Re: [Origami] ADMIN - list mail delivery problems (possibly just for Yahoo users)

2014-04-14 Thread Rob Hudson
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Anne LaVin anne.la...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 4/13/14, Anne LaVin anne.la...@gmail.com wrote:
  Not certain why (fallout from the Heartbleed bug? something else?) but
  the last two O-list messages, which were both from Yahoo users, caused
  a tremendous number of bounces when the server tried to deliver them.


Just to add on to this - Anne has been very patient with an issue I had
with my Yahoo account getting hacked, resulting in my address book (with
the O-list email address) being stolen. Also, my account sent Spam to
everyone on that list, including the O-List.

Even after I canceled the Yahoo account, the O-List continued to receive
mail from that Yahoo address. Except closer inspection showed that though
the email appeared to come from the Yahoo account, it was actually being
forged (faked) and coming from somewhere else.

The bottom line was - a Yahoo account I closed looked like it was spamming
the O-List, but the mail was being faked.

Yahoo has had a few security breaches, so your account may be unknowingly
sending out mail, or appearing to do so when yo've closed it or changed
your password.  Best advice is to cancel that account.

Anne can share with you how she handled the messages from the account and
flagged them as Spam. That might be helpful for your friends who receive
messages that look like yours.

Is this the swan song for email lists?


[Origami] ADMIN - list mail delivery problems (possibly just for Yahoo users)

2014-04-13 Thread Anne LaVin
Not certain why (fallout from the Heartbleed bug? something else?) but
the last two O-list messages, which were both from Yahoo users, caused
a tremendous number of bounces when the server tried to deliver them.

Everyone should check their spam folders for list mail, and please
mark anything mis-filed there as not spam! If you thought there were
no messages yesterday, well, you missed a few.

I'm hoping this will settle out shortly... in the meantime, Yahoo
users, be aware that people may not see your messages, and everyone
else, watch your spam folder.

Anne


Re: [Origami] ADMIN - list mail delivery problems (possibly just for Yahoo users)

2014-04-13 Thread Anne LaVin
On 4/13/14, Anne LaVin anne.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not certain why (fallout from the Heartbleed bug? something else?) but
 the last two O-list messages, which were both from Yahoo users, caused
 a tremendous number of bounces when the server tried to deliver them.

Thanks to some feedback from our technically-minded fellow list
members (thanks, folks! I'm traveling at the moment, and haven't had
time to research this) who'd already heard about this issue, we now
know what's going on, here.

The technical details are probably not of interest to the whole list,
but the bottom line is that Yahoo recently made a change to their
email security settings which is causing not just problems with our
little list but basically ANY mailing list with Yahoo members who send
messages to the list.

I don't know if they're going to rescind this change, but in the
meantime, Yahoo members, please: do not post to the O-list.  If you
do, your message will fail to get delivered to almost all major ISPs,
and make lots of extra work for your list admins.

Anyone who wants to change to a sensible ISP, let me know, and we'll
immediately de-moderate your account at your new ISP as an incentive.

Thanks, and sorry for the difficulties!  Do consider going and folding
something instead of sending email.  (Though we'd love to hear about
it, if you're not sending from a yahoo.com address...)

Anne