RE: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread Stephen Price
Agreed! We need to make more noise about the lack of control. I was at Rottnest last week, had my laptop and saw there was an update for VS2017. Limited bandwidth compared to when at home, but hey 25gb should be enough right? Wrong. It got stuck trying to download the UWP SDK even though I

RE: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
You might want to bookmark this link (note, the dates are displayed in US format). Expect a major update every ~6 months if you are on Current Branch. If you have access to installed Enterprise Edition, you can move to Long Term Servicing Branch, which means you only get major updates every 2-3

RE: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread Greg Low
That’s exactly it. It’s like someone randomly just says “forget what you were planning to do the next day or so, you now need to start researching how to fix your machine”. Then doing that more than once per year. I thrive on change but that’s not reasonable. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low

Re: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread Tony McGee
Although there's plenty of room for improvements on scheduling when updates happen (e.g. "active hours" as currently designed isn't good enough IMHO), I don't see many complaints here about change or the frequency of updates. Complaints are quite rightly that the software was working before it

RE: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread Stephen Price
Totally agree. We need to make lots of noise and let them know. We all know first hand that the driving forces of software often puts stability lower down the list than new features. I think the downside of more frequent releases means less fear around releasing bugs. Because they can always

Re: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread Greg Keogh
I'm progressive and I say "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is". I welcome change and quicker turnaround for software and OSs. However, I don't welcome being told without warning what icons, colours, animation, names, styles, messages and conventions I must use by my merciless overlords. And

RE: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread Greg Low
Hey Steve, you have to be happy with change. That’s the nature of this industry. But it’s the lack of control over when that occurs is the problem, coupled with the fact that it routinely breaks things. That’s the issue. If it almost always worked and didn’t break things, no problems. Having

Re: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread David Burstin
>> If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change how you think of it. That is my new motto. Thanks :) On 13 December 2017 at 14:09, Stephen Price wrote: > What we are experiencing is not a new thing. Change is constant. Each new > release of

Re: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread Stephen Price
What we are experiencing is not a new thing. Change is constant. Each new release of software, for all things, comes with new bug fixes, new bugs and new features. Some we need some we don't. The pain we are feeling is a combination of lack of control combined with the frequency of these

Re: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread David Connors
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 at 10:08 Grant Maw wrote: > Never thought I'd ever see myself switching to Linux but I have to say > that I'm starting to look very, very hard at it, for all the reasons that > Mike and the Gregs have outlined above. I just wonder if I REALLY need to >

Re: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread mike smith
Apparently we need to avoid systemd - you get a windows like effect with it On 13 Dec. 2017 11:08, "Grant Maw" wrote: > Never thought I'd ever see myself switching to Linux but I have to say > that I'm starting to look very, very hard at it, for all the reasons that > Mike

Re: [OT] Big Windows 10 update

2017-12-12 Thread Grant Maw
Never thought I'd ever see myself switching to Linux but I have to say that I'm starting to look very, very hard at it, for all the reasons that Mike and the Gregs have outlined above. I just wonder if I REALLY need to learn a new OS at my age ... life is too short :) On 12 December 2017 at