RE: [ozmidwifery] question

2005-11-20 Thread B G
Title: Message Jenny, Are you referring to partial pressure gradients of O2 and CO2? Simultaneously - when there is no blood flow, placenta to baby cord has stopped pulsating therefore no pressure gradient to push oxygen transfer. Once the baby isexposed to room environment a breath is

RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!

2005-11-20 Thread Cheryl LHK
Yes, she can turn up to any public hospital with midwifery services and not be turned away. Tell her to have a copy of antenatal paperwork she has (if she has it!!) and the midwives at the hospital can ring her orginal booking hospital and get any records/pathology faxed over - or at least

RE: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

2005-11-20 Thread Cheryl LHK
Just a query? What are the obst's complaints based on - the same 3 mothers complaints? No doubt they were tired and wanted a bit of rest!! Welcome to motherhood. From: islips [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject:

[ozmidwifery] Baby-Catching in OZ

2005-11-20 Thread npro22
Hello all...sorry to intrude on your local midwifery list, but I am wondering if any of you can help me. I am a midwife from Chicago and will be coming to Sydney for the week of Nov. 28 - Dec. 3.Does anyone work in a facility that might allow me to follow you for a few hours or a day to see

[ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC

2005-11-20 Thread Andrea Robertson
This is in today's Sydney Morning Herald. No doubt this report will trigger furious debate (as it should) but let's try an get the focus on the first caesarean, not the possible risks with VBAC. These figures for first caesareans are shocking - higher that the USA!

Re: [ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC

2005-11-20 Thread Helen and Graham
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC

2005-11-20 Thread leanne wynne
Hi All, The full article is available at: www.mja.com.au/public/issues/183_10_211105/tay10392_fm.html The important point is in their conclusion - Caesarean section in a first pregnancy confers additional risks on the second pregnancy, primarily associated with labour. These should be

Re: [ozmidwifery] question - lodging complaints

2005-11-20 Thread brendamanning
Jo, You write really well with 3D perspective, Congratulations, few people have that vision, most see in 1D only ! Seeing everybody's perspective isn't easy it's all so subjective. Yet... you know; I am a MW of 25 years am about to give it all away because I feel that we are

Re: [ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC

2005-11-20 Thread Sonja Barry
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Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

2005-11-20 Thread Sonja Barry
What are they complaining about? The only ones who I think could complain are those very few women giving their baby up for adoption. Don't these women want their babies? I am very confused. I would also bet they are the ones begging for an induction from about 30weeks. However, Ithought

Re: [ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC

2005-11-20 Thread islips
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Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

2005-11-20 Thread islips
The obs dont like the idea of mucousy babies staying in the rooms with mums. However in most cases where the woman has had a c/s we get the fathers to stay the night to help out. There were other issues such as unwell mums etc. The women who complained were all multis and basic reason was that

Re: [ozmidwifery] ossification?

2005-11-20 Thread Robyn Dempsey
Hello Janet The babies head does not 'ossify'! Just ask any chiropractor...they are still soft and able to be manipulated for ages. I've never heard such a lot of rubbish. If you think about it, the fontanelles don't close for 6-18months, to allow for brain growth. I think this Ob, is

RE: [ozmidwifery] question - lodging complaints

2005-11-20 Thread Mary Murphy
Re the previous messages: I totally agree with you that Seeing everybody's perspective isn't easy it's all so subjective. Birth is a continuum of the rest of our life is something I quote to many clients prenatally. I often think about the statistic that at least 1 in 4 girls have been sexually

Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

2005-11-20 Thread brendamanning
I work some night duty in a small unit if mothers ask me to 'mind' their babies take them back for feeds overnight then I do, willingly. I'm heavily into nurturing women, odd eh ?? The Mums know what they want, if they need to sleep, why would I say no ? I am being paid to stay awake care

Re: [ozmidwifery] ossification?

2005-11-20 Thread Janet Fraser
Robyn that's exactly what I think! But where is it written so it can be given as proof to mamas who don't know this stuff? I can't find anything : ( J - Original Message - From: Robyn Dempsey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:17

Re: [ozmidwifery] Another blow for VBAC

2005-11-20 Thread Janet Fraser
Tbh I don't really see this as another blow. VBAC is pretty much ruled out in most mainstream arenas so the only way is up from there ; ) It will happen, it just won't happen overnight LOL. J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or

Re: [ozmidwifery] question - lodging complaints

2005-11-20 Thread brendamanning
MM. You have a gift for going straight to the essence of the issue !! You say what I know to be true but think it's just me that's seeing it this way ! Thank you. Birth is a continuum of the rest of our life is something I quote to many clients prenatally. I often think about the statistic

Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

2005-11-20 Thread suzi and brett
Bit harsh Sonja...i dont believe the great and growing practice of rooming in should completely eclipse midwives taking care of the baby for a couple of hours while the woman gets some sleep. Many women have missed 2-3 nights sleep and have metaphorically walked up agiant mountain or run a

Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

2005-11-20 Thread Janet Fraser
Speaking as an AP utopian, I'd love to see cosleeping in hospitals the norm with real beds not those "paddlepop on stilts" pretend beds. That way mamas could rest, keep their baby close, catch up on any skin-on-skin they've missed and actually learn valuable parenting skills and safe

RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!

2005-11-20 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
Thanks everyone for your thoughts and replies, it was a huge shock to me but I guess, sadly, that many of you are well used to this. I haven't heard from the woman since Saturday so chances are she's gone into labour. I pray it all went as well as she hoped. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director,

RE: [ozmidwifery] ossification?

2005-11-20 Thread Megan Larry
My Mum was induced for 3 babies 40 years ago for that rubbish,(head won't mould, baby too big, blah, blah, blah)some things don't change. Contact the Osteopathic Association for some written proof, I'm sure they will have something for you. http://www.osteopathic.com.au/index.htm good luck

Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

2005-11-20 Thread Cheryl LHK
Brenda - I'm with you. We do very similar as you have described below and make every effort to support Mum as well as baby. A few solid hours can make all the difference. Yet, when I was an inpatient in the hosp where I work; I was the primep that let the others (all my workmates over the

Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

2005-11-20 Thread Jenny Cameron
Good for you Brenda. Mums don't get enough nurturing. Jenny Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACM President NT branch ACMI PO Box 1465 Howard Springs NT 0835 08 8983 1926 0419 528 717 - Original Message - From: brendamanning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday,

[ozmidwifery] Westmead, Sydney

2005-11-20 Thread Nicola Morley
Does anyone know the current options for delivering at Westmead? I am rather frustrated with my brother's girlfriend's GP who seems to be handling her unexpected pregnancy rather haphazardly. She is only 21, and knows nothing, the baby being unplanned. He told her the 12 weeks NT u/s was