Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-27 Thread Denise Hynd
e 26, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi Robyn If it weren't for the distance - I'd be in boots and all but Warragul is about 1hr 15 from home - a little too far I think. I live in hope that one day I'

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems with new models

2005-06-26 Thread Kim Stead
Wellsaid Deborah. ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 16/06/2005 10:54:58 a.m. To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Problems with new models Hi All, This is my first post, I was drawn toyour discussion about Caseload Midwifery

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-26 Thread Kim Stead
done to all of you already living this dream and those of you who have set up such programs!!! Kiwi Kim ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 12/06/2005 7:27:38 p.m. To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-23 Thread Kim Stead
rambling! Hoping you find some interest soon! Kiwi Kim ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 21/06/2005 1:26:32 p.m. To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Dear Carol, Congratulations on your and your

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-20 Thread Alan Rooney
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Carol Van LochemSent: Sunday, 12 June 2005 5:39 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi all, I have posted here from time to time, but mostly I'm a lurker. I work in a team midwifery model at Warragul, where

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-20 Thread Dr Barbara Vernon
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Hi all, I have posted here from time to time, but mostly I'm a lurker. I work in a team midwifery model at Warragul, where we have lots of midwives who believe in continuity of care, support the women as central

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-17 Thread Mary Doyle
- From: Dr Barbara Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Dear Mary Congratulations on your funding. Whereabouts is your service? The College of Midwives would be happy to provide

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-16 Thread Dr Barbara Vernon
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Dear Andrea and others, We too have received funding for a great continuity of care model, despite small numbers of women. Negativity abounds however and many of our current midwives however

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-16 Thread Denise Hynd
15, 2005 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi Denise, No I haven't spoken to Ryde. Are they in W.A.? Warragul is 1 hour East of Melbourne. It is beautiful dairy country with rolling hills. It is 1 hour from the beach 1 hour from Mount Baw Baw if

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models - perineal suturing

2005-06-15 Thread Andrea Bilcliff
Like Andrea Q, I have also attended several workshops (and will continue to) but have never had the opportunity to suture. There just hasn't been the need either. I too discuss this with the women antenatally. I explain that if there is a tear that is small sits together well, it will most

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models - perineal suturing

2005-06-15 Thread Helen and Graham
Message - From: Andrea Bilcliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models - perineal suturing Like Andrea Q, I have also attended several workshops (and will continue to) but have never had

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-15 Thread Melanie Jane Dunstan
Bilcliff To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi Carol, I find this very sad too. You are in the unique wonderful position of having both the funding obstetric support. What a pity

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models - perineal suturing

2005-06-15 Thread Sally Westbury
I do suturing that I feel comfortable with. In the past when I have not felt comfortable then I have asked a friendly GP/obs to help the women and they have. Love Sally -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-15 Thread Mary Doyle
to go, and 8 hour shifts in caring for women are long gone! Mary Doyle Alpine Health - Original Message - From: Melanie Jane Dunstan To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models HI

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models - perineal suturing

2005-06-15 Thread Andrea Quanchi
that when it is midwives negotiating with doctors the rules change. Thanks again for your thoughts Helen - Original Message - From: Andrea Bilcliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-15 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Hi Denise, No I haven't spoken to Ryde. Are they in W.A.? Warragul is 1 hour East of Melbourne. It is beautiful dairy country with rolling hills. It is 1 hour from the beach 1 hour from Mount Baw Baw if you're into skiing. Doesn't it just want to make you live here?;)) CarolFrom: "Denise Hynd"

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-15 Thread Carol Van Lochem
oo?Sending you some cyberhugs as I can imagine how frustrating this is for you Carol,Andrea Bilcliff - Original Message - From: Carol Van Lochem To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi all, I have posted here

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-15 Thread Melanie Jane Dunstan
Mary can please email me off the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks - Original Message - From: Mary Doyle To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Dear Andrea

[ozmidwifery] Problems with new models

2005-06-15 Thread Deborah Fox
Hi All, This is my first post, I was drawn toyour discussion about Caseload Midwifery via the BMid Student Collective website.I am a 2nd year B.Mid (direct entry) student at ACU in Melbourne. I amONLY interested in working caseload and I know I can speak for a number of my student

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-14 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Hi Andrea, The reason we have this model is because there were only 2 of us willing to do straight case load. I thought that as midwives began to develop a relationship with thier named women that they would be happier with being called in...this is not the case for everyone though it seems. I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-14 Thread Andrea Quanchi
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:48:25 +1000 Maybe you need to re look at your definition of continuity, It appears to me that what you are trying to sell to people is a type of team midwifery that you have modified to your own

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-14 Thread Mary Murphy
Title: Message 60 women is not feasible at all! As an experienced caseloader that would take an enormous effort and would not be sustainable. A midwife on another list who has also been discussing this theme wrote: Part of the reason for burn out however, is due to hospital managements

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-14 Thread Denise Hynd
women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled." — Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Carol Van Lochem To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-14 Thread Andrea Bilcliff
? Sending you some cyberhugs as I can imagine how frustrating this is for you Carol, Andrea Bilcliff - Original Message - From: Carol Van Lochem To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-14 Thread sally williams
Message - *From:* Jackie Doolan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:54 AM *Subject:* RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Carol, I am wondering how

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-14 Thread Meaghan Moon
I agree with Mary that 60 women per month is not feasible as a caseload. I am also experienced working in this model. Here in Manitoba we are expected to carry at least 30 women per year. This lower number was set to compensate for the fact that we are to target women who might most benefit

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-14 Thread Sally Westbury
I have read that around 40 is reasonable caseload. But if there is a lot of traveling in the particular area then it needs to be less. I think that 30-34 is probably about right for me with a mix of local women and women who may be 30-40 minutes away. I do almost all antenatal visits at the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models - perineal suturing

2005-06-14 Thread Helen and Graham
everyone is up to speed. Interested in your thoughts on the subject. Helen Cahill - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models I have read

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models - perineal suturing

2005-06-14 Thread Andrea Quanchi
in the mean time until everyone is up to speed. Interested in your thoughts on the subject. Helen Cahill - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-13 Thread Jackie Doolan
: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi all, I have posted here from time to time, but mostly I'm a lurker. I work in a team midwifery model at Warragul, where we have lots of midwives who believe in continuity of care, support the women as central

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-13 Thread sally williams
Title: Message The ANF specifies 40-45 woman only for a 'caseload'. Sally - Original Message - From: Jackie Doolan To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:54 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Carol, I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-13 Thread Jennifairy
- *From:* Jackie Doolan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:54 AM *Subject:* RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Carol, I am wondering how feasible a caseload is 60 women

[ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-12 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Hi all, I have posted here from time to time, but mostly I'm a lurker. I work in a team midwifery model at Warragul, where we have lots of midwives who believe in continuity of care, support the women as central to the whole prossess and have a supportive obstetrician to back us up. Our problem is

FW: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-12 Thread Robyn Thompson
: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi all, I have posted here from time to time, but mostly I'm a lurker. I work in a team midwifery model at Warragul, where we have lots of midwives who believe in continuity of care, support the women as central to the whole prossess and have

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-12 Thread Mary Murphy
@acegraphics.com.au Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi Kim We havent spoken for a while, when I read this message from Carol, I immediately thought of you. Are you interested? Carol it really is sad that midwives see being on-call a problem. Being on-call is much better than

RE: FW: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-12 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Hello Robyn Mary, Thanks for your responses. Prior to working on the team I provided one-to-one care for vbac women for a couple of years. I went on-call from 38 weeks until whenever they gave birth. At first I found it hard to relax when I knew someone was due soon. However I was fortunate in

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-12 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Maybe you need to re look at your definition of continuity, It appears to me that what you are trying to sell to people is a type of team midwifery that you have modified to your own needs and as you are finding out team midwifery is not as easy to sell. The best part about true caseloading