Re: orion-list 4Q282i Crucifixion Fragment
Actually I slightly misunderstood Ed Cook's point concerning the interlinear waw error possibility (of BT*W*LTW, with *W* being the interlinear insertion). Cook was not saying the interlinear waw itself was to be disregarded, but that the scribe meant to write Qal (BTLWTW), wrote BTLTW by mistake in rapid writing, noticed the defective T- ending, intended to correct it with an interlinear waw, and by mistake wrote the suspended waw one letter too early. On this assumption the form is Qal, and the scribe's intention was to correct to a routine Qal form (but the scribe got the interlinear correction one letter out of place). I see your point now Ed! I hadn't thought of that, and that is interesting. Analysis: since piel is not a problem as to form (per the reasons of my last post) that removes that as an issue. But the defective T- ending for the infinitive construct is less common. I noted (from Abegg 1998: 351) wlr(ts)t at 1QS 8.3 instead of expected wlr(ts)wt. Also, pHab 9.10 has l'nwtw with the first waw interlinear, exactly the kind of correction Cook suggests was intended in the present case at 4Q282i (except that in 4Q282i the scribe would have misplaced the correction by one space). It is far more common to have the TW- ending than defective T- for infinitive construct (either qal or piel). By my piel explanation, BTWLTW of 4Q282i simply is one more of the relatively few cases in which this occurs in Qumran texts (as at 1QS 8.3). But by Cook's suggestion the scribe's intent with the correction would give a routine and expected qal form with expected TW- spelling. (But the scribe misplaced the interlinear waw in making the correction.) This IS interesting. Are there other cases of misplaced interlinear waw corrections? I do not know of any offhand and do not have DJD volumes or Tov articles at hand to check (and because I had not thought of this possibility, did not check for comparative examples on this point). If this phenomenon happens elsewhere, particularly with any frequency, that would be persuasive to me. However, if no other cases can be cited in Qumran texts of misplaced waw corrections, then that would weigh against it happening uniquely in this case, to me. Does anyone else have thoughts or data on this? Apart from reconstructing the details of this particular word, the subject of errors and error correction phenomena in the Qumran texts is fascinating to me. Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Greg Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list crosses and virgins
Two temporary remarks: 1. It seems to me that according to Dr. Doudna's own reading, 'virgin' has a possible context if the second word in l. 3, which he reads 'bh[m', is simply 'bh'. 2. If we ought to look for the context for a virgin in this tiny fragment, I don't quite see the context for crucifixion (th-l-h is basically, though not exclusively, 'hang'). respectfully, E. Habas For private reply, e-mail to habas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
Re: orion-list deut 32:15
Thank you so much--- LXX, Sam and the paraphrase in Neh 9:25 all show wysb' This is significant and the comment of the Rabbis in Sifre Deut to Deut 32:5 seems to cite it as well. Herb Dear Prof. Basser: According to the most complete Index available (Corrado Martone, The Judaean Desert Bible: An Index [Quaderni di Henoch 11; Torino: Silvio Zamorani Editore,2001]) the only occurence of Deut 32:15 is in one of the 4QPhylacteries, 4QPhyl N. It is edited in DJD 6, 73, and according to Milik, it contains at the beginning the plus of Sam and LXX: y]'k[l y]`pwb wysb`... Greetings Florentino Garcia Martinez For private reply, e-mail to Herb Basser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Re: orion V2001 #79
To the ORION panel. Can anyone tell me whether the recent works theories on New and Absolute Chronology (Journal of Ancient Chronology numbers 1 through 6; J. J. Bimson, D. Rohl etc.) will affect the official Qumran archeological findings and scrolls dating as given in Vermes and García Martínez. Also I am interested in possible connection between Mycenean and Israel connection fromaround 1000 BCE. I find peot in Mycenean people are too hashidim to be independent. Reynaldo Martínez __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com For private reply, e-mail to Reinaldo Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Deut 32:15
Obviously that should have been Deut 32, not Deut 2. So much for my proofreading.. Can anyone tell me if Deut 32:15 was found at Qumran and if so how it reads. Herb Basser It occurs in 4Qphyl(n), a phylactery fragment with two portions of Deut 2. My notes indicate that its text mainly follows the LXX, but I don't have specifics. For the details see DJD 6 p. 73-74. Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur This time, like all times, is a very good one if we but know what to do with it. -Emerson --- End of forwarded message ---Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur This time, like all times, is a very good one if we but know what to do with it. -Emerson For private reply, e-mail to Dave Washburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Re: Sefer Daniel
Can anyone recommend a text that make a scholarly study of the DSS mss that show similarity to the book of Daniel? Shalom uvrakha! Frantz _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com For private reply, e-mail to Sefarad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
