Hi Bec, Just reading the mail from a few days back and saw your request
for info on restless legs. Interestingly it is not just for pregnant
women and my husband suffers from it everynow and then. He treats it by
taking silicea gel. It cost a bit but you just take a teaspoon a day.
Works great
Thanks to the midwives/ students who have replied. I don't think I am
asking a question that is disrespectful to women or midwives. I have 2
of my own children and have welcomed the involvement of midiwifery
students in my births. I personally don't see VE's as a 'bad or
interventialist' but
Stacey: A cervix is long before it has started effacing: that's when it
feels almost like it does when non-pregnant: like a nose. First it shortens
and may feel like a loose mouth or like a tight mouth: it is still thick
but short it will become wafer thin in some women before much dilation
Dear Stacey and All
What Mary was saying is the same for me
In my expereince of women centred birth and understanding of birth in
non-medical holistic approach most women do not need any VEs infact a VE can
stop a labour.
A VE for a midwife should be like a thermometer used to confirm what you
I think that Stacey needs to learn ves because regardless of what we ideally
want for birth at present times ves are a major aspect in the care of women
in labour wards. I would rather a caring midwife do them than anyone else so
if you know how to do them then you can maintain your care without a
One of my strongest memories from my fourth son's birth was doing a VE on myself
whilst reclined on the toilet. I did it mainly because it was my last oppurtunity to
feel a dilating cervix. WOW it was amazing, but it was mine to feel.
My first son was born in hospital where I had a few VE's, I
Hi Stacy,
I'm a mid student too, I too have stuggled trying to
get my head around various concepts (eg difference b/w
legnth thickness).
After having many many midwives explain it in
different ways, the way that I understand it is that
legnth thickness go hand in hand. A long cervix is
a
There is a fantastic chapter in Ina May Gasgin's new book about vaginal
examinations. I would recommend that you find it and read. It really
give some great information and guidance about vaginal examinations.
Sally Westbury
Homebirth Midwife
It takes courage to remain a true advocate for
Yes, well said Megan. What a powerful imagine you've
described in my mind of you in labour with your 4th!
Thanks for sharing, Jen
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One of my strongest memories from my fourth son's
birth was doing a VE on myself whilst reclined on
the toilet. I did it mainly
VEs are like perineal suturing and rupturing of membranes. They are a tool in
the professional midwife's kit that should be used with caution, judgement,
humanity and great respect. They should only be practised by skillfull
practitioners who know the theory behind what they are doing, the
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