RE: [ozmidwifery] Backward step

2006-10-04 Thread Christine Holliday
I understand why people refer to the Bachelor of Midwifery as a direct entry course but I wish we could learn to stop doing this.  If we continue it still means we are measuring midwifery against nursing or still referring to nursing, we never see Registered Nurses referred to as direct

Re: [ozmidwifery] Backward step

2006-10-04 Thread Sonja Barry
I however have found that many midwives who have worked as an RN prior to being a midwife often see women as sick and need saving and intervention to birth their babies. I have found that most who go straight from their bachelor of nursing into midwifery without a year of two of nursing are

Re: [ozmidwifery] Backward step

2006-10-04 Thread Sonja Barry
I however have found that many midwives who have worked as an RN prior to being a midwife often see women as sick and need saving and intervention to birth their babies. I have found that most who go straight from their bachelor of nursing into midwifery without a year of two of nursing are

RE: [ozmidwifery] Backward step

2006-10-04 Thread Tania Smallwood
Hi Chrisine, Im with you on this one completely, but I wonder if some of the confusion and difficulty in defining things is because there is also a Post-grad Bachelor of Midwifery here in Adelaide? Essentially you are either an undergrad doing the three year full time BMid, or a

Re: [ozmidwifery] DO SOMETHING!

2006-10-04 Thread Mike Lindsay Kennedy
I agree with the do something philosophy. The government in NZ didn't wake up one day and decide oh i think I will change the entire obstetric system. Midwives and women (and men ;) created the climate for change and the government eventually got the message. The midwives in this unit could: 1

[ozmidwifery] article FYI

2006-10-04 Thread leanne wynne
Stress During Pregnancy Linked to Smaller Babies WEDNESDAY, Sept. 27 (HealthDay News) -- Stressed-out pregnant women may carry smaller-than-average babies, a new study finds. In findings published in the September-October issue of Psychosomatic Medicine, researchers from the University of

Re: [ozmidwifery] Backward step

2006-10-04 Thread Mike Lindsay Kennedy
Good point, I guess the problem is there is only one route to nursing but two to Mid at the moment. When we had a mix of hospital trained and Uni trained nurses the issues were the same. It took a long t6ime to accept Uni trained nurses which is ofcourse the norm now. Mid will be the same,

RE: [ozmidwifery] article FYI

2006-10-04 Thread Angela Rayner
Hi Leanne Thanks for your posting. These research findings sit very well with me. I'm not sure if you have heard of the author Ellen White, but she has written much on many subjects, and as a midwife I have been very interested in her comments on prenatal influences. She says that where

RE: [ozmidwifery] Backward step

2006-10-04 Thread sharon
Iam a bachelor of midwifery graduate who has also done the rn degree as a top up as I also want to do other things but my focus is mainly midwifery and loving it. As far as I can see experience is what we gain when we work in our chosen field. knowledge we may learn but the real learning

RE: [ozmidwifery] Backward step

2006-10-04 Thread B G
Title: Message Sonja, I agree having preceptored a newly graduated RN who was accepted to do her midwifery without any post grad work as a nurse. After her initial culture shock of not being one to one in the post natal ward which they have had as student nurses.She had an extreme learning