Re: installing oracle 8i on Solaris 9

2003-02-19 Thread Les Ayudo
I'm stuck in the mount section of the tutorial. I'm only trying to setup one DB and I don't get how I should setup a mount point for the software and one for each db file using /pm pattern. P is the string constant and m is the fixed length key to distinguish between mount points. - Original

Re: Know 1 database, know them all?

2003-02-19 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Well, I already started on the SQL Server paper on the R=S+W thing, but I needed help from guys that knew far more than I, and I didn't get it. Here's the idea: The formula can be used on statement, session and system level. So that's 3 x 3 grid where at least the R column and the S column

Re: Cardinality Hint?

2003-02-19 Thread Jonathan Lewis
/*+ cardinality(t,N) */ where t is a table alias and N is a number instructs the optimizer to use N as the computed cardinality of table t without going to the trouble of checking. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk Coming soon one-day tutorials: Cost Based Optimisation

RE: installing oracle 8i on Solaris 9

2003-02-19 Thread Jack van Zanen
Hi Just give the mount points names you are happy with The examples you normally see use U01,U02. It basically means that your software should be installed on different mount point/disk than your db files. -Original Message- Sent: woensdag 19 februari 2003 8:49 To: Multiple

RAID 5 impact on sys Utilization

2003-02-19 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA
Will sys Component of CPU Utilization be Higher on a RAID 5 Volume Versus a RAID 1+0/0+1 Volume on a Database Server ? Under peak Hybrid Loads the CPU Utilization's sys component is 50 % usr component is 50 % . Our Hybrid Application DATABASE is setup on a Hitachi Storage Box configured such

RMAN ready or not!

2003-02-19 Thread Grant Allen
OK, after reading many of the posts on RMAN (Robert Freeman's book is now on the shopping list), I took the plunge and spent all day yesterday hacking away with it. Fun, fun, fun (well, as fun as backups could be). Couple of questions - tablespace backups. If I have a tablespace backup, how

RE: Null Event in v$session_wait

2003-02-19 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
Null event is the bane of ORACLE 9.X. It pops up uner any circumstance that you really really need to know what a session is waiting on. Also, if you select your own wait event, it is always Null event. Result is about 15 bugs filed with Oracle by us alone. They promise it will get better in

Checking when a table was last updated.

2003-02-19 Thread Clinton Naude
Hi. What sytax can I used to see when a table or object was last updated/modified? Thanks Clint Confidentiality Warning===The contents of this message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee's use and may be legally privileged and/or confidential.

RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread Robson, Peter
I wonder if I can throw in a further caveat to the choices people would make? If you had to choose a programming language in which to write a program orapplication in which you wished to conceal your intellectual property, which would you use? peter edinburgh -Original

RE: DBMS_JOB : Can submit but does not execute

2003-02-19 Thread Ramon E. Estevez
You have to give commit after submit the job. -Original Message- Ling Catherine (CSC) Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Gurus, I have submitted a job but it does not execute. Why? Does the owner require any privileges ? However, I can

RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread Jack van Zanen
AFAIK NOT shell scripts NOT batchscript anything else probably works for you Jack -Original Message-From: Robson, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: woensdag 19 februari 2003 12:34To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Programming languages that make

Re: DBMS_JOB : Can submit but does not execute

2003-02-19 Thread Michal Zaschke
Have you set the job_queue_processes parameter in you init.ora file? CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC) wrote: Hi Gurus, I have submitted a job but it does not execute. Why? Does the owner require any privileges ? However, I can use DBMS_JOB.CHANGE command to execute immediately. I would like the

RE: DBMS_JOB : Can submit but does not execute

2003-02-19 Thread Rajesh Dayal
You have to run the job after you submit it. SQL exec dbms_job.run(24); Also make sure all init.ora parameters are set eg (job_queue_interval , job_queue_processes ) HTH, Rajesh -Original Message- Ling Catherine (CSC) Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of

RE: DBMS_JOB : Can submit but does not execute

2003-02-19 Thread Jay Hostetter
Make sure job_queue_processes 0. Also check job_queue_interval. Jay Hostetter Oracle DBA D. E. Communications Ephrata, PA USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/18/03 08:28PM Hi Gurus, I use the following command to execute immediately. Connected. SQL BEGIN 2 DBMS_JOB.RUN(1); 3 END; 4 /

DSS tools?

2003-02-19 Thread Tim Gorman
A customer of mine has recently decided to purchase BRIO but the process of checking references on the producthas been(ahem!)pretty discouraging. Specifically, they have gathered the following comments: 1. There are no aggregate functions available on the BRIO client. For example,

Re:

2003-02-19 Thread JApplewhite
Ken, Do all the following as a way to minimize MTTR (Mean Time To Recovery) for a variety of scenarios and, by the way, they happen to use a lot of disk: ;-) 1. Mirror your online and archived redo logs to multiple drives 2. Put backup copies of drive A' datafiles on drive B (or C) and vice

RE: DSS tools?

2003-02-19 Thread Odland, Brad
Sounds like BRIO requires on a significant effort on the server side to prepare data in the database first(hmmm just every other DSS tool out there) All DSS tools require a thoughtful server side approach.Some of the best DSS toolsare people who can build good data structures, PL/SQL

RE: DBMS_JOB : Can submit but does not execute

2003-02-19 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: DBMS_JOB : Can submit but does not execute Also as a practice, I always submit sysdate + 5 seconds instead of sysdate. Raj - Rajendra dot Jamadagni at espn dot com Any views expressed here are strictly personal. QOTD:

Automatic Segment Space Management

2003-02-19 Thread Jay Hostetter
I'm continuing to introduce myself to 9i. I've been reading about Automatic Segment Space Management, and I just wondered if anybody had any positive/negative experiences with it. I got some good info at: http://www.dbazine.com/burleson11.html Thank you, Jay Hostetter Oracle DBA D. E.

RE:

2003-02-19 Thread Spears, Brian
Create a massive tempspace :) Brian -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, I was wondering how DBAs are coping with these new large disks that are availableyou can purchase 36gb, 72gb, etc. You can fit a whole

Is there a way to have ops$account privs to shutdown/startup database

2003-02-19 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All, Oracle 8.1.7.4 WinNT Is there a way to have ops$account privs to shutdown/startup database? Oracle does not allow granting sysoper to external accounts. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network

RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread Stephen Lee
Klingon. -Original Message- If you had to choose a programming language in which to write a program or application in which you wished to conceal your intellectual property, which would you use? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Lee

Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails Good morning everyone, Windows 2000 sp3, ver 8.1.7.2 I have NO IDEA what is going on here. I can't start any of the services associated with Oracle, not with my logon, not with local admin, not with a local account with appropriate

Re: Cardinality Hint?

2003-02-19 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Jonathan, Could you provide more information on this hint ? I couldn't find it in the 9i Performance Tuning Guide and Reference, although there is the DYNAMIC_SAMPLING hint. Hemant At 12:28 AM 19-02-03 -0800, you wrote: /*+ cardinality(t,N) */ where t is a table alias and N is a number

RE: DBMS_JOB : Can submit but does not execute

2003-02-19 Thread Jesse, Rich
That shouldn't matter. Look at DBA_JOBS when you startup an instance after it's been down for a while (not that it would ever happen!). All pending jobs (nextdate = SYSDATE) should be firing, at least as many job_queue_processes as you have in the init.ora. Rich Rich Jesse

GRRRRR OWS

2003-02-19 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: GR OWS Are these people at Oracle Support always this stupid??! I'm having an argument with an analyst regarding the permissions to the listener.log (which is set to full control) but keeps blowing errors!!! G Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield

RE: RMAN ready or not!

2003-02-19 Thread Spears, Brian
I would say not doable as such but what I would do would be extract the whole database onto a test server...then perform the transportable tablespace magic. The Transportable tablespace handles the dictionary information. Now if someone comes back and says its possible and it is.. I will fall off

Re: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread Ray Stell
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:08:53AM -0800, Stephen Lee wrote: Klingon. so you can speak to the sysadmins... -Original Message- If you had to choose a programming language in which to write a program or application in which you wished to conceal your intellectual property,

OEM query replacement

2003-02-19 Thread Jesse, Rich
Hey all, Since we've added a datafile, our Tablespace Full event in OEM has been hammering the DB. Waits go high on Controlfile I/O when the following is running (no doubt from the v$datafile scan): select sum(f.bytes)/:SYS_B_0, floor(sum(f.bytes)/:SYS_B_1) from sys.dba_free_space f,

RE: Lgwr , CKPT - Some Misc. Puzzlers ?

2003-02-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Vivek Since I don't see where anyone has responded to your questions, I will make a try and maybe my feeble answers will provoke the more knowledgeable on this list to come to your assistance: 1. This varies slightly by Oracle version. For Oracle9i, the LGWR writes out the redo log from the redo

RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread Gogala, Mladen
The same way as you do perl: external library -Original Message- From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier Cool! How'd you

RE: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Bob Metelsky
Title: Message Can you start the service via oradim? CMD oradim C:\oradim -STARTUP -SID -USRPWD -STARTTYPE srvc,inst -PFILE C:\your_path\ can you start the db via svrmgrl? CMDset oracle_sid=mysid svrmgrl connect internal/* startup pfile=. have you tried rebooting

Re: Checking when a table was last updated.

2003-02-19 Thread Igor Neyman
- Original Message - From: Clinton Naude To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:53 AM Subject: Checking when a table was last updated. Hi. What sytax can I used to see when a table or object was last

Re: RMAN ready or not!

2003-02-19 Thread Ruth Gramolini
You can so a tablespace point-in-time recovery to a clone and export the data and import it into the origina database. I think this is what you're asking. Ruth - Original Message - From: Grant Allen To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday,

RE:

2003-02-19 Thread Nelson, Allan
Actually, those disks are only marginally larger in the one statistic that counts. The number of I/O's per second is the driving performance statistic for production databases. I usually point out to them that if all you had was a 4 cylinder engine for your vehicle then buying dump trucks just

RE: Automatic Segment Space Management

2003-02-19 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: RE: Automatic Segment Space Management In a very isolated test scenario with RAC; it removed a tremendous amount of free list contention(as well as header block..). In addition, we removed latch contention for a couple of specific latches as well.. But keep in mind; this was a very

RE:

2003-02-19 Thread Wayne Straughn
I'm curious as to how others with smaller databases deal with it as well.. You can't even buy under 18GB hard disks for some brands of servers anymore.. My production databases are all relatively small i.e. 5 GB - 7 GB, but yet I'd still want several independent physical disks to spread

Re: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Day
Try looking in the Event Viewer. For Win 2K that's under START - SETTINGS - CONTROL PANEL - ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS. Hopefully it will tell you something.

Re: installing oracle 8i on Solaris 9

2003-02-19 Thread Les Ayudo
how exactly would I assign the the mount points? I mean I don't which directories to actually mount where... ?sorry if this is a dumb ? THnaks. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:48 AM Hi Just give

Re: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails Lisa, Just a thought - did you try starting the listener from the command line - lsnrctl start? Arup - Original Message - From: Koivu, Lisa To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:08

Re: installing oracle 8i on Solaris 9

2003-02-19 Thread Les Ayudo
Do I create the mount points after I install Oracle or before? I'm not this stupid in windows, trust me... ;) - Original Message - To: Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:44 AM I did: /DB/O92iBase/O92iHome - for my Oracle binaries /DB/O92iBase/db92i -

RE: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Khushalani, Vikram
Title: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails Lisa, Just re-read your note and realized that you are not able tostart anyOracle service. Is the server a Pentium IV (just a thought)? Is this a new install? Or did it juststart happening?Does a re-boot of the server make any difference?

Re: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread JApplewhite
Lisa, What error do you get when you try lsnrctl start from the command line? Have you tried oradim from the command line to start the DB service? Jack C. Applewhite Database Administrator Austin Independent School District Austin, Texas 512.414.9715 (wk) 512.935.5929 (pager)

RE: Lgwr , CKPT - Some Misc. Puzzlers ?

2003-02-19 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Lgwr , CKPT - Some Misc. Puzzlers ? This piece is also the same in the older versions... for sure 8 and 8i too... - 5. New in 9i, when 1M is reached, which means if the buffer is large, the 1/3 mark will never be reached. - Nick -Original Message- From: DENNIS

RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread DEEDSD
Frighteningly enough, Damian Conway has produced some wonderfully hideous Perl modules that allows you to write your code in Klingon. It even does it in object-oriented style (method overloading in Klingon - ack!).

RE:

2003-02-19 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
I have a different way of justifying it. It seems that everyone still assumes the one application = one database mentality. I have chosen to implement a different strategy. Multiple applications = one database. I see no reason to use the file server approach anymore. The issues with downtime,

-newbie...install oracle 8i 32bit or 64 bit on solaris? Does it matter?

2003-02-19 Thread Les Ayudo
Does it matter which version of Oracle 8i I install on solaris 9? 32bit or 64bit?

RE:

2003-02-19 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: ever thought of NAS or SAN devices? -Original Message- From: Wayne Straughn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: I'm curious as to how others with smaller databases deal with it

Lengthy Table and/or column names

2003-02-19 Thread Webber Valerie H
Title: Lengthy Table and/or column names Are there any issues to consider when naming tables and/or columns (length of column name)? I know the max length is 30 but some of the table names that my client wants to add (against my recommendation) look like Cobol and are pushing 30 characters.

lsnrctl status

2003-02-19 Thread Scott Stefick
Hello all, HPUX 11.11 Oracle 8174, 9201 and 9iAS 90201 I have all three versions in their own homes and I have a login script that asks what I want the environment to be set as upon login (ORACLE_HOME, ORACLE_SID, etc) but I always set TNS_ADMIN=/u01/app/oracle/product/9201/network/admin for

Re: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Ray Stell
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:08:54AM -0800, Koivu, Lisa wrote: -- tell the sysadmin to look in the event log for system, apps, and security. Probably some hints in there. === Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC

Re: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Rick_Cale
Lisa, Pick your favorite sid on that server ex. lisa delete the password file associated with sid lisa. It will be in your oracle_home\database directory. At the command prompt delete that instance. This will not delete the database oradim -delete -sid lisa Recreate service using oradim -new

RE: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Jesse, Rich
Lisa, Have you checked the .log files in %ORACLE_HOME%/network/log ? From my experience, I get this error every time there's an Oracle config problem with the service, instead of a Windows config problem. HTH! GL! Rich Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator [EMAIL

RE: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread April Wells
Title: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails lsnrctl80 start might need to prefix it with the listener name, too... April Wells Oracle DBA Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds -- Albert Einstein -Original Message-From: Arup Nanda

RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Live long and prosper! -Original Message- From: Stephen Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier Klingon. -Original Message-

RE: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Grant Allen
Lisa, I'd suggest checking the application log in Windows event viewer - usually contains something even if the on-screen response suggests no error returned. You should see things like Audit trail: ACTION : 'SHUTDOWN' DATABASE USER: '/' PRIVILEGE : SYSDBA CLIENT USER: SYSTEM CLIENT TERMINAL:

Re: RMOUG Training Days 2003

2003-02-19 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Dan, I am looking for an inexpensive hotel for Training Days. What should it be near? What is the address of the Convention Center? Thanks, Ruth - Original Message - From: Fink, Dan To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:14

Re: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom
what happens if try starting the listener from the command line. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/19/03 9:08:53 AM Service startup on Windows 2000 fails Good morning everyone, Windows 2000 sp3, ver 8.1.7.2 I have NO IDEA what is going on here. I can't start any of the services associated with Oracle, not

RE: Question about log files

2003-02-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ramon - I believe you are correct. OMF files are automatically deleted when the file is dropped in Oracle. OMF log files are treated just like the other OMF files. Try it and let us know. But try your test database. :-0 Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Check to make sure Oracle is not using NT PDC authentication. Maybe you do not have a PDC in the network and Oracle would not start becauise of this. -- Lyndon Tiu -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Lyndon Tiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City

Re: lsnrctl status

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Day
You need to change your ORACLE_HOME for the 8.1.7.4 environment. Look for the ORACLE_HOME_SELECTOR. Mine is under ORACLE_INSTALLED_PRODUCTS.

RE: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Bob Metelsky
Title: Message Lisa Sorry, I misread your message, I had theimpression the db would notstart... not that the listener would not start. Is it possible you/someone installed oracle that was not an administrator, at the time of install. Sounds like a permissions problem. possible solution

RE: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails Hi Wayne, Thanks so much for responding. I guess my lack of knowledge of Windows 2000 administration has just bit me in the ass. A description of a paintbrush-style change applied to our servers by the network support people in another

RE: installing oracle 8i on Solaris 9

2003-02-19 Thread Nelson, Allan
Best to do your mount points first, and then mount the partitions on those mount points that you expect to use. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Do I create the mount points after I install Oracle or before? I'm not

Re: Automatic Segment Space Management

2003-02-19 Thread Arup Nanda
Jay, I have been using ASSM for last five months in our Datawarehouse environment. Haven't had a chance to play with the OLTP side, yet. Inserts are way faster as compared to system managed extent allocation. I read Don's article on DBAZINE. However, I would like to add one caveat here: ASSM

RE:

2003-02-19 Thread Henry Poras
Stephen, Out of curiosity, how do you deal with application testing (or for that matter compatibility) when upgrading the Oracle version? Henry -Original Message- Stephen Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have a different way of

RE: Automatic Segment Space Management

2003-02-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jay - My impression from the Oracle9i New Features class is that it is most useful when you are doing intense inserts into a table. Based on that, I said to myself that I should remember this when I need to tune heavy inserts. Nothing past that. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch,

RE: GRRRRR OWS

2003-02-19 Thread April Wells
Title: GR OWS Yes, yes they are. you having listener problems too? Mine is looking for host=insert unprintable characters here trade ya! April Wells Oracle DBA Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds -- Albert Einstein -Original

RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread DEEDSD
Shell - I have used Unix Shell Programming revised Edition by Kochan and Wood extensively. It's really all I use for shell programming problems. It's well-written and not a dry read. Perl - most everyone I can think of will point you to the O'Reilly library of Perl books, starting with Learning

Re: installing oracle 8i on Solaris 9

2003-02-19 Thread Les Ayudo
COOL Thanks. I'll get to this right nowTHANKS!! - Original Message - To: Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:11 AM Hmmm, It took me about two months of reading and trying before I got this right. I do not have my play db with me at the

RE: GRRRRR OWS

2003-02-19 Thread Nelson, Allan
Title: Message Yes, in general since they moved most support to India, you get analysts that are more interested in playing the blame game than solving problems. Sigh, I miss the Aussies. I sometimes used to wait to submit a TAR until they were on shift just because I got better. faster

Re: Perl for Oracle DBA

2003-02-19 Thread Lucky Sharma
Hi Charlie Can u pls. send me the publisher name or any more details about this book, as I am new Oracle DBA field. I am very thankful to u for this co-operation. Thanks Lucky - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14,

Re: installing oracle 8i on Solaris 9

2003-02-19 Thread Andrea LaBass
If this is for you to play with, it doesn't really matter. Put it all on /u01. But if this is a db for practical use (dev/test/prod), follow the best practices and keep them separated. ie: /u01 binaries, log files, etc... /u02/oradata/SID/ /u03/oradata/SID/ /u04/oradata/SID/ and so on... The

Re: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Ray Stell
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:14:13AM -0800, Thomas Day wrote: Try looking in the Event Viewer. For Win 2K that's under START - SETTINGS When you are forced into using a toy operating system (read: unix bigot) like this you need to have tools that show you what the toy is doing to you. Kind

RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread david davis
I think it would be more appropriate to say. Today is a good day to die! From: Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:59:12

RE: GRRRRR OWS

2003-02-19 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: Message I had a meeting once with the VP in charge of support for the south when I worked for my last job in Texas. We had been having major support problems with Oracle and were tired of paying such high prices for crap. One of the things he told me was that you can always tell

Re: Question about log files

2003-02-19 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: Message From the Fine Manuals Theoperating systemfiles are deleted too, when an Oracle Managed logfile grup or member is dropped. HTH. Arup Nanda - Original Message - From: Ramon E. Estevez To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Automatic Segment Space Management

2003-02-19 Thread Andrea LaBass
See Jonathan Lewis' paper on ASS Management: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/bustbits.html HTH, A~ Jay Hostetter wrote: I'm continuing to introduce myself to 9i. I've been reading about Automatic Segment Space Management, and I just wondered if anybody had any positive/negative experiences

RE: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Lyndon, I wish I knew what caused the problem. And I have no idea how the monkey that broke it solved the problem. I think it had something to do with removing folder shares, but I'm not sure. I am so busy whipping out volumes of pl/sql code that I can't stop to understand why. I have to

Re: Inserts are taking time !

2003-02-19 Thread Anjo Kolk
No, just give it a little test. Anjo. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:58 AM At 02:03 AM 9/4/2002, Anjo Kolk wrote: Yep and you have given the answer yourself. It is the number of indexes. I think

RE: Question about log files

2003-02-19 Thread Ramon E. Estevez
Title: Message Tks Arup -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Arup NandaSent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:19 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Question about log files From the Fine Manuals

RE: Question about buffer cache

2003-02-19 Thread Baylis, John
Title: RE: Question about buffer cache I have indexes in a 16k page size tablespace. I have the following init.ora parameters: db_block_size=4096 db_cache_size=600M db_keep_cache_size=200M db_16k_cache_size=200M If I alter an index to put it in the keep pool, how does Oracle hande the

Re: OEM query replacement

2003-02-19 Thread Arup Nanda
Rich, Was your sys schema accidentally analyzed? It may pay to drop stats on all the sys objects using BOTH (1) analyze and (2) dbms_stats HTH Arup - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:03 AM Hey all,

RE: Automatic Segment Space Management

2003-02-19 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
In a very limited tests that I performed with ASSM (quite some time ago), I found that it tends to use a bit more space than non-ASSM. Something to keep in mind when FTS is used to access tables. Not sure if this changed in 9.2.0.2.x. - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday,

Veritas Agent for Oracle / incremental backups vs. hot backups

2003-02-19 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
My manager asked me to assess how much smaller our backups would be if we were doing incremental backups of our database files, instead of the usual hot backups. We are running 8i on UNIX. I know that the answer is it depends and you can't really know 'till you try, but we are just looking for a

RE: Perl for Oracle DBA

2003-02-19 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Perl for Oracle DBAs By Andy Duncan, Jared Still Publisher : O'Reilly Pub Date : August 2002 ISBN : 0-596-00210-6 Pages : 620 Their next book will be .NET for an Oracle DBA, so called bigfoot book -Original Message- From: Lucky Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

RE: lsnrctl status

2003-02-19 Thread Gogala, Mladen
You forgot to export new ORACLE_HOME. -Original Message- From: Scott Stefick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: lsnrctl status Hello all, HPUX 11.11 Oracle 8174, 9201 and 9iAS 90201 I

RE: Service startup on Windows 2000 fails

2003-02-19 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Please tell us what caused the problem and how you solved it. -- Lyndon Tiu Quoting Koivu, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Wayne, Thanks so much for responding. I guess my lack of knowledge of Windows 2000 administration has just bit me in the ass. A description of a paintbrush-style

RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

2003-02-19 Thread Cary Millsap
Great list, but don't forget Tom Christiansen et al.'s Perl Cookbook. One of the best books written about anything, in my opinion. If someone's already a ksh or C programmer, then I think the beginning Perl library should include Wall's Programming Perl and the Perl Cookbook. To connect to

RE: Automatic Segment Space Management

2003-02-19 Thread John Kanagaraj
Arup, Just picking up the thread on the BBWs. (Btw, I asked this question in this list - never got an answer!) The following undocumented parameter limits the numbe of CR copies in the Block buffers. Name Value

RE: GRRRRR OWS

2003-02-19 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Title: Message Some of the staff know what they are doing. Once in a while you will fall on one that is still learning... ? Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services | Services technologiques

RE: Veritas Agent for Oracle / incremental backups vs. hot

2003-02-19 Thread Nelson, Allan
Actually assuming you checkpoint or commit at least once between backups it would not make any difference at all. An incremental backup catches changed files since the last backup which will typically be all your data files. SCN's get updated in all headers if any thing changes. Allan

Re: Veritas Agent for Oracle / incremental backups vs. hot

2003-02-19 Thread Darrell Landrum
Patrice, Another list participant may verify or nullify this, but I think that both will take the same space/time. In either case, it should be backing up the entire datafile. Doing incremental backups with RMAN stands a good chance of saving you space/time as it can back up only changed

RE: lsnrctl status

2003-02-19 Thread Scott Stefick
The ORACLE_HOME is being exported. Here is the contents of the script that I call to set the 8174 environment upon login: /* ORACLE_BASE=/u01/app/oracle ORACLE_HOME=/u01/app/oracle/product/817 ORACLE_SID=FPRD LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib TNS_ADMIN=/u01/app/oracle/product/9201/network/admin

RE: GRRRRR OWS

2003-02-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
repeat after me I want to speak to the duty manager. Keep repeating until they GIVE you to the duty manager. It still works. or, easier, make friends with someone in Support who actually has a clue or two... then have them check on your Tars. This also works but you need a large slush fund for

yapp_pack.zip

2003-02-19 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: yapp_pack.zip List, I've recently run this EXTREMELY useful set of scripts from miracle A/S to chart various info from my statspack snapshots. They work without modification on 8.1.7 but not on 9.2. I was just wondering (before I attempt to modify myself) if anyone had updated these

Are you using Resource Manager in 9.2? URGENT

2003-02-19 Thread Cherie_Machler
We are just ramping up a version 9.2 OLTP database on Sun Solaris 2.6. We didn't see any issues with a small number of users but we are seeing a lot of resource manager waits with a large number of external clients. We are wondering if perhaps we should turn Resource Manager off. It defaults

RAC 9i - renamin files

2003-02-19 Thread Vladimir Barac
How do you rename files in RAC databases? When dealing with single instance db 1. shutdown 2. startup mount 3. copy file to new location using OS util. 4. alter database rename file... 5 startup. But now we have gsdctl, srvctl... So, what is the procedure ti rename file? We are using Tru64, so

RE: GRRRRR OWS

2003-02-19 Thread Nelson, Allan
Title: Message Perhaps my luck has been poor. In truth, I find most of what I need on Metalink, requiring ITARS infrequently. Also given that we pay for this I am not entirely patient with the less informed among them. -Original Message-From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Veritas Agent for Oracle / incremental backups vs. hot

2003-02-19 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Allan, I disagree. From what I remember, rman incremental backups are also block-level, hence the savings in tape/disk and time. The tradeoff is at restore time. Unless you are talking about a Veritas utility? There's no other way I know of in Oracle to execute an incremental backup

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