Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Chris Green
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 07:59:43PM +0100, Marc dirix wrote: >Hi, >I've made an 1-wire interface for the current cost clamps. The current >cost clamp is specified 100A with 50mA accuracy. You can buy spare current >cost clamps for about 15 euro. The interface is a simple opamp+DS2450

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Daniel MacKay
Chris: The non 1-Wire ones that you can buy in the store are like this: http://centameter.co.nz/ ... if you want just the component for the DIY solution, google for "split core transformer". On 2014-02-09, at 09:29 , Chris Green wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 07:59:43PM +0100, Marc

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Daniel MacKay
Marc: > I've made an 1-wire interface for the current cost clamps. The current cost > clamp is specified 100A with 50mA accuracy. You can buy spare current cost > clamps for about 15 euro. The interface is a simple opamp+DS2450. On request > I'll send you the eagle schematic. Yes please! I th

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Marc dirix
Hi Chris, I think every reseller should be able to sell you one, because for their system you need to buy loose clamps if your connection is 3-fase. I've bought mine from bespaarbazaar.nl (obviously in the Netherlands). Amazon seemed to have sold them: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Current-Cost-Sensor-

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Silvano Gai
This is an interesting discussion on a similar topic http://community.ubnt.com/t5/mFi/Current-sensors-and-wiring-codes/td-p/464543 They recommend http://www.byramlabs.com/product_info.php/products_id/20748/product/Byram%20LaboratoriesBL-3%20Series%20BL-3-200-RV002%20Split-C

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
Google current transformer or ct if you want dc output, typically. > On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:26, Daniel MacKay wrote: > > Chris: > > The non 1-Wire ones that you can buy in the store are like this: > >http://centameter.co.nz/ > > ... if you want just the component for the DIY solution, goog

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
What do you need an op amp for? I use these things all over the place and plug them straight into adcs, as long as the internal resistance is sufficient > On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:59, Marc dirix wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I think every reseller should be able to sell you one, because for their >

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
I see: http://www.marcspages.co.uk/tech/ctcombin.htm I never put them in series/parallel. I use dedicated adc channels directly with no problems. I want to read each individually anyway. Colin > On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:59, Marc dirix wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I think every reseller should b

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Marc dirix
I use the opamp to integrate the half sine output of the clamp. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Colin Reese wrote: > What do you need an op amp for? I use these things all over the place and > plug them straight into adcs, as long as the internal resistance is > sufficient > > > > On Feb 9, 2

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
I see - you're buying AC/AC CTs. I just buy DC current or voltage output. Needn't mess with it. > On Feb 9, 2014, at 9:14, Marc dirix wrote: > > I use the opamp to integrate the half sine output of the clamp. > > > > >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Colin Reese wrote: >> What do you n

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Marc dirix
yes would make sense, but then again these clamps are much cheaper then any other I've found. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Colin Reese wrote: > I see - you're buying AC/AC CTs. I just buy DC current or voltage output. > Needn't mess with it. > > > > On Feb 9, 2014, at 9:14, Marc dirix wrote

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! Colin and company, I haven't found a reason to contribute to this gathering, until I remembered a rather unusual display of technology accomplished by a chap in a part of the US, here's his location: http://www.picobay.com/projects/2009/01/real-time-web-based-power-charting.html And that wa

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Michael Markstaller
I think the question is already answered and when I tell you some more from current-clamps from Europe now, this won't help you anyway ;) So, directly related another question: is anybody aware of AC-measurement with 1-Wire *directly* (isolated for sure) with True-RMS like based on ACS714 or simil

Re: [Owfs-developers] AC amps sensor

2014-02-09 Thread Alex Shepherd
Hi Guys, A bunch of interesting ideas and thoughts being raised here... I've spent a good few hours over the weekend looking at what is available in terms of Energy Meters with RS485 serial ports and there are a number on eBay that provide quite a bit of data. Search on eBay for "energy meter mod

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
Paul, How would you envision implementing a remote owserver over a WiFi module? Colin On 1/27/2014 10:54, Paul Alfille wrote: > Honestly, the easiest way is a remote owserver. That can join your > network seemlessly. You can even have a remote serial bus master and a > long serial line. > > A re

Re: [Owfs-developers] Owfs-developers Digest, Vol 93, Issue 11

2014-02-09 Thread Jim Robertson
Wow I thought I was the only energy monitor nerd around.  Apparently there is a lot of interest in this area.  I plan to use one wire for temp A/C control with a Rpie and have already built that circuit but have been also working on monitoring the AC meater.  for you EU folks there is a site whi

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-09 Thread Michael Markstaller
On 09.02.2014 22:13, Colin Reese wrote: > Paul, > > How would you envision implementing a remote owserver over a WiFi module? This is 100% easy and possible since many years, just take any openwrt-router and run owserver on it.. Works pretty fine 24x7. The other way around, low-power I'd more g

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
I want to run a microcontroller with a remote owserver or 1Wire devices. I don't want/need another linux box. A cheap AVR and WiFi unit like an XBee WiFi would be ideal. Is there not AVR code that would run owserver over a WiFi module? Where can I find docs on owexternal? I've seen mention of i

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
Like this: http://www.etherweather.com/ But actively developed and wireless. Colin On 2/9/2014 13:41, Michael Markstaller wrote: > > > On 09.02.2014 22:13, Colin Reese wrote: >> Paul, >> >> How would you envision implementing a remote owserver over a WiFi module? > This is 100% easy and possib

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-09 Thread Michael Markstaller
On 09.02.2014 22:48, Colin Reese wrote: > I want to run a microcontroller with a remote owserver or 1Wire devices. > I don't want/need another linux box. A cheap AVR and WiFi unit like an > XBee WiFi would be ideal. Nearly any TP-Link running OpenWRT is cheaper than the single XBee-Module? Not t

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-09 Thread Colin Reese
Well, I want a cheap, small, low-power, bullet-proof sensor node. I want to be able to read loads of them, preferably in a developed, extendable framework, from a central sensor gateway, at the moment an RPi-based control unit. Nothing seems to meet all of the criteria. Standard XBee would work

Re: [Owfs-developers] pseudo-bus serial bridge

2014-02-09 Thread Michael Markstaller
Well, if you want lowest power, small nodes I'd recommend to Google for Contiki/6lowpan first. Integration into owfs should be really easy.. Just need one GW. If you want low cost, existing HW and proved reliability, I guess your better off using a $20 OpenWRT-routers simply running owfs/owserver ;