Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together

2003-03-17 Thread Julie Garratt
Love and strength to you lieve, There are many of us thinking of Lars,his family and you at the moment and I think that there is good power in that. We send our blessings from afar and wish we could give you a hug, Julie. - Original Message - From: Lieve Huybrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[ozmidwifery] Midwife Journal

2003-03-17 Thread Darren Sunn
I think I may have what you are searching for: Try this linky: http://www.midwives.co.uk/default.asp?chid=445 regards Darren

Re: [ozmidwifery] Good OB

2003-03-17 Thread Darren Sunn
Megan, I have heard that Paul Bretz is a good ob and is into evidence based care with little or No intervention practises. He is in Mater Private. I have not personally met him but friends have advised me he is good. Set a meeting to sus him out. Darren -- This mailing list is sponsored by

Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together

2003-03-17 Thread Margie Perkins
Dear Lieve I have been wondering since your first very moving post about this baby and the family. Thank you for sharing his birth with us all. I hope his remaining time goes peacefully and lovingly. Love to you all Margie At Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:06:49 +0100, Lieve Huybrechts ([EMAIL

Re: [ozmidwifery] Good OB

2003-03-17 Thread Lynne Staff
Dear Lieve I have heard that babies choose their parents - this little man chose well. And his parents chose well their midwife - blessings to you and to this family - Original Message - From: Darren Sunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:40 PM

[ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Carole Claxton
I was flabbergasted when I read this, but don't know how true it is!?! What a dreadful thing to do to women without their knowledge!! Carole Medical schools alter pelvic exam policiesSome of the nation's leading medical schools have abandoned a little-known, decades-old practice of letting

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife Journal

2003-03-17 Thread Lois Wattis
Thanks Darren - interesting, but not the Practising Midwife. Cheers, Lois - Original Message - From: Darren Sunn To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwife Journal I think I may have what you are searching for:

Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife Journal

2003-03-17 Thread DebSlater
I've asked on the ukmid list about Practising Midwife, and someone said that they had managed to access the practisingmidwife.com previously, but, it was now not available. However, even when it was available, you were not able to access any of the articles online. Debbie Slater Perth, WA

Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together

2003-03-17 Thread Rhonda
Dear Leive, What a truely heartwarming story of bravery and love. I do hope that littleLars has some time to get to know his parents and to love and be loved by them. Every moment is such a blessing. I have a friend who has a child who

[ozmidwifery] Fw: bicornuate uterus

2003-03-17 Thread sarah.darling
- Original Message - From: sarah.darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:18 PM Subject: bicornuate uterus Apologies for cross-posting Wondering if anybody can direct me to information about the impliactions for labour, birth and the postnatal

Re: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Jo Dean Bainbridge
How do midwives learn how to preform pelvic exams? Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Carole Claxton To: CMOB Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:48 PM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:Young parent preparation

2003-03-17 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Linda, Echuca Regional Health has them and I have watched them some time ago but can't remember much about them. You could ring Mary Byrne, who does the teenage education classes on 03 54820221. She is there on Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons. Andrea Quanchi On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 09:17

Re: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Andrea Quanchi
I like to think they do it with the woman's permission. Imagine going to theatre for a procedure and finding out that while you were there half a dozen med students had a go at sicking their fingers in your vagina without your permission. I thought the word for that was RAPE Andrea Quanchi On

RE: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Ken Ward
We learn by doing the exam on women, with their consent, and awareness that we are students. In the days I did mid training they may not have been aware we were students. Lets face it, we all have to learn our craft, and internal exams can only be learnt by practical means. Like birthing

RE: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Judy Giesaitis
Dear Jo Midwives [or at least most of us] recognise the erkyness of having a ve. So we ask, ask, ask, when we are learning, when we are looking after a woman in labour and at all other times. I cannot imagine not asking permission for such a thing or ever supervising a student who did not

Re: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Rachel Smith
Student Midwives gain consent from the women, in most cases the supervising midwife would gain consent as the women often feel bad about saying no directly to the student. The woman is aware that the midwife is a student, aware that they are learning, usually aware whether they are beginning in

RE: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Sally Westbury
Just some language stuff. I really dont like the term pelvic examinations or even internal examinations.. it lessens the invasiveness of the procedure my vagina is highly private if you what to put your fingers in there there call it what it is a vaginal examination. When a doctor tells

Re: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Maternity Ward Mareeba Hospital
Student midwives learn pelvic exams by actually caring for the woman and then requesting to be allowed to follow an experienced midwives examination of the cervix with their own attempt. A negative answer is respected. Many women are happy to say yes. Cheers Judy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ozmidwifery] re ear infections

2003-03-17 Thread Victoria Couldwell
Dear Judy, About 6 months ago, my daughter (4 years old)was diagnosed with a mild-to-moderate hearing loss in both ears (due to fluidbehind ear drums scarring of). She could not hear me when I called her from downstairs or when I spoke to her in the car (she could notsee my face/mouth). The Ear

RE: [ozmidwifery] re ear infections

2003-03-17 Thread Judy Giesaitis
thankyou, great for you and your children Judy -Original Message-From: Victoria Couldwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2003 11:41 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re ear infections Dear Judy, About 6 months ago, my daughter (4

Re: [ozmidwifery] re ear infections

2003-03-17 Thread Lois Wattis
There was an article on Children's Health Channel that someone else posted recently, regarding cod liver oil and multivitamins being effective in reducing ear infections if given daily. Go to http://www.ivanhoe.com/channels/p_channelstory.cfm?storyid=5576 Cheers, Lois - Original

Re: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
AS others have said we learn by asking permission of the women. At Seattle Midwifery School all the women were given a letter of informed consent by the senoir midwife who was our preceptor. At the very beginning of their relationship with the midwife they could choose to have a student

[ozmidwifery] Community meeting

2003-03-17 Thread Darren Sunn
On the Weekend up here in Queensland we had a Community Cabinet Meeting with the Premier and other Ministers (including the Health Minister and her side kick Lindy Nelson-Carr) Our inspired Birth campaigner Deidrie Cullen organised a group of us to appear at the meeting where we held a

RE: [ozmidwifery] Community meeting

2003-03-17 Thread Julie Clarke
Hi Darren I agree with you that its ironic to petition the OBs in order for change. I believe that about 10 years ago or so in New Zealand Midwifery was facing a similar crisis to what Oz is facing today. The solution they found to be very successful was to encourage consumers of

Re: [ozmidwifery] Cord Clamping -

2003-03-17 Thread Michael Hall
Dear List folk, This is what I came online for! This and being able to write in for advice or direction to resources. This is great stuff - thanks Robin and thanks to all you strong midwives out there. It has been inspirational listening to all the encouragment going out to each other. Thanks

Re: [ozmidwifery] Hep B for newborns, att Sandra

2003-03-17 Thread Sandra J. Eales
Megan I am happy for them to reprint my email and thanks for the other info. I would like to know of the US study you mentioned that had reported the same experience. Sandra - Original Message - From: Larry Megan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18,