Lisa,
A sweatshop?! Now that sounds a bit harsh. .; )
And just yesterday, both Larry and Jeff
complimented me on something nice
some developers said about me.
Last Friday they reorged a bit and now
Leo is Larry's boss. So basically Development
and our group is under the same umbrella.
Oops, I hate it when I do that. That was supposed to
go straight to Lisa. Everyone else can just scratch
their head and wonder.
Cherie
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Lisa,
What?!! Are you betting against getting fired or for being fired?
Cherie
Oh well. It's Friday and I have a bet going that I'll be fired by the end of
the day. If I do get fired today I win $500! Ha!
Have a great weekend everyone
Lisa
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Sent: Friday,
Dick,
In this case, it doesn't appear to be NLS or a network problem.
The developer has replied with the following:
When I ran this code, I got the Oracle -1458 problem:
EXEC SQL EXECUTE
BEGIN
EmployeePackage.GetNextDownloadEmployee;
:xversion:=
Lisa,
Yes. Don't keep us in suspense. Let us know
how the bet turned out.
Cherie
p.s. If you lose, that's $50 down the drain
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Psycharis,
Do you have the database defined in your tnsnames.ora file?
Can you connect via sql*net to this database shown behind
the @ symbol?
We get this error when we don't have our ORACLE_HOME
set properly. We have multiple versions of Oracle on
the same Unix box.
Cherie
Psycharis
Lisa,
We have just been upgrading the majority of
our applications that run on Oracle from 7.3.4 to 8.1.5.
Some of the apps do not run on 8.1.5 or are not certified.
Our solution has been to leave some apps where they
are on 7.3.4, have some at 8.0.4 and some at 8.1.5.
In other words, we have
Sean,
This reply sounds different from the others
but I thought I would throw it out for comparison.
I am a full-time employee at a smallish
company. When I was hired, part of the
job description was to be on-call. We went
over the specifics in some detail before I
signed on for the job.
My sys admin found the following document
on a Sun Bulletin Board. It is by far the most
comprehensive writeup I've seen on the topic.
File this one away. It'll come in helpful sometime.
Enjoy,
Cherie Machler
Gelco Information Network
INFODOC ID: 2270
SYNOPSIS: Understanding semaphores,
Rachael,
I looked at the requirements for this tool on their web site.
I am a bit confused. Will the server run on 8.1.5 or does
it require 8.1.7? Perhaps you know off the top of your head.
Thanks,
Cherie Machler
Gelco Information Network
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John,
Yes, you can use hostnames in your tnsnames.ora file instead of IP addresses.
We are doing so with Oracle 7.3.4 on Sun Solaris 2.6.
As long as your DNS is resolving the host names to the IP addresses correctly,
you should have no problem.
Cherie Machler
Gelco Information Network
One of our developers is wondering why they can't
see all of their check constraint options when they
query from DBA_CONSTRAINTS, USER_CONSTRAINTS,
ALL_CONSTRAINTS. The Search Condition column only
shows about 60 characters, no matter what you set your
output string to in SQL*Plus.
How can we
I have a 7.3.4 Oracle database (called CASE) on my Sun Solaris 2.6
operating system that contains my Des/2000 R2.1 repository.
I'd like to migrate the 7.3.4 CASE database to 8.1.5. My question is
this: Can the Designer/2000 R2.1 repository be hosted in an 8.1.5
database? If yes, do I have to
Is the output file larger than 1 Gig?
Do you have an upper limit on your
file sizes?
Cherie
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Jared,
I guess that now you have to start screening your mail
for the word vac*tion in other languages as well. ; )
Cherie Machler
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I am migrating a 7.3.4 database to 8.1.5 on Sun Solaris 2.6.
This database holds the repository for Des/2000.
We do not want to upgrade Des/2000. I basically just want
to migrate the underlying database. Can I do this?
I've read through all of the documentation for Des/2000 but
it all
I have an error on an 8.1.5 export/import.
Metalink shows a reference to bug 909635.
When I search the bug database putting the
bug number 909635 in the bug number field
and pressing search, the search engine
replies that there were no hits.
How can this be? If a bug is identified in
the
We have some 8.0.4 databases running on Sun Solaris.
I believe that 8.0.4 has been desupported as of December 31, 2000.
We are unable to upgrade one of our apps at this time that is
running on an 8.0.4 database.
Is the terminal release of 8.0.x still supported? If yes, what is
that terminal
I just migrated my database that supports Des/2000 version 2.1 from
7.3.4 to 8.1.5. I did not upgrade Designer and don't plan to at this
time.
Due to lack of any specific documentation anywhere on how to migrate
this database, I simply created a brand new database of the same
name on a
Dick/Lee/Joe,
I'm not trying to defend him but unless I have not yet recieved
a post in my mail, Xing never said he had an OCP. Plus, Lee,
I think you may need to define "silver bullet". It probably doesn't
translate for people who don't use English as a second language.
Cherie Machler
Lisa,
No we did not. It's still there. It's a ridiculous design
but it was there when I got here and it's not going
away anytime soon.
Cherie Machler
Gelco Information Network
"Koivu, Lisa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/29/2001 06:58:20 PM
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Pallav,
There is very explicit documentation for upgrading from 8.0.x to 8.1.x in
the Migration Guide of the 8.1.7 server documentation set. You can
see that documentation at technet.oracle.com. You need to be a
registered user to login to that site but it's free to become registered
and it
Jack,
Thanks for your helpful reply. Looks like my index is not function-based.
Darn! Now I don't know why I'm getting this error and Metalink won't let
me in to update my TAR.
Cherie
Connie,
Yes it is. As a matter of fact it is part of a documented upgrade method
outline in the Server Migration Guide.
Cherie Machler
Gelco Information Network
We're trying to determine which partitioned tables
are good candidates for reorganization due to
fragmentation.
Anybody got any good scripts that would detect
various kinds of fragmentation. Perhaps someone
could point me in the direction of some on various
web sites?
Thanks in advance for
We have a 120 Gig datawarehouse that uses
more than 100 date-based partitions. For financial
and political reasons, we have run out of disk space
to give this database as it continues in it's relentless
growth.
The developers have resigned themselves to purge
out some of the old data and get
Anyone have any problems dropping partitions that hold data?
We are debating the risk involved in dropping populated partitions
as opposed to purging the data out of them first and then dropping
them (a lot of work).
Theoretically, this should work o.k. but has anybody actually had
problems
Jun,
Thanks for your reply. We are considering truncating the
partitions first. Our main issue is recoverability. Not so
much if we can't recover a partition that we want to get rid
of but rather if we accidentally truncate a partition that we
want to keep. Just trying to cover all our
Stephane,
Thanks for your reply. We are considering truncating the
partitions first. Our main issue is recoverability. Not so
much if we can't recover a partition that we want to get rid
of but rather if we accidentally truncate a partition that we
want to keep. Just trying to cover all
I've looked through the on-line documentation on dropping partitions
but I have not seen the following question specifically addressed:
How does dropping a date-range partition affect the rest of the
table/partitions? I read that if I drop a partition with a global
partitioned index that the
Gregory,
However, if I have a locally partitioned index,
the impact on indexes should be minimized.
I believe that I should only have to rebuild the
index on the next highest partition. The remainder
of the local index partitions should be unaffected.
Am I correct in my understanding of the
Gilberto,
We got very similar errors when upgrading from 8.0.4 to 8.1.5 and then to
8.1.7.
In both cases, we opened a TAR with Oracle and they asked us to turn off
the
star_transformation_enabled init.ora parameter as a workaround. We did and
it made our errors go away. However, this is not
Stephane,
Thanks for your reply.
Cherie
paquette stephane
This one's got me stumped. We are on 8.0.4 on Sun Solaris 2.6.
I have some locally indexed partitions on a table that's
partitioned by time. I dropped the '96 and '95 partitions
of the underlying table and I no longer see them. I used
the following statements:
alter table xx truncate
Oracle will automatically create an index for your primary
key constraint.
I have a lot of large partitioned tables in my data warehouse.
All of my primary key indexes are non-partitioned. I would
like them to be partitioned.
When I drop the constraint and re-enable it, can I specify
at that
Ron,
Thanks for your kind reply.
I'll give it a try.
Cherie
Ron Rogers
For what it's worth, we use 128k, 4m, and 128m. Those numbers were taken
from the paper How to Stop Defragmenting and Start Living. Can't
remember the author but I'm sure someone will chime in as it's a well-known
paper.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network
Connor,
What version of Oracle was this coded for?
Thanks,
Cherie
Connor
Last I saw, version 9.0.1.x is scheduled to be desupported in June of '03.
I haven't seen any desupport date for Rev2 of 9i which is 9.2.0.1.
We've upgraded from 9.0.1 to 9.2.0 in order to avoid any issues with
desupport before we even get our product to market which we've been
developing on 9i.
Gene,
What patchsets are currently available for 9iR2 (9.2.0.1)? I'm not aware
that any are available. Does anyone know when the next patchset is
expected to be released for 9.2.0.1?
Thanks,
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network
One of our developers wants to create a reusable report where the
pipe-delimited output generated by SQL*Plus would be sent off and used as
input into another process. The problem is the remarks field which is of
type long. It causes ORA-00997 errors. If I take the pipe-delimits off,
the
Thanks to those who recommended the relatively new set colsep command. It
did work in this report.
Thanks again,
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network
I have a request from one of our developers to create two new sequences on
the DUAL table.
This seems like a bad idea to me. I've never had such a request in the
past. I asked for clarification on why this is needed and I didn't get a
lot of details yet.
Is this something that is standard
Dan,
Haven't heard the why yet but I think it may be just a poorly worded
request. I suspect he wants the sequences created on another table and
just wants to be able to select from dual. Maybe he never realized that
the sequences were actually created on another table.Maybe he actually
Kevin,
Thanks for the suggestion on select statements. I will pass them on. I
think it's just a misunderstanding on his part as to where the sequences
are actually created. Apparently he only uses them in a select from dual
so he thinks they reside there.
Cherie
Mladen,
Thanks for everyone's response on this.
I think that this is just a misperception on the part of the developer. I
took the phrase verbatim from his change request. I suspect that he has
only ever used sequences in the SELECT from DUAL statement so he thinks
that they are actual
Dennis,
The sales critter could give better pricing for Leccotech's SQL*Expert.
For a SWAG I believe it's less than a $1000 per seat and I believe that is
sold with a per-database component to the pricing.
I think there are also discounts when you buy more copies.
It was well worth what we
Is port 1575 the standard port number for any particular Oracle product?
Thanks,
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
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Barbara,
I can't speak for dbms_utility but dbms_stats is supposed to generate
statistics at both the partition level and at the table level for
partitioned tables, which analyze does not do. These are supposed to be
better quality statistics. Be aware that there are bugs related to
With the end-goal of doing a character set conversion from US7ASCII to
UTF8, I have run csminst.sql to create work tables and then run the CSSCAN
utility from rdbms/admin on my test database.
We have written a C program to identify and alter exceptional characters
identified by the CSSCAN
Scott,
You can only use the alter database command to move from one character set
that is a strict superset of your current character set. You can find
lists of superset relationships on Metalink. Search on something like
character set conversion and superset or UTF8 and WE8ISO8859P1.
You
Baraboo is in a fairly rural area more than an hour from Madison or from
Milwaukee. Neither of those cities are a vast metropolis.
Not everyone is keen to live in the country. Plus I would imagine that a
DBA job in this part of the country wouldn't pay a massive salary.
However, the cost of
The utility is called csscan for character set scan. It runs at the unix
prompt with additional parameters (some optional and some not) much as
export or import would. Before you use it the first time, you need to run
csminst.sql from $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin to set up the work tables, etc.
I've been hunting around OTN and can't remember where to find this.
I'd like to see a list of all outstanding bugs that are present in version
8.1.7.2 of EE. Is there one convenient place to find these or am I going
to have to compile a list from multiple other versions.
Thanks,
Cherie
Is there anyway to download the readme file without downloading the whole
product set for 8.1.7.3?
Thanks,
Cherie
Jesse, Rich
Cary,
Thanks for this meaty example and especially for the analysis afterwards.
Real-life examples like this are so much more revealing and insightful than
any amount of theoretical discussion.
We could learn so much if once a month someone would post the statistics
and output from their
Jack,
What version are you on? Are you able to utilize the gather_stale option.
That way you would not only be optimizing the amount you are estimating but
the interval between analyzing.
Of course, that option of DBMS_STATS is not available on older versions.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Jack,
Isn't the problem with this concept that it doesn't take into consideration
how skewed the data is? Statistically significance would be relevant to
perfectly distributed data but wouldn't you need a higher percentage of
data for significance in more highly skewed data?
Just something
Tim,
I'm curious why you say that utlbstat/utlestat should be run from svrmgrl
and not sqlplus.
I've not heard/read that before.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network
Mike,
We did create another RMAN catalog on a small alternate host.
We back up our main catalog. Yes, it is redundant but if you're
going to go to all the work of getting RMAN working, you might as
well go the extra distance and do this so you're covered.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco
I have had some really good experiences with using histograms.
They didn't always produce the improvements that I expected
but in many cases, I saw 10 times, 100 times, or even 1,000 faster
execution times after adding histograms.
I don't have the specifics, but these were cases where the data
Larry,
Thanks for taking the time to write this lengthy reply. I've never seen
this particular information on histograms anywhere.
This has been very informative.
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network
Danny,
Many RMAN errors will show a hit when searching Metalink. I found the
following related document on Metalink when I searched with the RMAN-10031
error:
fact: Oracle Enterprise Edtion 8.1.7
fact: Recovery Manager (RMAN)
symptom: Unable to register a database
Jack,
Thanks for these great hints. I have not seen lots of these before and
they have given me lots of ideas.
Here's a question that you've induced: How do you determine what a good
value is for INITRANS?
What are the downsides of setting it too high?
Thanks,
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Lee,
I've been doing a lot of work with reorging partitioned tables and
splitting them.
I'm on Oracle version 8.0.4 and 2.6 of Sun Solaris.
I don't believe that you need to unload your data. You should be able to
create your new tablespaces to the correct size. I believe you plan on
We are preparing to do an upgrade of our Data Warehouse on Sun Solaris from
version 8.0.4.0.0 to 8.1.7.2.
We've done a number of upgrades in the past but this is the first time we
are going from 8.0.4 to 8.1.7.
Following is the basic, high level plan:
1. Upgrade from 8.0.4 to 8.1.7.0 (Oracle
Columbus, Ohio is not a real big market.I'm not sure what market rates
are there but I would assume that they are not top of the line.
Cherie Machler
With in-laws that live in Columbus
I have just upgraded my 8.0.4 database to 8.1.7.2.
Previously, parallel query would only run on objects that a DEGREE set 1.
I just checked and all of my tables and indexes have DEGREE set to 1.
So are most of my queries now running in parallel? I just checked my
init.ora file and I haven't
Tim,
Thanks for replying on a weekend.
After doing some reading, I discovered that parallel_threads_per_cpu is set
to the default of 2 on our database. With 8 CPUs, we are seeing 16
parallel threads on these queries, when they do go to parallel (a few of
them do not). I experimented with
Dennis,
We have set particular indexes to nologging when building them. These are
indexes that we drop every night for our warehouse load.
It is a hassle because whenever we clone this database to our QA box, those
nologged indexes get corrupt and we have to rebuild them. Takes us three
We just upgraded our data warehouse from version 8.0.4 to version 8.1.7.2
of Oracle. We run on Sun Solaris 2.6 vith Veritas Quick I/O.
We do an analyze compute nightly with a 10% estimate of our large, main
fact table. Before the upgrade, the analyze ran for 45 minutes. Since
the upgrade,
Paula,
Yes, it is a partitioned table.
I am planning on switching over to analyzing it in parallel but first the
application owners want to know WHY it's taking twice as long to analyze
since the upgrade to 8.1.7.2. What is different about ANALYZE that would
cause it to run so much longer.
John,
Thanks for this advice. I will try to get this data tonight on the updated
version.
We do not have the old version around anymore to try this out.
Cherie
Jack,
Thanks for this insight. I'll check this out.
We did not change our sort_area_size. However, I suspect there have been
changes in the default method that Oracle is using sort_area_size.
Perhaps I need to increase sort_area_size? I have a test database I can
try it out on and see.
Igor,
In the 9.2 upgrade manual, there should be a section in the front about
preparing to upgrade and selecting your upgrade path.There should be a
table that shows which versions you can upgrade from.Does that table
list 8.1.5 as a supported version to migrate directly to 9.2?
Cherie
What version of Oracle and operating system/type are you using.Is this
the Clarify help desk application?
If it is Clarify, you can contact their support and open a case with them.
They have some additional indexes, etc. that they recommend that helped us
quite a bit with our Clarify
We have a couple of new applications in development that are moving to QA.
These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun Solaris 2.6. We've
been pretty happy with this version to this point but are at a pivotal spot
in our product development cycle where we have a narrow window in which
Dick,
Thanks for your comments. So, the bottom line is that you are
recommending moving from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?
Cherie
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Does anyone have the bug number on this security bug?
Thanks,
Cherie Machler
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Connor
Jack,
Were your old statistics generated with the ANALYZE command? If yes, were
you able to export ALL of the old statistics with the export option of
DBMS_STATS before you actually analyzed with DBMS_STATS for the first time?
If yes, after exporting them, did you delete the old statistics
We have a third-party application that needs to use the SNMP agent
associated with OEM. They want to be able to get to it via a particular
port.
We have a port assigned to each database, based on which Oracle version it
is running. However, as far as I know, there is not a particular port
I used the following syntax/package to run a trace on a user's already
running
session.
EXECUTE dbms_system.set_sql_trace_in_session(8,12,TRUE);
I then ran tkprof on the resulting trace file. It all worked fairly well
but
I didn't get any times on any of the statements that executed.
Is
I have been struggling with a SQL statement that is generated by a
help desk application called Clarify. The code is all canned so I
can't change it (well maybe the view if that's the only way). So far
I have been tuning this application by adding indexes, histograms,
etc. However, I've hit
Jonathan,
Version is 8.0.4. I looked at the parameters for dbms_system in the 8.0.4
documentation
and saw nothing pertaining to timed_statistics.
I did an alter system over lunch and set timed statistics for the entire
database without
bouncing the database. That did the trick.
Thanks for
Stephane,
This sounds very clever. However, it's too much work for me today as I
have so
irons in the fire.
I'll keep it in mind for the future, though.
Thanks for taking time to reply.
Cherie
Thanks to Adrian Roe, Jon Walthour, and Rodd Holman for their helpful
replies.
The text that Jon provided worked perfectly. Scored big points with my
users.
Thanks for taking the time to help me out,
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network
Igor,
Thanks for your reply. I decided to just turn it on for the whole database
for a few minutes
over lunch.
Cherie
Igor Neyman
Alex,
I had achieved a full index scan before and was disappointed with
the test results because it was showing a full scan on the index.
However, after I got your email, I turned on timed_statistics and
had the user do a real test for me on the test database and the
actual times where
John,
Who is the vendor for EZSQL? Do you have a web site for them?
Thanks,
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network
John Lewis
Joe,
Having worked with Lisa for a short time, I can attest to the fact that she
does bear somewhat of a resemblence to Laura Croft.
However, don't look for her starring in an action movie any time soon.
After all, she is gimping around : )
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information
I am running tkprof and explain plan on the following SQL statement:
SELECT DISTINCT CNFR_NO,
SPLT_PAY_TYPE, ACH_AMT
FROM whse_dbo.ACH_TRAN
WHERE ACCT_NO = '46807' AND
TRUNC(TRAN_DT) = TRUNC(TO_DATE('20-JUL-01','DD-MON-YY')) AND
STATUS = '2' AND
CNFR_NO 0 AND
Don,
By uniform extents, do you mean all extents in the same tablespace being
the same size? Or do you mean having
a choice of say three different sizes in on tablespace but sticking to
those sizes? That seems to be the crux of
the disagreement amongst our team.
Thanks for your
Lisa,
I have a copy of the paper you refer to and have read it a couple of times.
We've gone over this issue many times in our team but our other two DBAs
remain unconvinced. Perhaps I need to actually give them a copy of
the paper.
As I said, the crux of the issue is whether we should only
I would let Bruce speak for himself but I have to assume that it would be a
lot
of work and hassle to set up a subscription and then deny access to those
who
have not paid.
Is that true, Bruce.
If so, perhaps we should all just voluntarily send in some money.
$25 would be a drop in the bucket
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I had been using the FAST_FULL_SCAN_ENABLED initialization parameter in an
8.0.4 database.
Apparently this parameter is now obsolete in 8.1.7.2. Seems as though I
am getting the fast full index
scans automatically now. I'm not sure if I want them in all cases. Is
there a way to turn them
I am confused by the output from tkprof below. An fast full index
scan is being performed. However, from the statistics, it looks as
thought 649 physical disk reads are being performed. Is that actually
the case? Are physical disk reads being done?
Thanks,
Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
I wanted to turn it off in testing so I could try some other indexes as an
alternative. I'm not sure that I trust it to make a good decision.
Even with an alternative index hint, it's not using the index I'm trying to
get it to use, but rather the fast full index scan. I can't see any typo
Ian,
The last one I looked at it was cached, I guess. I could purposely cache
the
table (and index) if it was small, though.
I'm confused though. Isn't the whole benefit of the fast, full index scan
that you
don't have to go against the table, thereby avoiding those physical reads?
Or, in
Ian,
I'll look at compressing the index. Does that only work on unique indexes
or can you
do it on non-unique multi-column indexes as well?
Thanks,
Cherie
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