Re: [ozmidwifery] Let baby decide birth date

2005-12-27 Thread Justine Caines
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Let baby decide birth date Dear Julie and All I love it. I also saw a piece from a vet many moons ago on the huge dangers of interfering with the physiological birthing processes For Mares, with them citing that owners should stay well away leaving the Mare to do what

Re: [ozmidwifery] Let baby decide birth date

2005-12-27 Thread Jo Bourne
A friend of mine is a vet and we had a very similar discussion not that long ago about dogs and the iniation of labour and a few other things. I remember laughing at her and saying so if vets know all this about dogs why don't Drs know it about humans, we can't be that different! At 4:37 PM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Let baby decide birth date

2005-12-27 Thread brendamanning
A huge number of women demand IOL from 37/40 onwards, like you Janet,(btw your views make perfect sense to me) I despair of how how to get the message across that the 'process' of birth will happen when all the participants are ready ie the baby, the mothers mind her body. Sometimes in clinic

Re: [ozmidwifery] Let baby decide birth date

2005-12-27 Thread jesse/jayne
The rate of c-sect for dogs has also sky rocketed :) It's not only horses' birthing but ask any farmer/breeder of cows/sheep/horses or I guess any mammal for that fact about the shortcomings of an animal baby that is denied colostrum for any reason. Why do humans think they are any different?

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2005-12-27 Thread sharon
well said julie. over the past few weeks i have been in labour ward with many women induced and all of them have lead to a cascade of intervention culminating in LSCS. The woman i was with the last shift, for example, ended up with a trial of forceps in theatre! why oh why do the powers that

Re: [ozmidwifery] Let baby decide birth date

2005-12-27 Thread Jo Bourne
The thing with dogs' c/s rate skyrocketing though is that is more often going to be the owners meddling with the natural process than the vets. The vets generally don't get involved until after things have gone wrong. Even then I believe my vet generally tries leaving the bitch alone in a dark

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2005-12-27 Thread Dean Jo
Title: Message When will we learn? When ONE peice of selective research shows that still birth rates are lower in the 39th week and suddenly all the obs are saying that ALL women should be induced at 39 to save more babies.and no one argues it!Scaremongering and manipulation of