I am afraid we have seen too many 'flavour-of-the-month' fads already. I
fear that Larry is about as clueless as I am about the immediate future
of IT and Oracle's 'strategy' has more or less been a succession of more
or less well inspired tactical moves. I have known Oracle when
distribution of
We had a small discussion yesterday about Oracle moving to Linux (possibly),
so my SA asks ... Is there any OS vendor left in the market that Uncle L
hasn't pissed off yet? Sun was dumped in favor of HP, they already pissed
off IBM because of DB/2, not dumping HP they move to Linux. So I told him
it's not just Oracle, this tends to be a trend in all businesses. Just
as there are fads in clothing (shorter hemlines, longer hemlines etc),
there seem to be fads in the right way to manage your computer
systems.
I've seen the cycle turn a number of times centralize all software and
systems,
Jonathan,
I remember reading an article in Oracle Magazine about a year to year a
half ago, where Uncle Larry was prostelatizing us to create one large database
vs. having lots of small ones. So the screw turns once more!! Also I remember
Oracle being torqued at RedHat some time ago find
In a previous life in the 1980s, an IBM salesman has told me a funny
story about an IBM marketing guy who was a specialist of strategy
speeches, future of IT, etc. The salesman took a customer to a
presentation once, and was very impressed by the speech in which the
marketing man was
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Subject:Re[2]: Linux taking over at Oracle
Jonathan,
I remember reading an article in Oracle Magazine about a year to year
a
half ago, where Uncle Larry was prostelatizing us to create one large
database
vs. having lots
Uurrgghh !!!
prostelatizing - could you not have said preaching. Alphabetti Spaghetti
for lunch ???
:-)
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Jonathan,
I remember reading an article in Oracle Magazine about a year to year
a
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Jonathan,
I remember reading an article in Oracle Magazine about a year to year a
half
I think Larry lives in his own dream world. We're currently using Oracle on
inexpensive Linux servers, but that probably won't last for long.
Our Oracle licenses cost over $65,000 per server. The servers cost about
$30,000 each, and the OS is essentially free. Makes no sense at all. If
Oracle
Hi All,
I don't think anything here indicates that we are going back to hundreds
of smaller databases. I does indicate that he is pushing the Real
Application Clusters on thes smaller boxes so that they can continue to
support large databases.
John
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Jonathan,
I think eventually MS will come out a kitchen sink (called .MSKitchenSink)
in .NET software, but every time you run the garbage disposal, everyone in
the world will know about it. Some people shouldn't be allowed to innovate
... by law.
Raj
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On a contrarian note with all the Larry hype aside... Linux is much more
that just a fad. In a relatively short time it has already put a very
significant dent in MS server software sales and I'm sure it's going to
affect Sun/HP regardless of Oracle's IT infrastructure strategies.
Linux/Intel
Steve,
As one of the GREAT MicroSlop bashers, I pray you are more than correct.
May the Penguin rule!!
BTW: I've experimented with Oracle 8 8i on Linux, RedHat's variant, I'll
agree it is stable, easy to use, and very supportable. The problem is the cost
of Oracle on a Linux box.
I think that the LVM announcement in the link below is the lynchpin for
getting Linux Enterprise-wide (man, I hate buzzwords!):
http://www.veritas.com/news/press/PressReleaseDetail.jhtml?NewsId=9483
Now if I could only get Oracle on Linux for Alpha, I'd be set!
Rich Jesse
I've seen the cycle turn a number of times centralize all
software and
systems, one data center to serve them all, standards cross-company
then suddenly it's decentralize, one big center makes no sense, we
don't get the things we need fast enough from them
I always think that thinking in
I thought it also put a dent in HP/UX Solaris sales...easier to migrate
UNIX to Linux. I believe Amazon is a good example. For the record, I have
no love for MS.
Congrats on your ReplayTV, it will blow your mind once you fully grasp it's
usefulness. I love my TiVo, and I can't live without
become an all-MySQL shop
As we are here now. Aaagh! We are planning to buy PeopleSoft and my boss
has practically decided on his own that we should buy SQL Server. And if
not for the fact that our other applications here couldn't run on SQL Server
Oracle would have been history here. I hate
There are rumors that Red Hat is buying Microsoft?
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Steve,
As one of the GREAT MicroSlop bashers, I pray you are more than correct.
May the Penguin rule!!
BTW: I've
For a different perspective step into Larry's shoes for a minute, (O...
that's scary!)... Hmmm... the less they have to spend on servers the more
money left over to spend on me, er, my products...
Oracle will get away with their pricing as long as the competition isn't so
stiff that they
It's not a rumor, it's true...MS is letting themselves become aquired by Red
Hat, they figure that all the lawsuits will have to be dropped, and there
going to put the Windows GUI onto RH Linux. A killer combo.
A brillant move by Bill Gates.
Not selling my Oracle stock... yet.
now is the time to buy! it's cheap!
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
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For a different perspective step into Larry's shoes for a minute,
now is the time to buy! it's cheap!
True. But it's not going to get any higher either (my own prediction) :)
George
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Not selling my Oracle stock... yet.
now is the time to buy!
Erm, what drugs are you taking and do you have any left over for me?
usatoday.com doesn't use SSL and that link without SSL isn't on their
site...
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
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I think you can figure just from the text that this was a hoax. red hat acquiring microsoft? now that would take some serious capitalization.
Jon Baker
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Title: Linux taking over at Oracle
For anyone who missed it:
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Ellison says Oracle's 'whole business' to run on Linux
The Oracle chairman and CEO said the company will replace three Unix servers
that run the bulk of its business applications with a cluster
Interesting information especially about the HP boxes not being
replaced. Could it be that the HP/Compaq merger go ahead is not the move
that Larry desired? After all the RAC is an Oracle and Compaq wedding.
Looks like the honeymoon is over and the new young kid won for a while.
Maybe now it
Interesting news. Makes me wonder though. Remember when
Oracle moved to support client-server computing? Now Larry
derides client-server and distributed computing saying
that it's cheaper to have just one big system. How many
times have you heard Larry talk about how Oracle's
consolidated their
Ah!! But 5 years down the road, Larry's Oracle database may not need any
administration at all. You may just buy the pre-fabricated OraLintel
gadget from him that runs your apps... :-))
Seriously, he me getting in position to fight the IBM Linux Mainframe
running DB2(IBM announced the Linux MF
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