John,

Off the top of my head.  Is correc tinitsid.ora being used and are Control
files in expected locations?

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 Subject: instance shutdown problem ? (please help)

ver 8i NT4.o
all services have been set to automatic and start fine

however the NT Event Viwer and the oracle alert.log
show that the instance being shutdown just after the 
box boots up.

how do we rectify this problem ?

below is from the alert.log

ORA-205 signalled during: alter database mount exclusive..
Shutting down instance (abort)
License high water mark = 5
Instance terminated by USER, pid = 144
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RE: Oracle you have just received a card from .

2002-11-25 Thread Scott . Shafer
What is this, flippin' Virii Day or what?

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DO NOT OPEN EMAIL I JUST SENT YOU!

2002-11-25 Thread Magaliff, Bill
It's a worm/virus - Do NOT try to view the ecard.  JUST DELETE IT

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RE: how do I calculate the Oracle's usage

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Lee
  I'm trying to figure out how much of the srever's resources
  (CPU-wise) a database and the application 

You can try the following.  Substitute the name of the database for ABCD
in the awk command.  On a multi-cpu box, the sum can be more than %100.

ps -eo %cpu -o args | awk '$2 ~ /ABCD/ {sum = sum + $1}; END {print sum}'
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BackupExec Oracle

2002-11-25 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: BackupExec  Oracle





Hello Everyone!


I found out on Friday that my backup strategy has been NULL AND VOID out in Las Vegas. (Read: Nothing has been written to tape lately. Thanks, Guys) I was also notified that effective immediately Veritas BackupExec is the software we are using. 

Any gotchas/experiences/comments from people who have used Backup Exec and the associated Oracle utility? Do you trust BackupExec to fire your rman backups, complete correct rman restores, etc.? I have shied away from writing directly to tape in the past but don't have the luxury of disk for rman backups anymore. 

I'm on Windows 2000 sp2, Oracle version 8.1.7.2


Any comments are appreciated. Thanks


Lisa Koivu
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063





RE: Two bugs in 9202 (that bit us)

2002-11-25 Thread Jesse, Rich
Well that's hardly acceptable for a current release.  Is there a BUG filed
for this to get the fix in 9.2.0.4 or a one-off patch?

Rich


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FYI, 
Oracle 9202 ... If you are using intermedia and have cursor_sharing to
anything other than EXACT, oracle will start throwing ORA-600 errors. You
can set it to EXACT (the only workaround) at session level if you want, but
I recommend to set it in init. This is fixed in 10i. 
Also we ran into a problem with ora-600 [kclchkinteg_15] (you have two
global cache buffers pointing to same data block buffer but in incompatible
mode) ... this is in 9202, a patch is out, we will test it today  tomorrow
and see how that works.
Then I ask myself ... isn't it fun to be on the cutting edge of the release?

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Re: my messages are not getting to list. trying to testeom

2002-11-25 Thread Scott Stefick
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Re: Oracle you have just received a card from .

2002-11-25 Thread Alan Davey
If the below link is what I think it is, its a sleasy form of spam (as if there is 
nice form of spam).  

I received something similar from a friend a few weeks ago.  The web site wants you to 
download some software so that you can read a greeting card from your friend.  If 
you read the End User Agreement, it says that they have the right to send an email 
greeting to everyone in your Outlook Address Book if you use their software.  I didn't 
bother to install beyond that point.

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On 11/25/2002 1:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re:Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's ema

2002-11-25 Thread Bill CONNER
Yep,  love NAV.

At 10:51 AM 11/25/2002 -0800, you wrote:

YUP

Dick Goulet

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My Norton Antivirus reports that Stephane's  email re. How to pass
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in an item called stars-bkgrd.

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Martin




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Re: how do I calculate the Oracle's usage

2002-11-25 Thread Gurelei
Wouldn't this only give me the statistics for
MY current session? I'm looking for the data on 
all the running sessions.

Gene
--- Jeremiah Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How about you collect the following value from each
 instance on the
 host, wait a few hours, then collect the numbers
 again?  You can then
 subtract the earlier values from the later values,
 and you'll have a
 good idea which instances are using more CPU
 relative to the others.
 
 SQL select value from v$sysstat where name = 'CPU
 used by this session';
 
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 http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
 
 On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Gurelei wrote:
 
  I'm trying to figure out how much of the srever's
 resources
  (CPU-wise) a database and the application running
 against it is
  taking. There are several databases on that server
 and I'm only
  interested in one so vmstat won't really help that
 much. Besides
  just running ps -ef | grep INSTANCE is there any
 other way for me to
  get a feeling of the load that puts on the CPU my
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Re: Sr. Oracle DBA Position- Must be 8i and 9i Certified-

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Andert
I guess the response wasn't overwhelming if he is re-posting this again
so soon.  I wonder if they missed the whole discussion awhile back about
the people who never heard from them after sending resumes.  

I use the frequency of these messages and the quality of the job as a
barometer for the condition of the job market.

Stephen 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/02 10:14AM 
Great opportunity for a Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i AND 9i certification to
join
this software
industry leader in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Base salary is in the 90-120K range and depends on experience.

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE Do Not send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the
skills 
outlined below for this position.

Please Do Not send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third
parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

Interested candidates will be required to complete a company
questionnaire
that must be submitted with the resume.

*Description of duties:
Production support of operations required to maintain 7x24
database/application availability.
Logical Design and Physical Design in support of
Production/Development
Database operations 
and support in Solaris/Linux ORACLE 8i/9i environment.
Essential Functions: Backup/recovery, RMAN, Performance tuning, Shell
scripting in Korn and Bourne Shells. ORACLE Internet Directory, ORACLE
Enterprise Manager, development/documentation of standards and
procedures.
ORACLE DBA duties to include user management data exports and imports,
writing ORACLE scripts, general monitoring of system performance. 
Assisting users with SQL and PL/SQL needs in day-to-day operations and
implementation of logical designs.

* Requirements:
-Oracle 8i and 9i Certification
-7+Years in IT
-5+ years of Production Oracle DBA experience..including 8i and 9i
-Knowledge of OPS/RAC, OEM
-Proficient with SQL, PL/SQL, unix shell scritping
-Expert understanding of Oracle architecture 
-Full understanding of Database concepts 
-Knowledge of relational database design 
-Must be a Self-starter. 

For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment
to:

OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: One/Charlotte/Certified DBA/Carol

We pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
qualified/interested
in the
position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
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RE: Problem doing RMAN backup of Clone?

2002-11-25 Thread Freeman, Robert
Also, Oracle9iR2 has a new utility, DBNEWID, that allows you to change the
DBID of a copied database safely. With it you can change:

1. The DBID
2. The DBNAME
3. A combination of 1 and 2.

This utility is covered in pages 412-413 of my new RMAN book.

Prior to 9iR2, you could also use (CAREFULLY) use the procedure
sys.dbms_backup_restore.zerodbid. 
This is documented in page 395 of my RMAN Backup and Recovery book.

RF

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Create the clone using RMAN duplicate command. Than it gets new ID

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Someone has just told me you can't do an RMAN backup of a clone because it
has
the same database id as the original.   Is this true or not?  If so, how to
get
around it?

Thanks,
Doug

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RE: virus

2002-11-25 Thread Freeman, Robert
Since I joined this list I've noticed the number of virus's that my email
virus scan picks up has grown quite a bit

RF

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Somebody is using this list to send a virus, beware !

Jeroen

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RE: Oracle 10i features

2002-11-25 Thread Freeman, Robert
I am confident that we will see some good things out of OEM in the
future Knowing who is working on it now, and knowing what they have done
in the past, I've got a high degree of confidence


...AND expectation!!

:-))

Robert

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I'm not sure I'd go that far...  Old habits (and prejudices) die hard...

:-)

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Look for it to improve dramatically.

I might even try to use it.

Jared

On Sunday 17 November 2002 06:13, J. Laurindo Chiappa wrote:
 Jared, just a thought :  ** WHY **  Oracle experts charged in OEM
 developmentcan´t do anything close - fast, sweet  simple , just to the
 point ?? Until now, OEM is just a pile of *hit, plain  simple.

  Regards,

   Chiappa

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 On 13/11/02 at 05:23 Jared Still wrote:
 Check out OraC, written in Perl of course.  :)
 
 http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/
 
 Jared
 
 On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote:
  Good grief.  Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and
  hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option,
  even if you're already licensed for EE?
 
  I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj:
 
  The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a
  J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server,
leverages
  all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS
  instance.
 
  I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I
  started... sigh
 
  Rich
 
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  New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just
  reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more
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RE: BackupExec Oracle

2002-11-25 Thread Gary Weber
Title: BackupExec & Oracle



Lisa,

One of 
our database servers is identical to your setup - Win2K/8.1.7.2/Veritas 
BackupExec. You'll need to create an Oracle user in each database for Veritas to 
connect to instances and know what tablespaces/datafiles there. Only gotcha is 
the fact that this new user will need to have some low level privs in order to 
be effective. You would then setup Veritas Oracle Agent to backup your 
databases, one by one. Then within Veritas Backup Manager you could create 
Oracle jobs (backup AND restores) manually, or rely on wizard. Either way has 
proven to work well for our two Win2K boxes. Not using RMAN 
though.

Gary WeberSenior DBACharles Jones, LLC||Superior 
Information Services, LLC609-538-1000, ext 5529 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Koivu, LisaSent: Monday, 
November 25, 2002 2:12 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: BackupExec  Oracle
Hello Everyone! 
I found out on Friday that my backup strategy has 
been NULL AND VOID out in Las Vegas. (Read: Nothing has been written 
to tape lately. Thanks, Guys) I was also notified that "effective 
immediately" Veritas BackupExec is the software we are using. 
Any gotchas/experiences/comments from people who have 
used Backup Exec and the associated Oracle utility? Do you trust 
BackupExec to fire your rman backups, complete correct rman restores, 
etc.? I have shied away from writing directly to tape in the past but 
don't have the luxury of disk for rman backups anymore. 
I'm on Windows 2000 sp2, Oracle version 
8.1.7.2 
Any comments are appreciated. Thanks 

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Re: Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's email ?

2002-11-25 Thread Stephane Faroult
Martin Kendall wrote:
 
 My Norton Antivirus reports that Stephane's  email re. How to pass
 value from SQL*Plus to Unix scripts? contains the W32.Klez.H@mm virus
 in an item called stars-bkgrd.
 
 Anyone else had same alert ?
 
 Martin
 
   
 Name: smime.p7s
smime.p7sType: PKCS7 Signature (application/x-pkcs7-signature)
 Encoding: 7bit


Sorry for the trouble, folks, but I have trouble understanding. When I
am answering the list, it is either from a Linux machine (and netscape)
- not infected by W32.Klez.H@mm according to the Symantec site - or from
a mail web interface. I sent the e-mail mentioned above on October 22nd
or October 23rd (two answers to the same question) more than one month
ago, and from Linux. I hope that somebody is not harvesting the list ...
If anybody has any hint about how to check for viruses on a Linux
machine, BTW ...

-- 
Regards,

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Re: Replication Manager

2002-11-25 Thread Arup Nanda
Replication Manager is a part of DBA Studio on OEM with 8i; On OEM with 9i,
the DBA Studio is gone; so the replication manager is on OEM Console.
I use it, for a quick and dirty look at things. I don't use it to create
replication objects etc. However thjat's simply becuase I never used it
earlier and am comfortable using the sql plus.

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 Has anyone used Replication Manager with success?  Any feedback on issues
you
 may have run into would be greatly appreciated.

 Does it come bundled with OEM or is it typically on a separate CD as a
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Re[2]: Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's email ?

2002-11-25 Thread Robert Eskridge
Stephane,

Don't sweat it.  Klez spoofs the sender in it's email, so it probably
came from someone else's machine that had your email address somewhere
on it.

-rje

S Sorry for the trouble, folks, but I have trouble understanding. When I
S am answering the list, it is either from a Linux machine (and netscape)
S - not infected by W32.Klez.H@mm according to the Symantec site - or from
S a mail web interface. I sent the e-mail mentioned above on October 22nd
S or October 23rd (two answers to the same question) more than one month
S ago, and from Linux. I hope that somebody is not harvesting the list ...
S If anybody has any hint about how to check for viruses on a Linux
S machine, BTW ...

S -- 
S Regards,

S Stephane Faroult
S Oriole Software

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Re: Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's email ?

2002-11-25 Thread Dennis M. Heisler
It's not from Stephane's computer (even if he were using a Windows
machine).  From Symantec's website:

The subject line, message bodies, and attachment file names are random.
The From address is randomly-chosen from email addresses that the worm
finds on the infected computer.

I've never gotten an e-mail with the Klez virus from the person who was
listed in the From address.  Very likely it's from someone else on the
list who is infected.

Since Fatcity doesn't pass on the original headers, Bruce is the only
one who will be able to determine the original source.




Stephane Faroult wrote:
 
 Martin Kendall wrote:
 
  My Norton Antivirus reports that Stephane's  email re. How to pass
  value from SQL*Plus to Unix scripts? contains the W32.Klez.H@mm virus
  in an item called stars-bkgrd.
 
  Anyone else had same alert ?
 
  Martin
 

  Name: smime.p7s
 smime.p7sType: PKCS7 Signature (application/x-pkcs7-signature)
  Encoding: 7bit
 
 Sorry for the trouble, folks, but I have trouble understanding. When I
 am answering the list, it is either from a Linux machine (and netscape)
 - not infected by W32.Klez.H@mm according to the Symantec site - or from
 a mail web interface. I sent the e-mail mentioned above on October 22nd
 or October 23rd (two answers to the same question) more than one month
 ago, and from Linux. I hope that somebody is not harvesting the list ...
 If anybody has any hint about how to check for viruses on a Linux
 machine, BTW ...
 
 --
 Regards,
 
 Stephane Faroult
 Oriole Software
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RE: BackupExec Oracle

2002-11-25 Thread Jesse, Rich
If you're using BackupExec to backup the server's filesystems as well as the
Oracle DB, make sure it does NOT hit your database files directly.  Some
Winders admins don't understand that it'll lock the datafiles, redos,
controlfiles, etc from the instance, causing all sorts of icky recovery
scenarios.

At least a few years ago, it locked them under NT 4.0.  I don't know if this
behavior has changed (or is possible to change under NuTFutS) in newer
versions.

Good luck!  :)

Rich


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Hello Everyone! 
I found out on Friday that my backup strategy has been NULL AND VOID out in
Las Vegas.  (Read:  Nothing has been written to tape lately.  Thanks, Guys)
I was also notified that effective immediately Veritas BackupExec is the
software we are using.  
Any gotchas/experiences/comments from people who have used Backup Exec and
the associated Oracle utility?  Do you trust BackupExec to fire your rman
backups, complete correct rman restores, etc.?  I have shied away from
writing directly to tape in the past but don't have the luxury of disk for
rman backups anymore.  
I'm on Windows 2000 sp2, Oracle version 8.1.7.2 
Any comments are appreciated.  Thanks 
Lisa Koivu 
Oracle Database Monkey and Terrible Perl Coder. 
Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway 
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063 
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RE: Klez Worm Info

2002-11-25 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
The Klez worm fakes its from address.  Try checking the offending message's header to 
see whom it  is actually from.  

Things are not always simple.  A short time ago, I was asked if I had a virus as 
someone was receiving multiple copies of mail I sent to either this list or lazydba.  
I made the usual protestations of living a good life and having protected mail.  The 
person replied they received six copies of my denial.  That same day maintenance was 
being done and our mail gateway was temporarily closed.  I received a message saying 
an outgoing mail message was blocked by this closure; the   one saying, No way is it 
I.  Before I apologized, many times over :), I queried our postmaster about  the 
problem.  She explained that the site which was receiving multiple copies was running 
a mail program with a bug.  The bug kept the system from sending an acknowledgement of 
receipt to our system.  Having received no receipt, our system was resending the 
message  over and over again.  She contacted their postmaster and I trust all is well. 

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Martin Kendall wrote:
 
 My Norton Antivirus reports that Stephane's  email re. How to pass 
 value from SQL*Plus to Unix scripts? contains the W32.Klez.H@mm virus 
 in an item called stars-bkgrd.
 
 Anyone else had same alert ?
 
 Martin
 
   
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 Encoding: 7bit


Sorry for the trouble, folks, but I have trouble understanding. When I am answering 
the list, it is either from a Linux machine (and netscape)
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interface. I sent the e-mail mentioned above on October 22nd or October 23rd (two 
answers to the same question) more than one month ago, and from Linux. I hope that 
somebody is not harvesting the list ... If anybody has any hint about how to check for 
viruses on a Linux machine, BTW ...

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Re: Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's email ?

2002-11-25 Thread Pat Hildebrand
It probably is not coming from where it appears. We have an alias for
a group of us that field questions on a particular application. Every
once in awhile we get a message that this virus has been found in a
message that we have sent (supposedly from this alias). Since we are
not sending under that alias we know that it is coming from somewhere
else.

Apparently when a machine is infected it sends out messages randomly
using addresses from the addressbook for the to, from, and reply
to. I'm guessing that if it is using an actual message for the basis
of this it could also be using the from as well as the subject of that
message.


  Pat



 
 Martin Kendall wrote:
  
  My Norton Antivirus reports that Stephane's  email re. How to pass
  value from SQL*Plus to Unix scripts? contains the W32.Klez.H@mm virus
  in an item called stars-bkgrd.
  
  Anyone else had same alert ?
  
  Martin
  

  Name: smime.p7s
 smime.p7sType: PKCS7 Signature (application/x-pkcs7-signature)
  Encoding: 7bit
 
 
 Sorry for the trouble, folks, but I have trouble understanding. When I
 am answering the list, it is either from a Linux machine (and netscape)
 - not infected by W32.Klez.H@mm according to the Symantec site - or from
 a mail web interface. I sent the e-mail mentioned above on October 22nd
 or October 23rd (two answers to the same question) more than one month
 ago, and from Linux. I hope that somebody is not harvesting the list ...
 If anybody has any hint about how to check for viruses on a Linux
 machine, BTW ...
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 
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 Oriole Software
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Mass updates to production tables (NULL to non-NULL)

2002-11-25 Thread Jesse, Rich
I've got a real hot project (8.1.7.2 on HP/UX 11.0) that needs to have NULLs
converted to spaces on three different columns.  Each is a CHAR, so I
shouldn't need to worry about chaining, since that column's full size has
already been allocated in the block, right?  But the first column has 1.2M
NULLs out of 1.45M rows.

My first test was to just UPDATE mytable SET mycol = ' ' WHERE mycol IS
NULL, after removing the index on that column.  Seeing as there were many
more rows updated than I had anticipated, I was going to test the UPDATE
using a cursor, and committing at every 10K rows (~120 total commits) to
reduce rollback and locking issues.

Thoughts?  Since this table is used for time-and-attendance and directly
affects payroll, downtime isn't possible.

TIA!

Rich


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RE: Two bugs in 9202 (that bit us)

2002-11-25 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Two bugs in 9202 (that bit us)





For the intermedia you can request a one off patch for 9202 ... last I checked it wasn't part of 9203 yet ...


Raj
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Well that's hardly acceptable for a current release. Is there a BUG filed
for this to get the fix in 9.2.0.4 or a one-off patch?


Rich



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FYI, 
Oracle 9202 ... If you are using intermedia and have cursor_sharing to
anything other than EXACT, oracle will start throwing ORA-600 errors. You
can set it to EXACT (the only workaround) at session level if you want, but
I recommend to set it in init. This is fixed in 10i. 
Also we ran into a problem with ora-600 [kclchkinteg_15] (you have two
global cache buffers pointing to same data block buffer but in incompatible
mode) ... this is in 9202, a patch is out, we will test it today  tomorrow
and see how that works.
Then I ask myself ... isn't it fun to be on the cutting edge of the release?


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Re[2]:Anyone else had a Virus alert for Stephane Faroult's

2002-11-25 Thread dgoulet
BTW: I just got a message from Steve.  Seems tht he uses Linux  Netscraper for
mail so I doubt that it started from his end.  So, anybody got an idea who the
GD spammer on the list is???

Dick Goulet

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Yep,  love NAV.

At 10:51 AM 11/25/2002 -0800, you wrote:
YUP

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My Norton Antivirus reports that Stephane's  email re. How to pass
value from SQL*Plus to Unix scripts? contains the W32.Klez.H@mm virus
in an item called stars-bkgrd.

Anyone else had same alert ?

Martin



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Re: LONG's

2002-11-25 Thread Mark Richard
Mike,

You could look at the COPY command - provided you don't mind the table name
changing or living in a different schema.  I guess you could do a copy and
then an alter table ... rename command.

The syntax for the copy command is along the lines of:

copy from user/pass@sid to user/pass@sid create tablename as sql - ie:
select * from blah.

I believe create can also be changed to insert, append, etc.  You
might also want to check the LONG buffer size.  Unfortunately I'm working
off my memory though, so you might have to refer to the manual.  I think
it's under SQL*Plus - I have a feeling the command only works within
SQL*Plus.

Regards,
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2002-11-25 Thread Ehresmann, David
List,

Is there anyway to know absolutely that a table is not in an export file?
My import bought in 6 tables, but not the seventh ( I don't think it is in
the export). The import bought in the other 544 tables!   I have queried
under the schema name, after logging in as that user:

select table_name from user_tables
where table_name like '%BATCH_%';

all other tables are there like they should be, but not the 7th table.  This
is 8.1.7 to 8.1.7. When I imp I get IMP-00033 Warning table not found in
export file.  When I test my imp statement against one of the other tables
from the export file that I know are there under the schema owner I get:
IMP-00015 object already exists.  I can't convince this guy the table is
not there.  What else can I do?

David Ehresmann. 

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RE: BackupExec Oracle

2002-11-25 Thread Mandar A. Ghosalkar
Title: BackupExec & Oracle



oh one 
more thing i failed to mention, recovery is a real pain. it will restore files 
with a very scre*** up names. it removes all backslashes and makes one whole big 
filename. u then need to do some surgery on it. it is not as simple as ebu/rman. 
i think they r doing this purposely bcos they would like us to purchase 
netbackup instead of the cheaper scaled down product 
backupexec.


  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 
  11:12 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  BackupExec  Oracle
  Hello Everyone! 
  I found out on Friday that my backup strategy has 
  been NULL AND VOID out in Las Vegas. (Read: Nothing has been 
  written to tape lately. Thanks, Guys) I was also notified that 
  "effective immediately" Veritas BackupExec is the software we are using. 
  
  Any gotchas/experiences/comments from people who 
  have used Backup Exec and the associated Oracle utility? Do you trust 
  BackupExec to fire your rman backups, complete correct rman restores, 
  etc.? I have shied away from writing directly to tape in the past but 
  don't have the luxury of disk for rman backups anymore. 
  I'm on Windows 2000 sp2, Oracle version 
  8.1.7.2 
  Any comments are appreciated. Thanks 
  
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Monkey and Terrible Perl Coder. Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. 
  Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063 


RE: Mass updates to production tables (NULL to non-NULL)

2002-11-25 Thread Mirsky, Greg
What about creating a view with nvl(column_name,chr(32)) for the columns
involved?

Greg

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I've got a real hot project (8.1.7.2 on HP/UX 11.0) that needs to have NULLs
converted to spaces on three different columns.  Each is a CHAR, so I
shouldn't need to worry about chaining, since that column's full size has
already been allocated in the block, right?  But the first column has 1.2M
NULLs out of 1.45M rows.

My first test was to just UPDATE mytable SET mycol = ' ' WHERE mycol IS
NULL, after removing the index on that column.  Seeing as there were many
more rows updated than I had anticipated, I was going to test the UPDATE
using a cursor, and committing at every 10K rows (~120 total commits) to
reduce rollback and locking issues.

Thoughts?  Since this table is used for time-and-attendance and directly
affects payroll, downtime isn't possible.

TIA!

Rich


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RE: BackupExec Oracle

2002-11-25 Thread Mandar A. Ghosalkar
we use backupexec 8.6 and it does not lock oracle files on NT4 or win2k.

if u use the purge options and create a archivelog purge job and u hv some antivirus 
s/w like norton, then the access times get messed up and backupexec is not able to 
pick up files properly.

netbackup uses rman/ebu.  backupexec does not use rman/ebu. it has its own oracle 
agent which puts tablespaces in backup mode and takes them out.

pretty reliable and i hv tested out the recoveries. a scheduled windows 

u just need to make sure that admins keep enough tapes in the dlt's. the only problems 
i face is that the backup job is waiting for more tapes.

the only drawback is commandline and reporting aspect. in netbackup on unix i could 
use available_media script and find out how much is the tape used. i hv yet to figure 
this out in backupexec.

-Mandar

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 Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: BackupExec  Oracle
 
 
 If you're using BackupExec to backup the server's filesystems 
 as well as the
 Oracle DB, make sure it does NOT hit your database files 
 directly.  Some
 Winders admins don't understand that it'll lock the datafiles, redos,
 controlfiles, etc from the instance, causing all sorts of 
 icky recovery
 scenarios.
 
 At least a few years ago, it locked them under NT 4.0.  I 
 don't know if this
 behavior has changed (or is possible to change under NuTFutS) in newer
 versions.
 
 Good luck!  :)
 
 Rich
 
 
 Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, 
 Sussex, WI USA
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:12 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hello Everyone! 
 I found out on Friday that my backup strategy has been NULL 
 AND VOID out in
 Las Vegas.  (Read:  Nothing has been written to tape lately.  
 Thanks, Guys)
 I was also notified that effective immediately Veritas 
 BackupExec is the
 software we are using.  
 Any gotchas/experiences/comments from people who have used 
 Backup Exec and
 the associated Oracle utility?  Do you trust BackupExec to 
 fire your rman
 backups, complete correct rman restores, etc.?  I have shied away from
 writing directly to tape in the past but don't have the 
 luxury of disk for
 rman backups anymore.  
 I'm on Windows 2000 sp2, Oracle version 8.1.7.2 
 Any comments are appreciated.  Thanks 
 Lisa Koivu 
 Oracle Database Monkey and Terrible Perl Coder. 
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RE:

2002-11-25 Thread Kevin Lange
David;
  Try the parameter 
show=Y
on the import command.   This should show you whats in the export file.

example parm file:

FILE=('expdat.dmp')
LOG=('temp.log')
FULL=Y
SHOW=Y

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List,

Is there anyway to know absolutely that a table is not in an export file?
My import bought in 6 tables, but not the seventh ( I don't think it is in
the export). The import bought in the other 544 tables!   I have queried
under the schema name, after logging in as that user:

select table_name from user_tables
where table_name like '%BATCH_%';

all other tables are there like they should be, but not the 7th table.  This
is 8.1.7 to 8.1.7. When I imp I get IMP-00033 Warning table not found in
export file.  When I test my imp statement against one of the other tables
from the export file that I know are there under the schema owner I get:
IMP-00015 object already exists.  I can't convince this guy the table is
not there.  What else can I do?

David Ehresmann. 

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Re:

2002-11-25 Thread Arup Nanda
Do an imp show=y which simply shows the contents of the exp file without the
rows. This way you can confirm that the table is not there.
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 List,

 Is there anyway to know absolutely that a table is not in an export file?
 My import bought in 6 tables, but not the seventh ( I don't think it is in
 the export). The import bought in the other 544 tables!   I have queried
 under the schema name, after logging in as that user:

 select table_name from user_tables
 where table_name like '%BATCH_%';

 all other tables are there like they should be, but not the 7th table.
This
 is 8.1.7 to 8.1.7. When I imp I get IMP-00033 Warning table not found in
 export file.  When I test my imp statement against one of the other
tables
 from the export file that I know are there under the schema owner I get:
 IMP-00015 object already exists.  I can't convince this guy the table is
 not there.  What else can I do?

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RE:

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Lee

You obviously know how to check it.  Plain old egrep can parse the export
file for CREATE TABLE too.

It sounds like you might need to open up a commodity sized can of this stuff
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Slightly OT - Who would you take with you...

2002-11-25 Thread Freeman, Robert
Board - 

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knowledge, who would they be? Who are the top 10 Oracle Guru's on this news
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CD, but I have limited space, so I want to archive those people who are
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online, but I'm not always online and it's nice to be able to search these
emails for targeted content).

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Re:

2002-11-25 Thread John Thomas
David,

Import with indexfile=filename and show=y should help.

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ehresmann, 
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Is there anyway to know absolutely that a table is not in an export file?
My import bought in 6 tables, but not the seventh ( I don't think it is in
the export). The import bought in the other 544 tables!   I have queried
under the schema name, after logging in as that user:

select table_name from user_tables
where table_name like '%BATCH_%';

all other tables are there like they should be, but not the 7th table.  This
is 8.1.7 to 8.1.7. When I imp I get IMP-00033 Warning table not found in
export file.  When I test my imp statement against one of the other tables
from the export file that I know are there under the schema owner I get:
IMP-00015 object already exists.  I can't convince this guy the table is
not there.  What else can I do?

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RE: Mass updates to production tables (NULL to non-NULL)

2002-11-25 Thread Jesse, Rich
It's actually being done for some sort of performance, since NULLs are not
indexed.  Although now it's suspect, since there are so many NULLs...

Thx,
Rich


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 -Original Message-
 From: Mirsky, Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:45 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Mass updates to production tables (NULL to non-NULL)
 
 
 What about creating a view with nvl(column_name,chr(32)) for 
 the columns
 involved?
 
 Greg
 
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 Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:04 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I've got a real hot project (8.1.7.2 on HP/UX 11.0) that 
 needs to have NULLs
 converted to spaces on three different columns.  Each is a CHAR, so I
 shouldn't need to worry about chaining, since that column's 
 full size has
 already been allocated in the block, right?  But the first 
 column has 1.2M
 NULLs out of 1.45M rows.
 
 My first test was to just UPDATE mytable SET mycol = ' ' 
 WHERE mycol IS
 NULL, after removing the index on that column.  Seeing as 
 there were many
 more rows updated than I had anticipated, I was going to test 
 the UPDATE
 using a cursor, and committing at every 10K rows (~120 total 
 commits) to
 reduce rollback and locking issues.
 
 Thoughts?  Since this table is used for time-and-attendance 
 and directly
 affects payroll, downtime isn't possible.
 
 TIA!
 
 Rich
 
 
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important question about SID environment variable (NT)

2002-11-25 Thread john
for NT4.0 ver 8i 

does a typical oracle install create the environement variable SID
?


i just checked, via set command on windows NT. the env variable for
SID is not set. though there are other oracle related env variables
like path, classpath that point to various files of oracle install
etc 

so should i manually set the SID environment variable ??
if so how ? if set it manually  then it is good for that shell
only. what about programs like Database config assistant that are
lauched via the StartProgramsOraHome.   how would they read
this or such an enviroment variable that is set via the command
prompt. (env variable set via the command prompt with command like 
set variable1 = c:\ora\bin\. etc etc will only be vaild in that
shell which created it. how to make it across the whole OS ?

i am asking this because the Oracle DB Config Assistant requires
the SID environment variable to be set.

from where should i launch the GUI for oracle config assistant. if
to be launched from shell ie command prompt, then what is the name
of the executable for this GUI ?

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basic question about db_name and sid

2002-11-25 Thread john
the SID is a string that identifies where to find the database.
It is not necessarily the same as the database name.
(here is the url from where i read this 
http://datavision.sourceforge.net/DataVision/create.html)

first, is it true that sid need not be the same as the db name ?
because in a typical oracle install you are asked to write sid
and it actually becomes the db_name as well. right ?

secondly what does this mean sid is a string that identifies where
to find the database ?

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RE: Slightly OT - Who would you take with you...

2002-11-25 Thread Post, Ethan
Robert Freeman
Anjo Kolk
Cary Millsap
Connor McDonald
Kirti Deshpande
Jared Still
Jeramiah Wilton
John Kanagaraj
Waleed Khedr
Ian MacGregor
Rachel Carmichael
Tim Gorman

Well that is more than 10, there are plenty of others that should be on this
list.  I have these posters highlighted then sort by subject or name.  I can
be pretty sure if I see a lot of red names that I am getting into something
juicy and the other posters that are not mentioned will be right in there
also.  That way I can collect messages for a couple weeks and still get all
the good stuff in an hour or so.  Sorry if I got some lazy dba's mixed by in
here.

- Ethan

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Board - 

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biggest input and 
knowledge, who would they be? Who are the top 10 Oracle Guru's on this news
group?  I'm asking because my mailbox is FULL, and I have to trash a large
amount of the stored stuff thats here. I'm going to archive some of it to
CD, but I have limited space, so I want to archive those people who are
constantly offering the most insightful advice (I know it's available
online, but I'm not always online and it's nice to be able to search these
emails for targeted content).

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the lists and report back to the group the overall answers, but all email to
me will be treated as strictly confidential.


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Re: how do I calculate the Oracle's usage

2002-11-25 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
Even though the name of the statistic is CPU used by this session,
the v$sysstat view contains aggregated data of the statistics of all
sessions that have ever logged into your instance since it started.
For consistency, they use the same statistic names as are used by the
session-level statistics from v$sesstat, which is being aggregated in
v$sysstat.  The full list of statistics is in v$statname.  So if you
wanted your own statistics, you would have a query like this:

select value from v$session s, v$sesstat ss, v$statname sn where
s.audsid = userenv('sessionid') and s.sid = ss.sid and ss.statistic# =
sn.statistic# and sn.name = 'CPU used by this session';

To get the total for everyone ever logged in up to now, just query
v$sysstat.

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Gurelei wrote:

 Wouldn't this only give me the statistics for
 MY current session? I'm looking for the data on 
 all the running sessions.
 
 --- Jeremiah Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How about you collect the following value from each
  instance on the
  host, wait a few hours, then collect the numbers
  again?  You can then
  subtract the earlier values from the later values,
  and you'll have a
  good idea which instances are using more CPU
  relative to the others.
  
  SQL select value from v$sysstat where name = 'CPU
  used by this session';
  
  On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Gurelei wrote:
  
   I'm trying to figure out how much of the srever's
  resources
   (CPU-wise) a database and the application running
  against it is
   taking. There are several databases on that server
  and I'm only
   interested in one so vmstat won't really help that
  much. Besides
   just running ps -ef | grep INSTANCE is there any
  other way for me to
   get a feeling of the load that puts on the CPU my
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Re: Slightly OT - Who would you take with you...

2002-11-25 Thread Mark Richard
Robert,

I think your own emails would have to count as one of the Top 10
people...  Don't delete your sent folder!

I've only been on this list for a short period of time (although I wish I
had found it earlier) and I've noticed that there are several consistent
posters of answers.  I don't think it's fair to name ten people - different
people have different niche's.  If I wrote something about tuning it might
be valid, if I wrote something about backup/recovery then you might as well
trash it.

Having said that I tend to listen to Cary, Rachel, Tim, Kirti, Jared and
yourself especially closely.  But there are many others who frequently have
good input - that is what makes the list so powerful, you get the best bits
of everyone.

Regards,
 Mark.



   

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Re: LONG's

2002-11-25 Thread Jared . Still
Mike,

Conner pointed out that you could use C. 

You can also use Perl with DBI and DBD::Oracle if you like, and have
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Why not just convert them to CLOB and LOB?

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Re: Mass updates to production tables (NULL to non-NULL)

2002-11-25 Thread Jonathan Lewis

You may have to worry about chaining.

NULL columns use no space, even when
they are CHAR() types.

If you are planning a counted cursor loop, don't.
You can update by rowid ranges (the slightly
harder way) but one simple option is:

update tableX
set col_name = ' '
where col_name is null
and rownum = 1;

repeat until rows updated  10,000




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Date: 25 November 2002 21:37


I've got a real hot project (8.1.7.2 on HP/UX 11.0) that needs to
have NULLs
converted to spaces on three different columns.  Each is a CHAR, so I
shouldn't need to worry about chaining, since that column's full size
has
already been allocated in the block, right?  But the first column has
1.2M
NULLs out of 1.45M rows.

My first test was to just UPDATE mytable SET mycol = ' ' WHERE mycol
IS
NULL, after removing the index on that column.  Seeing as there were
many
more rows updated than I had anticipated, I was going to test the
UPDATE
using a cursor, and committing at every 10K rows (~120 total commits)
to
reduce rollback and locking issues.

Thoughts?  Since this table is used for time-and-attendance and
directly
affects payroll, downtime isn't possible.

TIA!

Rich


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RE:

2002-11-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Have the other guy do the following: 

If on UNIX,
 strings dump_file_name | grep 'CREATE TABLE'  table_names.lst 
else
 perform a dry imp run with indexfile= option. 

If the table existed then the generated file will have CREATE TABLE command (as a 
comment in the latter case).
 

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List,

Is there anyway to know absolutely that a table is not in an export file?
My import bought in 6 tables, but not the seventh ( I don't think it is in
the export). The import bought in the other 544 tables!   I have queried
under the schema name, after logging in as that user:

select table_name from user_tables
where table_name like '%BATCH_%';

all other tables are there like they should be, but not the 7th table.  This
is 8.1.7 to 8.1.7. When I imp I get IMP-00033 Warning table not found in
export file.  When I test my imp statement against one of the other tables
from the export file that I know are there under the schema owner I get:
IMP-00015 object already exists.  I can't convince this guy the table is
not there.  What else can I do?

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