Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-18 Thread Paul Melis
Art Tevs wrote: Hi folks, I've setted up a Rule-page http://forum.openscenegraph.org/rules.php describing the etiquette of forum/mailing list use. I have Hmmm, the rules page seems unaccessible (just like the rest of the forum): *Warning*: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-18 Thread Art Tevs
Hi, corrected. There was some database error, I had to restart it. Check it out. Cheers, art -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=8673#8673 ___ osg-users mailing list

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-18 Thread Art Tevs
Hi Robert, I've registered for you, you should recieve an activation mail. Please change the password as soon as you activated your account. If you would like to have different name, then let me know, I change it. As soon as you have activated this, I will give you admin/moderator rights, so

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-18 Thread Paul Melis
OT: why are all the posts in this thread coming from the forum not threading correctly? It seems the mails don't have an in-reply-to header. Was this always the case for posts coming from the forum? Regards, Paul Art Tevs wrote: Hi Robert, I've registered for you, you should recieve an

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-18 Thread Art Tevs
Hi Paul, hmm, yes it seems there are no In-Reply-To header tag, when a message is sent through the forum. But I has never recieved any threading issue with the message, since my mail client is able to thread them by the subject. You are first who raised this issue ;), maybe your mail client

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-18 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Art, On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Art Tevs osgfo...@tevs.eu wrote: Ok, this is doable. I am currently working on this. However in order to do so, you, Robert, has also to be registered on the forum. I will then give you according permissions, so that you are able to see those users and

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-18 Thread Paul Speed
And I am using threading by subject and so they all end up in the same thread... but they are out of context within that thread since Thunderbird doesn't know which specific post to drop them off of. A little annoying but at least it's a clear indicator that it is a forum post... and

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-17 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Sukender, I'd prefer not to go in heavy handed, but find a system that right at the begining sets the right tone for future communication. I wonder if providing a better introductory text to forum and mailing about etiquette and good examples of user names, and have all new subscribers need

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-17 Thread Art Tevs
Hi Robert, all. I think adding another approval system to let users approve that they have to follow some kind of etiquette wouldn't have big success. Users would just click on Yes, I agree as soon as they see that button. Hence, I am not sure if this is needed at all. However checking the

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-17 Thread Art Tevs
Hi folks, ok, I took a look into email header standards and it seems there exists a solution for our purpose. I could specify in the from header users realname and users real email adress. Although the email will still be sent from osgfo...@tevs.eu, using the Sender: tag in the header.

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-17 Thread Paul Melis
Art Tevs wrote: Hi Robert, all. I think adding another approval system to let users approve that they have to follow some kind of etiquette wouldn't have big success. Users would just click on Yes, I agree as soon as they see that button. Hence, I am not sure if this is needed at all.

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-17 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Art, On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Art Tevs osgfo...@tevs.eu wrote: I think adding another approval system to let users approve that they have to follow some kind of etiquette wouldn't have big success. Users would just click on Yes, I agree as soon as they see that button. Hence, I

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-17 Thread Art Tevs
Hi Robert, all I wasn't thinking of this, rather I just meant for a group of maintainers, like yourself and I and others regular contributors to act as the approval system.  We'd recieve a post saying that someone has asked to be subscribed and when approve/disapprove/or make approval

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-17 Thread Art Tevs
Hi folks, I've setted up a Rule-page http://forum.openscenegraph.org/rules.php describing the etiquette of forum/mailing list use. I have also setted up anything which is needed to disable users with non-valid realnames. Users could now be deactivated, so that they can not post anything, but

[osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi All, With the advent of forum.openscenegraph.org developed ably by Art Tevs we have a great new avenue for users to choice whether they prefer forum or mailing list for support... which is great but... for mailing list users the posts from forum members have become rather impersonal, with all

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Melis
Robert Osfield wrote: With the advent of forum.openscenegraph.org http://forum.openscenegraph.org developed ably by Art Tevs we have a great new avenue for users to choice whether they prefer forum or mailing list for support... which is great but... for mailing list users the posts from

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Roland Smeenk
You mean forum posts like this??? -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=8539#8539 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Roland Smeenk
I bet Art can come up with a forum adjustment to automatically add the username, real name and possibly the forum e-mail. kind regards, Roland Smeenk --- Forum member: rosme (Roland Smeenk) -- Read this topic online here:

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Art Tevs
Hi Robert, Paul. Ok, let me first answer Roberts questions and then coming to Paul's. @Robert: Yes, I was also afraid if forum becames more wide used, so that the community might became more anonymized then by using mailing list. I noticed same behaviour on any forum. Users are just very lazy

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Art Tevs
Hi Roland, yes I can do some adjustments, however the current setup is the most one can take out of the current situtation, I think. Users are forced to write a real name. Email is sent as: From: Real Name osgfo...@tevs.eu or if user do change its profile, then it can also be From: Real Name

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Roland Smeenk
Would it be an idea if mail2forum generates an HTML e-mail similar to a forum response? -- Roland -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=8543#8543 attachment: forum.png___ osg-users mailing

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Robert Osfield
2009/3/16 Roland Smeenk osgfo...@tevs.eu You mean forum posts like this??? We'll at least you have a name that others can get an idea of who you are... Most forum users don't to seem to have any human readable user name at all, and don't both to sign their names. Email/forum messages really

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Art Tevs
rosme wrote: Would it be an idea if mail2forum generates an HTML e-mail similar to a forum response? -- Roland It wouldn't be a big problem, however I am not sure if people, who are like to use mailing list only, would be happy about that. I think that even some part of the community

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Thrall, Bryan
Art Tevs wrote on Monday, March 16, 2009 11:24 AM: Hi Roland, yes I can do some adjustments, however the current setup is the most one can take out of the current situtation, I think. Users are forced to write a real name. Email is sent as: From: Real Name osgfo...@tevs.eu or if user do

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Art Tevs
Thrall, Bryan wrote: It looks like the forum supports signatures; could you just assign a default signature based on the user's given Real Name and email? You can't force them to give their actual Real Name, but I imagine most people wouldn't lie on that, even if they don't use their Real

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Ed
I won't use a forum mainly because of the spam generated when I have used forums in the past... I know there are probably things in place now to prevent or reduce email harvesting from forums, but all the same, I won't use forums anymore... not so long as there an alternative. As for cryptic

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Ed
I won't use a forum mainly because of the spam generated when I have used forums in the past... I know there are probably things in place now to prevent or reduce email harvesting from forums, but all the same, I won't use forums anymore... not so long as there an alternative. As for cryptic

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Ed, On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Ed o...@celticblues.com wrote: I won't use a forum mainly because of the spam generated when I have used forums in the past... I know there are probably things in place now to prevent or reduce email harvesting from forums, but all the same, I won't

Re: [osg-users] Forum users rare uses signatures, which is a pain tracking who's who

2009-03-16 Thread Sukender
Hi all, And what about manually banning (temporarily) from the forum those who don't respect basic rules? That could be simple: 1. Warn the user if the real name isn't explicit enough 2. Ban until real name is changed (The user could still use the mailing list) I'm pretty sure people would not