Re: [OSList] Beware of Bad Bosses... Take it From the Dilbert Cartoon

2021-12-13 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
Yes thanks John! Michael, I want to ask about one element of your story, and propose that it makes a difference in human systems. Curious your thought about it! As an OST facilitator you are present for "the expanded time and space for the unfolding of selforganization." Another term for being

Re: [OSList] Beware of Bad Bosses... Take it From the Dilbert Cartoon

2021-12-13 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
Hi Michael. Yes that's an interesting framing thank you. I am partial to the "chaordic path" taught in the Art of Hosting. This short video with a group of trainers talks about control, order, and chaos, and the sweet spot of leadership found in the dance between order and chaos.

Re: [OSList] Beware of Bad Bosses... Take it From the Dilbert Cartoon

2021-12-13 Thread Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
Dear Jeff, all the best to you in 2022 and Merry Xmas. I wonder in which way the assumption "OST and other participatory methods are intended to remedy ..." is congruent with the assumption that OST is not intending to remedy any particular situation. As ost facilitator my assumption is that

Re: [OSList] Beware of Bad Bosses... Take it From the Dilbert Cartoon

2021-12-12 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
So yes, my question wasn't fully formed until now: I am fascinated that folks who are passionate about Open Space can be in differing "poles" of the "polarity" in the USA, and also be able to show how OS is a kind of guide to understanding their own view. Which leads me to wonder if good old OS

Re: [OSList] Beware of Bad Bosses... Take it From the Dilbert Cartoon

2021-12-12 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
Yes, it seems that the paradigm of authoritarian leadership is exactly what OST and other participatory methods are intended to remedy. The postwar work in social systems by folks like Kurt Levin and others were a response to the tragic origins of the second world war, along with the outdated

Re: [OSList] Beware of Bad Bosses... Take it From the Dilbert Cartoon

2021-12-12 Thread Marc C. Trudeau via OSList
Mark, check out Daniel Mezick’s A-1 Meeting, as a way to give the bosses a taste and help them test their own resolve. You could build the A-1 around the OST Principles and Law. Odds are, some of the bosses really are Open. Peace, Marc Marc Trudeau mobile 774-641-8302

[OSList] Beware of Bad Bosses... Take it From the Dilbert Cartoon

2021-12-12 Thread Mark Carmel via OSList
Greetings!! Bosses that SAY they are Open are perhaps ALL talk... THEREFORE, Beware of Bad Bosses. This is My New 1st Law of OST, unwritten and unspoken, of course. In my humble (or not so humble) opinion, All believers in and Facilitators of Open Space Technology must understand times have