Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-06-12 Thread zias
, 2002 4:11 AM Subject: Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho? Dear Joe, Perhaps you're right that I'm over reacting regarding Roehrer-Ertl. I don't think I am regarding Steckoll. As a former museum curator denying public access to researchers in unheard of. (This is the story

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-06-10 Thread zias
, June 08, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho? Dear Joe, You wrote: My attempt to define the site of Qumran, Ain el-Ghuweir and posssibly Zissu's site in Jerusalem as Essene is based mainly on demographics, i.e. the lack of women with the exception of one

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-06-10 Thread Ian Hutchesson
Dear Joe, Perhaps you're right that I'm over reacting regarding Roehrer-Ertl. I don't think I am regarding Steckoll. As a former museum curator denying public access to researchers in unheard of. (This is the story of the scrolls until the early 90s.) As for Steckoll having a permit to

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-06-09 Thread zias
ignorance, halacha is one area in which I have decided not to stray, and know little, if anything about. Joe Joe Zias Science and Archaeology @ The Hebrew University Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:54 AM Subject: Re: orion-list

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-06-09 Thread RGmyrken
Dear Joe Zias, Thanks for your comments. I agree that Golb's idea of Qumran as fortress with military cemetery is dead, but I don't think Hirschfeld's analysis of the site of Qumran can be easily dismissed (although his proposal of Essenes above En Gedi appears incorrect). The

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-06-09 Thread RGmyrken
Dear Joe Zias, Not to be a bother, but I recently reread your article The Cemeteries of Qumran and Celibacy in DSD 7, and I had some follow-up queries. First, if I understand the diagram in Figure 1 from Humbert and Chabon, and read de Vaux correctly, the graves in the southern cemetery

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-06-08 Thread Ian Hutchesson
Dear Joe, You wrote: My attempt to define the site of Qumran, Ain el-Ghuweir and posssibly Zissu's site in Jerusalem as Essene is based mainly on demographics, i.e. the lack of women with the exception of one at Qumran and the lack of young children at all of the three sites. This is your

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-06-07 Thread RGmyrken
Dear Joe Zias, First, I think your observations on the apparent bedouin burials in the auxiliary cemetery (if I may call it that) is one of the more important recent contributions to Qumran archaeology, alongside Hirschfeld's identification of the remains as a fortified manor house based

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-06-01 Thread zangenberg
Dear Russell, The cemetery at Qumran belongs to a type of burial ground that is well established in the Eastern Mediterranean. In recent years, graves of the type found at Qumran have been discovered at several sites in (el-Ghuweir, Safafa and more) AND outside Judea (I only mention Khirbet

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-05-31 Thread RGmyrken
Dear Jürgen Zangenberg and Joe Zias, Thank you for your replies. I admire both of your contributions to the field and hoped you would respond. Joe, I will reread your article from DSD. On the relationship between Qumran and Ain el-Ghuweir, as I recall a recent article in IEJ on

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-05-30 Thread zangenberg
Dear Russell, You raised an interesting question! Dame Kenyon indeed excavated several shaft tombs on Tell es-Sultan (see Chrystal Bennett's report in Kenyon, Jericho II, London 1965, 516-546). Only the third subtype described by Bennett (p. 516) seems to be directly comparable to the ones

Re: orion-list Essene cemetery at Jericho?

2002-05-30 Thread zias
Dear Russell Regarding your query as to whether the Roman period graves found in Jericho show affinities to those at Qumran, the scant archaeological evidence, which I pointed out in my article (The Cemeteries of Qumran and Celibacy: Confusion Laid to Rest? (Dead Sea Discoveries Vol.7 no. 2)