Re: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep

2005-10-04 Thread Safetsleep
jo also have a wee look at the 'medical facts page' on www.safetsleep.com and follow some of the prompts we have published studies from all over the world, whcih shows there is cause for significant concern chrs miriam - Original Message - From: jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep

2005-10-04 Thread Safetsleep
ps also have independent ( not mine) study showing concern re babies being put at 'bottom of the cot' copies available on request personally i have met 4 mums, 3of whom lost their babies and one (a dr. who nearly did) after placing thier wee babies 'feet to foot' of the cot.the eldest

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread Tanya Fleming
I am taken by surprised of this tooi teach the very same as you Karen. I also believe that the cord should be cut immediately before giving synto, to prevent passage of syntocinon into baby's circulationif cord is still pulsating, one would think this is possible as synto act

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread Susan Cudlipp
The reason given for hasty cord clamping AFTER (not before) administering synto is not to prevent synto entering baby's circulation, but to prevent over tranfusion due to the excessive contraction thus produced 'pushing' too much blood into baby due to squeezing the placenta. Synto

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread Denise Hynd
CompareNepean'soptions of care medical or nothingand intervention rates and outcomes toSt George which you can on the NSW Birth stats website Denise Hynd "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread Tanya Fleming
I totally understand what you are saying. But what about the ergot component of the syntometrine that is given in 3rd stage? I wonder what effect this has on babies? If ergot has the quick action it does on causing a sustained uterine contraction...it obviously enters the maternal

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread Belinda
I have a friend who has been a ipm for many years and she believes that babies are more likely to get jaundiced when the mother has had synto, it makes sense of they get that extra unneccessary boost of blood. Belinda -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread brendamanning
I always firmly believed that too, I'm not soo sure now but I am open to being educated !! Brenda - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread Andrea Quanchi
There are many reasons that influence whether a baby gets jaundiced or not Two of these are 1. prematurity ( of the liver as well as dates, some babies livers take ages to be efficient enough to clear the jaundice. 2. Not passing mec soon after birth. The longer the mec stays inside the

[ozmidwifery] oops

2005-10-04 Thread Jenny Cameron
Sorry about the cordclamping site, it is no longer. Here are a few interesting links. http://www.midwifeinfo.com/feature-cordclamping.php http://www.who.int/reproductive-health/publications/MSM_98_4/MSM_98_4_chapter4.en.html http://www.lotusbirth.com/doc/FEB2003Lotusbirth-191.htm

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread lisa chalmers
My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut until they have finished pulsing, babies seem to develop jaundice for longer..(that the usual standards) . That makes complete sense to me, since they get more blood than babes that had cords clamped and cut quickley. I'm sure I read

RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread Mary Murphy
Given that I have been doing physiological 3rd stage for 23 yrs, I feel I can add my bit to this theme. It has not been my observation that babies get more jaundiced if the cord is left unclamped. I rarely have a pathological jaundice and this is usually ABO and do not often have anything more

Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread brendamanning
I absolutely agree on the early feeding theory Andrea. Years ago Noble Park (?) Pvt Hosp (who I think either don't exist or don't do mid anymore) did a study (in 1990/1 maybe) on how initiating early breast feeding (with EBM or colostrum if no suckling happening) maintaining reg feeding

Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC booklet

2005-10-04 Thread Kim Stead
Me too. Kim. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks! ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 4/10/2005 10:02:02 a.m. To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC booklet Dear Jo, A CD would be valuable and ever reusable resource count me

RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread Nicole Carver
There are some who believe the higher levels of antioxidants caused by jaundice may be protective of babies, and mild jaundice 'may' be normal. Nicole. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of lisa chalmers Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:48 AM

RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

2005-10-04 Thread Megan Larry
My hospital born baby, induction by gels, 8hr labour, synto to birth placenta had jaundice. My 3 water births at home, 1 same length and 2 shorter labours, no intervention, placenta attached around 3 hours after birth, no jaundice. Too many variables to suggest its one cause. Off topic, did

Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC booklet

2005-10-04 Thread Kathy McCarthy-Bushby
Hi Jo, A copy of the vbac booklet on cd would be great. Thanks kathy - Original Message - From: Dean Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC booklet Hi to everyone who has requested a copy of the