RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2006-05-19 Thread Mary Murphy
I would guess that Midwifery Led Care has the highest % for natural childbirth. The CMP in WA has very high rates of normal births but the numbers are very small (150 clients PA) so cannot be extrapolated to the wider population. Re oxytocics, it is difficult to say the number on our program

RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2006-05-18 Thread Mary Murphy
Surely if they are (natural, normal, unintervened) it means they don't' need medical assistance? What is the real question? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 7:10 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au

RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2006-05-18 Thread Dean Jo
What she is asking is how many women actually get to birth without interventions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:47 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2006-05-18 Thread Stephen Felicity
: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth What she is asking is how many women actually get to birth without interventions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:47 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE

RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2006-05-18 Thread Jo Bourne
] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:47 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Surely if they are (natural, normal, unintervened) it means they don't' need medical assistance? What is the real question?  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2006-05-18 Thread Stephen Felicity
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Does the WHO have recommendations on the percentage of women that are likely need help? At 10:53 AM +0930 19/5/06, Dean Jo wrote: What she is asking is how many women actually get to birth without interventions

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2006-05-18 Thread Andrea Robertson
The WHO recommend that the Caesarean rate should be no more than 10% in a population of healthy women (that is no, pre-existing medical conditions etc). They also recommend that inductions should be no more than 20%. Their assessment is that 80% of women can have a perfectly normal

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2004-03-16 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 16/03/04 12:53:10 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not sure I know what is meant by 'natural birth' since it is totally embedded in cultural practices. Who has a reliable definition for this that is NOT biomedically oriented? Trish Hi Trish and

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2004-03-15 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Yes, we can get bogged down in semantics when discussing what is meant by natural birth. What I mean is clear to me and that is what was, I believe, envisaged by the early proponents of natural birth is women birthing under their own power without pharmacological pain relief or obstetric

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2004-03-15 Thread Trish David
Yes, Marilyn, my reading of what you meant was just that, but even the narrowest biomedical definition of no intervention (including analgesia) fails to be sensitive to the taken-for-granted and therefore unseen aspects of culture. For example, the psychological and spiritual advantages of women

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2004-03-15 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
ent, vegetarianism, etc..) and I know there is a counterpointand I don't know what it is. I do think however that this is a huge philosophical conundrum at least for me. Carolyn, Help!! my mind is boggling marilyn - Original Message - From: "Trish David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2004-03-15 Thread Trish David
down this path before (on other issues: the environment, vegetarianism, etc..) and I know there is a counterpoint and I don't know what it is. I do think however that this is a huge philosophical conundrum at least for me. Carolyn, Help!!my mind is bogglingmarilyn----- Original Message -From:

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2002-09-02 Thread Rosemary Wayne Weckert
: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Rosemary, What is happening at Alukura these days. Is this still a functioning birthing place for women? I’m dreaming of coming to Alice Springs. In peace and joy Sally Westbury

RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2002-09-01 Thread Vicki Chan
Title: Message Hi Rosemary... good to hear what you are up to. Fantastic! Already a year since I was in Alice! Have to stay longer next time round! Love, Vicki xox -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rosemary Wayne

RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2002-08-31 Thread Sally Westbury
Rosemary, What is happening at Alukura these days. Is this still a functioning birthing place for women? Im dreaming of coming to Alice Springs. In peace and joy Sally Westbury

Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2002-08-30 Thread Mary Murphy
Hi Rosemary, I read your post with interest. Congratulations on your initiative! I want to tell you that you can practice as an independant midwife without the ACMI accreditation. I realise that you would like to do it with the ACMI Certificate of Accreditation, but you don't have to. Read