RE: Expression Web

2013-09-16 Thread Nathan Chere
nce of the WTF WPF transition) I'd be unreservedly happier with VS2012. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 6:35 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Expression Web Really? I much prefer VS2012... On 1

RE: Expression Web

2013-09-16 Thread Stephen Price
** > Victoria Park, Western Australia > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Kean > *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 1:58 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* RE: Expression Web > >

RE: Expression Web

2013-09-16 Thread Ian Thomas
, September 16, 2013 1:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Expression Web VS 2012 Update 2 adds RTM support for WPF + SL. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:42 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Expression

RE: Expression Web

2013-09-15 Thread David Kean
VS 2012 Update 2 adds RTM support for WPF + SL. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:42 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Expression Web I've not heard anything that indicates yes, the true marke

Re: Expression Web

2013-09-15 Thread Scott Barnes
I've not heard anything that indicates yes, the true marker for this will be Nov when VS2013 RTW's (if that date is even still current) if after that its not released then doubtful it will leave that state. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ian T

RE: Expression Web

2013-09-15 Thread Ian Thomas
Is the Blend jumble still in a state of flux? At this page the following points to a link that is not available today - Additionally a Preview version of Blend for Visual Studio 2012 that supports Si

Re: Expression Web

2013-09-15 Thread Joseph Cooney
Interesting point of history - expression web used to be called.. Microsoft FrontPage. On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Scott Barnes wrote: > FYI: The Product Manager (just one) for Expression Web (Ed - previously > Adobe Dreamweaver) was one of the smarterst minds in devdiv and th

Re: Expression Web

2013-09-15 Thread Scott Barnes
FYI: The Product Manager (just one) for Expression Web (Ed - previously Adobe Dreamweaver) was one of the smarterst minds in devdiv and the team writing the code behind that product were also equally up to the smarts.. so for me I always wondered why so much great talent got mothballed... The

Re: Expression Web

2013-09-15 Thread Scott Barnes
prefer to code, they'd know about VS Express, VS, Webstorm, Eclipse, > Netbeans, Sublime Text, etc. > -- > From: Greg Keogh > Sent: 15/09/2013 6:04 PM > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: Expression Web > > It lost out due to Sharepoint Designer or what

RE: Expression Web

2013-09-15 Thread Sam Lai
who prefer to code, they'd know about VS Express, VS, Webstorm, Eclipse, Netbeans, Sublime Text, etc. -Original Message- From: "Greg Keogh" Sent: ‎15/‎09/‎2013 6:04 PM To: "ozDotNet" Subject: Re: Expression Web It lost out due to Sharepoint Designer or whatever t

Re: Expression Web

2013-09-15 Thread Greg Keogh
Designer or VS Express (I don't use either). The old FrontPage filled an important product hole I thought and I really liked it back in 97-98 when it arrived (at least it killed HotDog and similar crap). Then it quietly disappeared and turned up mutated as Expression Web. Now it's gone ag

Re: Expression Web

2013-09-14 Thread Scott Barnes
Expression Web was mothballed in 2009 .. Ed the ex Product Manager was packing his boxes around then when I walked into his Office and asked wtf was going on. That product has been put out to pasture for so long now i doubt anyone in Microsoft even realises its still being downloaded... It lost

Re: Expression Web

2013-09-14 Thread Stephen Price
Well they wouldn't be flogging the one they are killing off would they? :) I'm pretty sure Visual Studio 2012 is more than capable of maintaining web sites. The extra site level file management stuff that I think you are referring to (been a long time since I looked at expression web/d

Re: Expression Web

2013-09-14 Thread Greg Keogh
SP, I was mainly surprised that Microsoft are touting Visual Studio as a replacement for Expression Web, as they seem like tools designed for quite different purposes. Then I was wondering if VS has hidden capabilities that I should be aware of for web site authoring (I wasn't particularly lo

Re: Expression Web

2013-09-14 Thread Stephen Price
Greg, Expression Web 4 (according to the link in your email) will be available for download for free. From what you said Expression Web is the tool you use and like for managing websites. It's not going to stop working. Why not keep using it? At least until you figure out what other people us

Expression Web

2013-09-13 Thread Greg Keogh
tly being replaced by VS2012, and that's the bit that really surprised me. This is one hell of a shakeup. I used FrontPage for a few years after it came out, then I used Dreamweaver for several years, then I moved to Expression Web (and discovered it was FrontPage sneakily renamed) and I&#